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Thoughts on a site overhaul?
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 4 weeks ago
Aberdeenshire |
Who else would like to see a bit of an overhaul with fab? Basically nothing has changed in decades! We started this in site feedback forum but figured we’d like to see others opinions so reposted here!
Some things we’d like to see:
NATIVE APP:
Make the site a native app to allow better messaging, photo uploads, notifications and all sorts of other benefits. Keep it available on web too though!
COUPLES PROFILES:
Allow a couples profile to be made of two solo profiles (link them) for those that also play solo or are looking for different things. Also in messages, sign off the message with who sent it from the couple (like any other messaging service)
MESSAGES:
Overhaul this totally. Make it an app (the whole site) that still works on a computer but allows better messaging. Allow groups, notifications, tagging, emoji (real ones not the limited number of bb ones we have now).
ALSO MESSAGES:
Allow us to tap the last contact message at the top of a profile to go directly into that thread so we don’t have control through hundreds of messages to find it!
That’s a start, there’s more we’d like to see too but would love to hear other’s feedback? |
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Having filters on your photo gallery like messages so you can choose who views them (block males, age ranges, distance etc) and you can opt in or out of latest photos (or ideally linked to the above) so only your chosen audience can see them via this feature. |
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By *avinaTVTV/TS 4 weeks ago
Transsexual Transylvania |
Not to pour cold water, but as a developer, the work involved in converting what's almost definitely an old legacy site to an app is huge. Then you have to maintain two codebases if you still keep the html website going. It's resource intensive and a lot of work.
I don't think they have the staff or inclination to do that. |
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By *eliusMan 4 weeks ago
Henlow |
"Not to pour cold water, but as a developer, the work involved in converting what's almost definitely an old legacy site to an app is huge. Then you have to maintain two codebases if you still keep the html website going. It's resource intensive and a lot of work.
I don't think they have the staff or inclination to do that. "
Doesn’t HTML5 sort of cover that, in terms of app and website… I do remember dabbling with ‘make your own app’ apps and they looked like an app but could be accessed by a browser… presumably the tech has moved on since then |
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By *abluesbabyMan 4 weeks ago
Gibraltar/Cheshire/London |
GROUP PROFILES
Asked for and suggested by many over the years but Fab has never seemed interested.
At the moment Groups who organise and attend gangbangs etc have to work via a solo profile (like I/we do with this one) or they often have to resort to using a MM Couple one which can lead to confusion for those seeking Bi and/or Gay male couples. |
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By *avinaTVTV/TS 4 weeks ago
Transsexual Transylvania |
"Not to pour cold water, but as a developer, the work involved in converting what's almost definitely an old legacy site to an app is huge. Then you have to maintain two codebases if you still keep the html website going. It's resource intensive and a lot of work.
I don't think they have the staff or inclination to do that.
Doesn’t HTML5 sort of cover that, in terms of app and website… I do remember dabbling with ‘make your own app’ apps and they looked like an app but could be accessed by a browser… presumably the tech has moved on since then"
It depends on whether you're going to write a native app (compiled code that downloads to the phone and runs on it - and you have to maintain two separate distros for Ios and Android) or a hybrid that basically leverages the phone's browser to look like an app, but sort of actually be a webpage. HTML5 is still just HTML. I imagine this is the path they'd probably go down, in which case it wouldn't be radically different to what they do now. Even so, to overhaul the site, introduce snazzy new features, and make it look modern, is a huge job (my current company is struggling with this at the moment). Fab will need additional developers on top of what they already have for maintenance and ongoing development (such as it is). That's a big cost for a redevelopment that will have to be QA'ed and tested.
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"Not to pour cold water, but as a developer, the work involved in converting what's almost definitely an old legacy site to an app is huge. Then you have to maintain two codebases if you still keep the html website going. It's resource intensive and a lot of work.
I don't think they have the staff or inclination to do that. "
This ^^^
The reason FAB is so cheap is because it has limited development on an old school platform.
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By *ormladMan 4 weeks ago
ayr / glasgow |
I agree with the op. I would like to add if there is a filter for meet today that would be great. Presently I have to go through pages after pages to see who has put on their meet today status close by to me |
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The whole of it ain’t broke don’t fix it mentality is quite limited how do you think other well used web apps would be if they used that approach as well?
Continuous development is done all over the place taking in to account the users feedback and also keeping up with the latest web developments and technology something which fan doesn’t do |
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Every time I describe fabswingers to new people I tell them the site literally looks like a 90s website. I've been on and off fab for years now and the subject being removed is the only change i've really noticed, and it's a monumentally bad one.
Like I said, I've been on and off here for 5-8 years now and I repeatedly have to switch between different tabs to look for something (maybe I'm just stupid though). The UI is really bad.
A genuine native app would be a good idea rather than bookmarking and adding to home screen, I totally agree.
It's so easy for men to accidentally end up harassing people. Yes it warns you when you've sent a message two months ago to the person, but that might have been a Hello message that they didn't see, or it might have been the 6th message i've sent to them with no reply. Show me my previous message history with them at the same time as the warning display comes up, so that I know I won't be harassing them.
