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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same " nice try Op but its ingrained in them no hope for men  | |||
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" If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? " If bumble taught me anything it’s that most women are incapable of making a conversation happen without a man leading it A better fix would be some kind of matching feature added to the message filters “Stop anyone messaging you unless you’ve swiped right on their profile. Profiles won’t be notified whether you’ve swiped on them or not” | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it " Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight  | |||
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"I don’t think there is anyone who tars all men with the same brush. I get it must be really frustrating seeing how people view some men but that is because there are a lot of men who behave really badly. It’s #NotAllMen but it is enough to make it not worth bothering with single men sometimes. There’s another group of men who are frankly misogynistic on forums who make it worse still, they will talk about how ‘ugly’ women are stuck up and won’t fuck men who think should be able to fuck them. Like the average man in the street would choose to drive a Lada over a Ferrari ffs. Fab is a buyer’s market and it’s women who have the goods everyone wants. It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that. What’s that quote again “when all you’ve had is privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Fab is not the real world, and the men who are successful on here realise that, they treat women as equals, and with respect. The men who are not so successful keel failing but refuse to change, so they end up whining about it and blaming everyone but themselves. Men could make a difference by calling out poor behaviour, or challenging misogyny on the forums, but so few choose to do so, then they wonder why people group them in with arseholes." This is a great reply, thank you. Only my thiughrs are that if men do stand up against poor behaviour then it can become an absolute slanging match. Please understand my own personal opinion is that if you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face or present yourself in a certain way then don’t do it on any forum or walk of life. Take the constant pretty penis posts. So it’s okay to objectify part of a man that he cannot really change but if a post was started about pretty labia or breasts I