Whilst I'm glad fabswingers hasn't went the way of a lot of actual dating sites and basically made men have to pay to message womens profiles, I would like some kind of extra filtering in place, so that women don't get inundated with messages. Women would not feel so overwhelmed with messages and men would get more replies, so both sides would be happier.
Honestly the website just looks like a jumbled mess and I don't know why paid members like me keep pumping money into the site when nothing's changing. Guess the joke's on us in the end.
There's other things I don't like such as the excessive statuses asking for drugs/snow, people expecting paid fun (this is not the site for that), and the racism I get on here constantly. I'm aware we can report all of the above but it often takes far too long and the same people make multiple accounts.
I don't mean to be so critical and there's lots about fab that I like but I generally consider this a somewhat dodgy site even though there is a lot of gold on here. I've met some amazing people but the site absolutely does need an overhaul. |
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 4 weeks ago
Aberdeenshire |
Agreed, there will come a point where another app overcomes fab’s best feature. Which is its name!
I’d also like to add that moving threads from one forum to another is rather annoying by admin.
This thread is a “people opinion” thread, so why has it been moved to fab feedback thread that no one looks at? I can only assume that the admins want as little talk of updates as possible? |
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ALSO MESSAGES:
Allow us to tap the last contact message at the top of a profile to go directly into that thread so we don’t have control through hundreds of messages to find it!"
This would be brilliant |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
Newcastle |
I'm happy as it is and have been for 10 years as the saying goes if it's not broken why not just leave it alone and any little adjustments greatly appreciated. IE example the site made improvements removing the header and not many people liked it but many did myself included. Rather than complaining is there anything that you like at all  |
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I agree that the removal of subject is terrible. It makes understanding what message relates to different subjects impossible. One of my best friends has left fab. He used to organise several events and saud the changes have made arranging these different events impossible. |
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The solution to no harassing people is in yur hands, and easy. When I send a message, I use the Notes to record it and the date. If my message is unread for a while, I might message again AND add the new date. If they delete my message, I record DELETED in my notes.
Not foolproof, but almost! |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"I agree that the removal of subject is terrible. It makes understanding what message relates to different subjects impossible. One of my best friends has left fab. He used to organise several events and saud the changes have made arranging these different events impossible. "
Hiya
A user can still type at the top similar to the header then drop down few spaces to type the message  |
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When you click on a person's profile and see that you've messaged previously - have a feature that allows you to view that mail history
A woman's only section - profile set up determines access - that can be used for health, support, other
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By (user no longer on site) 4 weeks ago
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"Agreed, there will come a point where another app overcomes fab’s best feature. Which is its name!
I’d also like to add that moving threads from one forum to another is rather annoying by admin.
This thread is a “people opinion” thread, so why has it been moved to fab feedback thread that no one looks at? I can only assume that the admins want as little talk of updates as possible?"
It's feedback on Fab so the fab feedback forum is appropriate |
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 4 weeks ago
Aberdeenshire |
"I think it would be a great feature if you could comment on photos, almost Facebook style
This has been brought up many times and most people, me included, say they wouldn't want it.
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Of course some may want it, so make it opt in? Caters for all! |
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 4 weeks ago
Aberdeenshire |
"I agree that the removal of subject is terrible. It makes understanding what message relates to different subjects impossible. One of my best friends has left fab. He used to organise several events and saud the changes have made arranging these different events impossible.
Hiya
A user can still type at the top similar to the header then drop down few spaces to type the message "
Again, why not just make it optional? That caters for everyone! |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"I agree that the removal of subject is terrible. It makes understanding what message relates to different subjects impossible. One of my best friends has left fab. He used to organise several events and saud the changes have made arranging these different events impossible.
Hiya
A user can still type at the top similar to the header then drop down few spaces to type the message
Again, why not just make it optional? That caters for everyone!"
As you've nicely put it does this include the site development or staff involved, must be a valid reason why it's happened |
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 4 weeks ago
Aberdeenshire |
"I agree that the removal of subject is terrible. It makes understanding what message relates to different subjects impossible. One of my best friends has left fab. He used to organise several events and saud the changes have made arranging these different events impossible.
Hiya
A user can still type at the top similar to the header then drop down few spaces to type the message
Again, why not just make it optional? That caters for everyone!
As you've nicely put it does this include the site development or staff involved, must be a valid reason why it's happened "
It’s not particularly difficult to implement, and as we pay for the site, I think it’s ok for everyone to have a say or opinion.
As I said, the subject neither puts us up nor down but there’s clearly divided opinion so making it optional just lets the users decide. |
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The site is just about usable, though I get the feeling the owners inherited the codebase, and the developer only touches it when they really, really have to, as most of it will be not understood and like most old code, will break easily and be held together with sellotape and glue
At some point I would expect the owners to cash in, either to retire or through unwillingness to invest in the face of declining users - after all, the value is in the members database, new owners could then develop a new app in parallel, test and rollout |
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By *oxy jWoman 4 weeks ago
somerset |
needs to get back to being a swingers site rather than a porn site for men ... but i suspect as with all websites they will follow the money as its a business..
would like to see more filters/block tools added ie distance is one
id like to see the private message link taken away from the forums as thats just another annoying way for people to clog you message box up ..
id like to see cam veris gone they are pointless totally pointless and id like to see everyone photo verified no ifs or buts
worth pointing out that fab is still by far the best swingers site out there for actually working for couples and women for men not so due to percentages |
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By *oxy jWoman 4 weeks ago
somerset |
"The site is just about usable, though I get the feeling the owners inherited the codebase, and the developer only touches it when they really, really have to, as most of it will be not understood and like most old code, will break easily and be held together with sellotape and glue
At some point I would expect the owners to cash in, either to retire or through unwillingness to invest in the face of declining users - after all, the value is in the members database, new owners could then develop a new app in parallel, test and rollout "
but theirs no decline in user's decline in women and couples yes but the vast amount of guys who join for the free porn wanks more than keep this site alive ..tho one day the balence will tip and the site could end up killing itself because its no longer a swing site and more a porn site.... for as long as men are chucking money at the site then it wont change ,,,
gfo back quite a few years before fab there were one or 2 big sites that started to get thing wrong fab came along and in a matter of a few week nearly killed those sites and thats what it will take again a new site to come along and all will jump ship fab will have a coice then change or sink ..thats all its takes to kill one site is for another to build a better one |
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I don’t want an app or all this fancy stuff that makes it look like every other social media site out there - I actually like the basic nature of the site. It works and it does what it says in the tin.
If you are struggling to get meets on here now then a new lick of paint isn’t going to solve the issue.
If you are not struggling for meets then why change it? |
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The whole reason fab is so successful is because it doesn't try and cater for every edge case and scenario to make it perfect.
For example, some of the most fun meets we've had have been with brand new unverified, unpaid profiles
The fact the website just works with no funky transitions, or process flows or anything "modern and appy" makes it so nice to use.
If you want the stuff you're talking about go to the other sites which have recently sprung up, but our experience of those is that they are too focused on making a profit out of it and the costs are very unappealing, especially to say single men who make this site what it is.
Small incremental changes would be appreciated but to suggest that a whole site redesign could be done and keep the same price and the same constantly changing members isn't realistic.
Honestly, fab works perfectly how it is. |
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"I don’t want an app or all this fancy stuff that makes it look like every other social media site out there - I actually like the basic nature of the site. It works and it does what it says in the tin.
If you are struggling to get meets on here now then a new lick of paint isn’t going to solve the issue.
If you are not struggling for meets then why change it?"
This. ^^^ |
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Hi OP,
Strong no to an app from me. I don’t want something permanent on my phone. I travel to some countries that take a dim view of fab type activities. Equally, some people have limited space on their phones so avoid installing apps.
One feature, that would be trivial to implement is that the green arrow appears on people’s profile page, so you could go directly from a profile to the threads they have been posting on. Seeing how people write gives a valuable insight into the real person. |
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"Hi OP,
Strong no to an app from me. I don’t want something permanent on my phone. I travel to some countries that take a dim view of fab type activities. Equally, some people have limited space on their phones so avoid installing apps.
One feature, that would be trivial to implement is that the green arrow appears on people’s profile page, so you could go directly from a profile to the threads they have been posting on. Seeing how people write gives a valuable insight into the real person. "
We’ve been to lots of “conservative counties” and have never had any issues so don’t get this app might be frowned upon. It’s a red flag I have an other half but they don’t know vibe. |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
Newcastle |
"The whole reason fab is so successful is because it doesn't try and cater for every edge case and scenario to make it perfect.
For example, some of the most fun meets we've had have been with brand new unverified, unpaid profiles
The fact the website just works with no funky transitions, or process flows or anything "modern and appy" makes it so nice to use.
If you want the stuff you're talking about go to the other sites which have recently sprung up, but our experience of those is that they are too focused on making a profit out of it and the costs are very unappealing, especially to say single men who make this site what it is.
Small incremental changes would be appreciated but to suggest that a whole site redesign could be done and keep the same price and the same constantly changing members isn't realistic.
Honestly, fab works perfectly how it is. "
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"Who else would like to see a bit of an overhaul with fab? Basically nothing has changed in decades! We started this in site feedback forum but figured we’d like to see others opinions so reposted here!
Some things we’d like to see:
NATIVE APP:
Make the site a native app to allow better messaging, photo uploads, notifications and all sorts of other benefits. Keep it available on web too though!
COUPLES PROFILES:
Allow a couples profile to be made of two solo profiles (link them) for those that also play solo or are looking for different things. Also in messages, sign off the message with who sent it from the couple (like any other messaging service)
MESSAGES:
Overhaul this totally. Make it an app (the whole site) that still works on a computer but allows better messaging. Allow groups, notifications, tagging, emoji (real ones not the limited number of bb ones we have now).
ALSO MESSAGES:
Allow us to tap the last contact message at the top of a profile to go directly into that thread so we don’t have control through hundreds of messages to find it!
That’s a start, there’s more we’d like to see too but would love to hear other’s feedback?"
I would, I’d love to help design and build a web app for fab x |
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By *oxy jWoman 4 weeks ago
somerset |
people struggling to get meets will alway struggle to get meets no amout of upgrades or shiny new toys will help that sexual attraction IS what it is your either wanted or not or at least not yet ..
as for fakes ive been on many swingers sites and no amount of changes will change that for as long as there are desperate men getting nowhere then there will be desperate men pretending to be women or couples to ruin it for others ...
see the fact is if 90% of men left the scene the scene would not notice because 95% get nowhere anyway .. but if 90% of men left fab the fab would collapse not because of the scene and swinging but just for the loss of revenue to fab ....
fab is a business and business = money the easiest way to get money is sex sell |
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Its not a site/layout change thats needed im my opinion, its the user experience which needs looking at from the comments im seeing.
Im pretty new, but im reading:
- Women sick of 100s of dick pics.
- Abusive messages when a reply isnt recieved (or a no is received)
- Most people not happy with the ratio/gender balance.
- Men not getting replies.
Womon having 1000s messages a day.
Im sure theres more if I thought about it...
Personaly, the site could be pink with yellow polker dots sprinkled in glitter but it wouldnt address these issues.
99% of people are here for a good experience but most comments I see in the forum are suggesting its generally a bad experience for most people - so I think this is where admin should focus on.
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I'm fairly content with it staying as it is.
The search options need to be expanded, to allow searching upon preferred height, body type etc, to suit individual tastes. Just this would make a massive difference |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
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"Its not a site/layout change thats needed im my opinion, its the user experience which needs looking at from the comments im seeing.
Im pretty new, but im reading:
- Women sick of 100s of dick pics.
- Abusive messages when a reply isnt recieved (or a no is received)
- Most people not happy with the ratio/gender balance.
- Men not getting replies.
Womon having 1000s messages a day.
Im sure theres more if I thought about it...
Personaly, the site could be pink with yellow polker dots sprinkled in glitter but it wouldnt address these issues.
99% of people are here for a good experience but most comments I see in the forum are suggesting its generally a bad experience for most people - so I think this is where admin should focus on.
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"Its not a site/layout change thats needed im my opinion, its the user experience which needs looking at from the comments im seeing.
Im pretty new, but im reading:
- Women sick of 100s of dick pics.
- Abusive messages when a reply isnt recieved (or a no is received)
- Most people not happy with the ratio/gender balance.
- Men not getting replies.
Womon having 1000s messages a day.
Im sure theres more if I thought about it...
Personaly, the site could be pink with yellow polker dots sprinkled in glitter but it wouldnt address these issues.
99% of people are here for a good experience but most comments I see in the forum are suggesting its generally a bad experience for most people - so I think this is where admin should focus on.
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"Hi OP,
Strong no to an app from me. I don’t want something permanent on my phone. I travel to some countries that take a dim view of fab type activities. Equally, some people have limited space on their phones so avoid installing apps.
One feature, that would be trivial to implement is that the green arrow appears on people’s profile page, so you could go directly from a profile to the threads they have been posting on. Seeing how people write gives a valuable insight into the real person.
We’ve been to lots of “conservative counties” and have never had any issues so don’t get this app might be frowned upon. It’s a red flag I have an other half but they don’t know vibe."
Do you have sexual or swinging apps on your devices though? |
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"Its not a site/layout change thats needed im my opinion, its the user experience which needs looking at from the comments im seeing.
Im pretty new, but im reading:
- Women sick of 100s of dick pics.
- Abusive messages when a reply isnt recieved (or a no is received)
- Most people not happy with the ratio/gender balance.
- Men not getting replies.
Womon having 1000s messages a day.
Im sure theres more if I thought about it...
Personaly, the site could be pink with yellow polker dots sprinkled in glitter but it wouldnt address these issues.
99% of people are here for a good experience but most comments I see in the forum are suggesting its generally a bad experience for most people - so I think this is where admin should focus on.
It would be interesting to see what your ideas are, to fix those things "
There's ways of addressing them, just needs some user feedback on if they are actually issues (not just my experience) and then some brainstorming and thought around how to improve/tackle them. I've got ideas but like I say, people may not think these are issues anyway so you shouldnt just go off one persons views, but I do see a lot of comments along these lines...
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"I think it would be a great feature if you could comment on photos, almost Facebook style
This has been brought up many times and most people, me included, say they wouldn't want it.
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other apps and sites which allow this (I don’t want to name the two I can think of) does it and it’s just spammed by guys. It’d be tenfold on here.
That said, letting friends do so may be an option that’d be a good compromise. But it’d pull eyes out of forums/chat and make them quieter. On sites where sharing media like that is more the focus it’d work. |
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I’m finding near impossible on iPhone to view the profile of someone I’m talking to via message . In messaging, clicking on their name it used to go to their profile now it just opens the full chat history
The only way to find their profile is to search their username or hope I hotlisted them |
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"I’m finding near impossible on iPhone to view the profile of someone I’m talking to via message . In messaging, clicking on their name it used to go to their profile now it just opens the full chat history
The only way to find their profile is to search their username or hope I hotlisted them"
Just click on the profile picture alongside their messages. |
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By *ucka39Man 4 weeks ago
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"I’m finding near impossible on iPhone to view the profile of someone I’m talking to via message . In messaging, clicking on their name it used to go to their profile now it just opens the full chat history
The only way to find their profile is to search their username or hope I hotlisted them
Just click on the profile picture alongside their messages."
Exactly
!_! Profile picture. Here's message
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I think this thread basically sums up the problem in a nutshell. For every user that likes it as it is there's a user who would prefer it to be modernised.
That said the changes being suggested now are against the backdrop of a system that hasn't changed in many years. If those changes had been incrementally introduced the users that like the retro feel will have moved along at a steady pace and those that like a modern interface would have that.
I can't see Fab changing; there have been slight functional changes requested for years that haven't been implemented.
Development takes time and money. At a guess to implement a new web app would take between 6-12 months. Why would you make that investment if half the users don't want to see it changed?
For those that want something different why are you on this site; what does it offer that more modern sites/apps don't?
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"I think this thread basically sums up the problem in a nutshell. For every user that likes it as it is there's a user who would prefer it to be modernised.
That said the changes being suggested now are against the backdrop of a system that hasn't changed in many years. If those changes had been incrementally introduced the users that like the retro feel will have moved along at a steady pace and those that like a modern interface would have that.
I can't see Fab changing; there have been slight functional changes requested for years that haven't been implemented.
Development takes time and money. At a guess to implement a new web app would take between 6-12 months. Why would you make that investment if half the users don't want to see it changed?
For those that want something different why are you on this site; what does it offer that more modern sites/apps don't?
It’s not just that half the users don’t want the site changed. You can bet your life that most who do want changes wouldn’t want to actually have to pay more to get them.
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I think one of the challenges here would be that the things that make fab work commercially are not the things that people want to see in the app.
Having sex with people isn't going to go out of fashion anytime soon, and if a website successfully facilitates people meeting people for that, it will be popular. For less than £5 a month I'll take that.
But it seems daft to have taken away the subject field, and the change to now needing to click on an image into a profile (which is very bad from an accessibility perspective), when things for example like a filter that 'prevent sending more than one message within 7 days unless I answer or wink' would make the experience for everyone far better as it stops guys doing the scattergun approach every day, and women/couples would actually have time to look through the messages they receive.
Also a dark mode would be nice - that's just a style sheet change.
But my concern with this old school site is it might not be up to date from hackers. I'm a software engineer, I spend at least 30% of my time dealing with vulnerabilities. Then again, it's so old it might not have the common vulnerabilities that hackers go for... |
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"Its not a site/layout change thats needed im my opinion, its the user experience which needs looking at from the comments im seeing.
Im pretty new, but im reading:
- Women sick of 100s of dick pics.
- Abusive messages when a reply isnt recieved (or a no is received)
- Most people not happy with the ratio/gender balance.
- Men not getting replies.
Womon having 1000s messages a day.
Im sure theres more if I thought about it...
Personaly, the site could be pink with yellow polker dots sprinkled in glitter but it wouldnt address these issues.
99% of people are here for a good experience but most comments I see in the forum are suggesting its generally a bad experience for most people - so I think this is where admin should focus on.
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95% agree, there are certainly MANY more fakes and timewasters on here then there used to be, most of our chats now lead nowhere and it's tiring to say the least !. We could not agree that 99% are here for a good experience though, it's more like 10% if that. |
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" a filter that 'prevent sending more than one message within 7 days unless I answer or wink' would make the experience for everyone far better as it stops guys doing the scattergun approach every day, and women/couples would actually have time to look through the messages they receive.
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No !, we have often found when trying to contact single girls that our messages get lost in the deluge they receive every day. Sending again has sometimes come to their attention and led to meets !. Be careful to think of all angles... |
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By *ugby 123Couple 4 weeks ago
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95% agree, there are certainly MANY more fakes and timewasters on here then there used to be, most of our chats now lead nowhere and it's tiring to say the least !.."
We wouldn't describe people as fake if the conversation didn't lead to a meet. I would say people are exercising their right not to carry on with the chat. We used to speak to lots of people to see if we matched, but didn't meet everyone of them.
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" a filter that 'prevent sending more than one message within 7 days unless I answer or wink' would make the experience for everyone far better as it stops guys doing the scattergun approach every day, and women/couples would actually have time to look through the messages they receive.
No !, we have often found when trying to contact single girls that our messages get lost in the deluge they receive every day. Sending again has sometimes come to their attention and led to meets !. Be careful to think of all angles... "
But the reason they get lost in the deluge is that the inbox only sorts by date received. So whilst the welcome change of a couple of years ago to show only the most recent email from a sender, it doesn't stop someone sending a new email which moves them up to the top of the inbox, and a mail sent 5 hours ago might be off the visible screen.
If people couldn't resend until 7 days had elapsed, this issue would disappear. |
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95% agree, there are certainly MANY more fakes and timewasters on here then there used to be, most of our chats now lead nowhere and it's tiring to say the least !..
We wouldn't describe people as fake if the conversation didn't lead to a meet. I would say people are exercising their right not to carry on with the chat. We used to speak to lots of people to see if we matched, but didn't meet everyone of them.
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You are assuming there !. We're talking of folk we discover posting fake photos from the Internet, those who ghost us or suddenly leave site when it gets to the point of arranging a meet or on the day itself (one couple did it THREE TIMES), those who claim great interest then that they have no time to meet or keep moving the goalposts backwards, 'couples' who we discover are dishonest single guys....most 9f these after weeks of chat and photo/face pic swapping so hell yes timewasters !!. We first joined fab ten years ago, it was certainly no where near as bad as it is now. |
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By *ugby 123Couple 4 weeks ago
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To be fair I didn't assume, it is what you wrote.
As I said in mine, working towards a meet took time for us, if someone changed their minds or we did we were happy they did rather than carry on the chat for no gain.
Back to Mod mode...always report anyone you think is using fake pics etc |
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COUPLES PROFILES:
Allow a couples profile to be made of two solo profiles (link them) for those that also play solo or are looking for different things. Also in messages, sign off the message with who sent it from the couple (like any other messaging service)
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Yes link several profiles (as in our case) yet also allow a couples profile to have individual interest lists as they often apply to one but not the other !
Even simpler update, add 'spit roast' as an interest. It never seases to amaze us how many list 'DP' but not anal 
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"Having filters on your photo gallery like messages so you can choose who views them (block males, age ranges, distance etc) and you can opt in or out of latest photos (or ideally linked to the above) so only your chosen audience can see them via this feature. "
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"Anything to stop the sea of fakes and timewasters on here now !!, it has become ridiculous."
The site cannot stop people pretending to be something they aren't. At least it's too basic for bots.
Personally, I think that the site is generally fine as it is.
It would help if new members were directed to the FAQs before they are able to use the site and if there was a requirement for a profile photo and minimum characters for a profile.
Being able to rearrange photos would probably be the best feature. |
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They are making too much money to overhaul the site when people start boycotting paying for the useless gold and silver status they will be forced to do something we won't be renewing again until drastic changes occur and would encourage others to do the same |
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"Anything to stop the sea of fakes and timewasters on here now !!, it has become ridiculous.
The site cannot stop people pretending to be something they aren't. At least it's too basic for bots.
Personally, I think that the site is generally fine as it is.
It would help if new members were directed to the FAQs before they are able to use the site and if there was a requirement for a profile photo and minimum characters for a profile.
Being able to rearrange photos would probably be the best feature."
They can, they can are video and ID verification like other similar sites do. |
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"To be honest most of the ideas mentioned just sound like pointless nonsense for geeks.
The site is easy to use and cheap.
Therein lies it’s success."
You’re right. And I’m a geek (work in the industry) and the site is dated, and every aspect I could point to lots of it and suggest upgrades.
But it works. It’s easy to use. Its strength is in its simplicity. It’s why Craigslist has never strayed far from its origins.
You can modernise it as much as possible but they risk alienating established users who are familiar with it. |
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"Not to pour cold water, but as a developer, the work involved in converting what's almost definitely an old legacy site to an app is huge. Then you have to maintain two codebases if you still keep the html website going. It's resource intensive and a lot of work.
I don't think they have the staff or inclination to do that. "
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"Having filters on your photo gallery like messages so you can choose who views them (block males, age ranges, distance etc) and you can opt in or out of latest photos (or ideally linked to the above) so only your chosen audience can see them via this feature.
100% this"
Isn’t that what private pics are for? |
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Ironically one if the latest updates states "...just write your message, same as you would do on a whatsapp or a text."
Interestingly, that doesn't work for everyone because it's trying to put a modern twist into a dated system.
Most users are familiar with apps/modern design; the world has moved on from bulletin boards etc
The simplicity of the site is also it's weakness. The price point is probably it's only USP now.
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed "
https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/1602594
Admin have posted here for feedback |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed "
I actually really like it and helps if you know you've spoken before but can't remember what was said. |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed
I actually really like it and helps if you know you've spoken before but can't remember what was said. "
I like it too, what I find annoying is the time it takes for users to show offline after they have logged out, I have messaged when showing online to find they had logged off upto 20 minutes before |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed
I actually really like it and helps if you know you've spoken before but can't remember what was said. "
It's a from me too! |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed "
I agree that it shouldn’t show if it’s been deleted? However, be mindful that just because you delete something, the data doesn’t get deleted. It’s just hidden from view but it has to be retained in the database for a set period of time. (This is not just fab). |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed
I agree that it shouldn’t show if it’s been deleted? However, be mindful that just because you delete something, the data doesn’t get deleted. It’s just hidden from view but it has to be retained in the database for a set period of time. (This is not just fab). "
I find it even more useful for this reason. For example if I've deleted a message saying no thanks. With this new feature both the sender and recipient can actually see that |
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed "
Might help repeat messagers they will see they have already messaged that person and what was said and might stop them sending another
I love it sometimes i forget who someone is and what was said before |
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By *ugby 123Couple 4 weeks ago
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"Why does your email history to other users now show on their profiles even when you have deleted the emails I find this wrong and intrusive and needs to be removed
I actually really like it and helps if you know you've spoken before but can't remember what was said.
I like it too, what I find annoying is the time it takes for users to show offline after they have logged out, I have messaged when showing online to find they had logged off upto 20 minutes before"
Even if they were online they may not have answered |
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"When you click on a person's profile and see that you've messaged previously - have a feature that allows you to view that mail history
A woman's only section - profile set up determines access - that can be used for health, support, other
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"An edit or delete feature in the forum would be good.
You've only got minutes to delete a post if you want to start again and there's no edit feature.
Very basic ideas but we don't have them. "
Editing posts on a forum is a _bad_ idea. People could respond before you change it and then you can fundamentally change the meaning of their response by what you alter your original post to. |
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"An edit or delete feature in the forum would be good.
You've only got minutes to delete a post if you want to start again and there's no edit feature.
Very basic ideas but we don't have them.
Editing posts on a forum is a _bad_ idea. People could respond before you change it and then you can fundamentally change the meaning of their response by what you alter your original post to."
How does correcting grammar or spelling mistakes fundamentally change the meaning of a post?
Have you seen the state of some of the posts in here? Sometimes you can't make out what the person is saying.
In other forums when there's been an edit in the post it will say "post edit on date and time" editing a post won't change the meaning of a post unless you completely delete the post and write something different. |
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"An edit or delete feature in the forum would be good.
You've only got minutes to delete a post if you want to start again and there's no edit feature.
Very basic ideas but we don't have them.
Editing posts on a forum is a _bad_ idea. People could respond before you change it and then you can fundamentally change the meaning of their response by what you alter your original post to.
How does correcting grammar or spelling mistakes fundamentally change the meaning of a post?
Have you seen the state of some of the posts in here? Sometimes you can't make out what the person is saying.
In other forums when there's been an edit in the post it will say "post edit on date and time" editing a post won't change the meaning of a post unless you completely delete the post and write something different. "
You post “I love cheese”. I say “WTF?? Are you crazy?”. You change it to “I hate racists”. |
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By *rBakerMan 3 weeks ago
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its gone so bad
only updates you see is from event host making money
also the amount of times i get messages asking how will i reward them in other words prostitution
i dont entirely blame fab the scene as changed
admin are not doing a good job
wont be renewing after 12 years a gold member ban me if you like you will be doing me a favour
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"An edit or delete feature in the forum would be good.
You've only got minutes to delete a post if you want to start again and there's no edit feature.
Very basic ideas but we don't have them.
Editing posts on a forum is a _bad_ idea. People could respond before you change it and then you can fundamentally change the meaning of their response by what you alter your original post to.
How does correcting grammar or spelling mistakes fundamentally change the meaning of a post?
Have you seen the state of some of the posts in here? Sometimes you can't make out what the person is saying.
In other forums when there's been an edit in the post it will say "post edit on date and time" editing a post won't change the meaning of a post unless you completely delete the post and write something different.
You post “I love cheese”. I say “WTF?? Are you crazy?”. You change it to “I hate racists”."
In which case they could allow deletion of your post at anytime but only allow editing for a limited time such as 10 minutes.
This will allow people to correct any mistakes rather than the current system where you have to delete the entire post and start again. |
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"An edit or delete feature in the forum would be good.
You've only got minutes to delete a post if you want to start again and there's no edit feature.
Very basic ideas but we don't have them.
Editing posts on a forum is a _bad_ idea. People could respond before you change it and then you can fundamentally change the meaning of their response by what you alter your original post to.
How does correcting grammar or spelling mistakes fundamentally change the meaning of a post?
Have you seen the state of some of the posts in here? Sometimes you can't make out what the person is saying.
In other forums when there's been an edit in the post it will say "post edit on date and time" editing a post won't change the meaning of a post unless you completely delete the post and write something different.
You post “I love cheese”. I say “WTF?? Are you crazy?”. You change it to “I hate racists”.
In which case they could allow deletion of your post at anytime but only allow editing for a limited time such as 10 minutes.
This will allow people to correct any mistakes rather than the current system where you have to delete the entire post and start again."
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Ok. So supposing a complete overhaul of the site with loads of improvements and the obvious costs involved meant no more free membership, and maybe a 50% increase on current prices; ( given that prices have barely changed in years).
How many are up for that ? |
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"Ok. So supposing a complete overhaul of the site with loads of improvements and the obvious costs involved meant no more free membership, and maybe a 50% increase on current prices; ( given that prices have barely changed in years).
How many are up for that ?"
People can always stay on a free site but those that wish to pay for, hopefully, a better user experience will probably pay. |
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Meets and events
The forum is good for big chunks of information on a club event or local social.
But to be able to actually seach for events and socials in a radius would be handy.
Much like how you can search for users looking to meet, or users in general.
The meets and events section is currently carved up by areas of the country spanning miles!
For example if we search for an event in Wales it will show us Wrexham and we live in South Wales. But in reality there's the Bristol social an hour down the M4 that we wouldn't know about unless we searched South West events... which is just as likely to show us events in Cornwall.
I feel like having events on a radius search over an area search would help new users find the clubs and organised socials in the area they comfortable to travel in.
The same could be said for private meets section! Again searching huge chunks of the country as opposed to radius means we might miss some one looking to meet in a reasonable distance in another area.
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This is a really interesting thread and there's some great suggestions on here. Does anyone know if the site owners actually respond publicly or privately to suggestions and comments? It's all very well having a 'site feedback and suggestions' section in the forum, but if genuine site users who want to create a better end user experience don't feel their suggestions are being listened to, then what's the point?
Also, given that the site has very few innovations and looks like it was created in the time of dial up modems, I'd be concerned about end user security too. Does anyone with knowledge of code and tech know if this concern is justified?
Finally (sorry, long post!) I too find the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' rationale a bit perplexing, given the amount of feedback on this thread that tends to suggest the site is actually a bit broken by modern standards and user expectations. |
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"Ok. So supposing a complete overhaul of the site with loads of improvements and the obvious costs involved meant no more free membership, and maybe a 50% increase on current prices; ( given that prices have barely changed in years).
How many are up for that ?"
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I would be. Willing to pay a few quid extra for. Better experience. |
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By *bzcouple OP Couple 3 weeks ago
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Lots of really good discussion so far everyone, thanks!
Which brings me to a forum update…
Like, dislike, tag people, polls and media in threads!
I also like the suggestion of allowing edits too (for spelling for example). Other forums do it, and I get the point about replies being to the original post, but the original posts are usually available under “edit history”. |
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I quite like it as it is, there are some tweaks, like I said in the survey recently, if you block someone they don't show up on the forums and you can't see their status updates when you look at the block list.
Be nice to get notifications when someone has replied to you on forums.
It is dated I will give you that but still works for me as is, the things I have mentioned would be nice but not majorly important |
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Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
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"Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
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This is precisely the type of forum post that needs the “like” or similar button!
I’d say that couples should have two single accounts with a verification of them both together yearly if not verified by others in that time? |
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"Can we have Yorkshire as a area rather than just east Midlands or North East "
Could do with splitting Wales into South Wales and North Wales regions…its quicker to get to London than it is to travel between the two! |
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"Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
This is precisely the type of forum post that needs the “like” or similar button!
I’d say that couples should have two single accounts with a verification of them both together yearly if not verified by others in that time?"
Lot of good points there, but verification by photo and/or other users needs to be complemented by other scrutiny. Have met some fab ppl who haven't had verifications of any type, and there are verified timewasters, etc.
Given you can filter out the unverified anyway, maybe an additional filter to apply a time limit on verifications would help complete the functions you suggest, e.g. only show those verified by meet within one year.
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"Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
This is precisely the type of forum post that needs the “like” or similar button!
I’d say that couples should have two single accounts with a verification of them both together yearly if not verified by others in that time?"
What does site verification achieve? We are not site verified but have in person verifications from when we go to clubs.
We are 'real'. We have no intention of arranging meets. We go to clubs and meet 'real' people. If they are on FAB great; if not, doesn't really matter to us per se. If we then communicate on here we already know them so we don't need the site to tell us they are genuine or not.
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The best change would be if brows meets would show looking for EG. I my case Only ads who want males would show saving males and couples era a lot of time
Also interested in SM is a bit limiting given the vast range of options I. This wide topic |
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I don't see anything wrong with cam veris and think they should stay. Verifications aren't just for saying how good someone is at sex and what you physically did together, it's also to verify they're not a fake account, that they gave a good cam show, and due to travel limitations or family commitments etc it's a way of chatting, flirting, having some sexy viewing/playing fun, seeing that they're the same as they look on their profile pics so they're not fake, all while from the comfort of home or the workplace naughty naughty ha ha xx |
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"Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
This is precisely the type of forum post that needs the “like” or similar button!
I’d say that couples should have two single accounts with a verification of them both together yearly if not verified by others in that time?
Lot of good points there, but verification by photo and/or other users needs to be complemented by other scrutiny. Have met some fab ppl who haven't had verifications of any type, and there are verified timewasters, etc.
Given you can filter out the unverified anyway, maybe an additional filter to apply a time limit on verifications would help complete the functions you suggest, e.g. only show those verified by meet within one year.
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That could also work, it was more about ing out time wasters and fakes. But a filter on last verification could stop that tide too. We have blocked unverified accounts from messaging us which stems the flow a bit. |
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"Verification process
Genuinely believe everyone joining should have to site verify.
You can give them a window of access like being able to view profiles and news feed but not being able to message or post until they complete the site Verification.
This would cut the amount of fakes attempting to join, it would also show newcomers its worth getting verified.
On this, implement a re-verification process. We find so many profiles that haven't been verified by users in year, I think the worst we've seen local is 8 years! We call them dead profiles as the couple is clearly no longer swinging or potentially together.
Having to complete an annual site Verification would get rid of the fakes and time wasters in a few years.
This is precisely the type of forum post that needs the “like” or similar button!
I’d say that couples should have two single accounts with a verification of them both together yearly if not verified by others in that time?
What does site verification achieve? We are not site verified but have in person verifications from when we go to clubs.
We are 'real'. We have no intention of arranging meets. We go to clubs and meet 'real' people. If they are on FAB great; if not, doesn't really matter to us per se. If we then communicate on here we already know them so we don't need the site to tell us they are genuine or not.
Not everyone uses the site the same way as every else. "
Understandable we do both. We meet from fab and at clubs. The site Verification just says that this hot single lady you're messaging is in fact who they say they are and not Barry 70 from Ipswich posting his collection of photos.
Going back to accounts that haven't been verified in years it would stop them posting photos of their partner without their consent. Or show that couple or female are both still active on fab together, but have taken a long break from swinging/meeting. Again just stops fakes from thriving.
The easy solution is some form of re verification, until that's completed they go back on an admin block. Profile hidden from searches and only able to view the site.
It would encourage new users to the site and old users to remain on the site. Just that little green flag of "hey this user is genuine" |
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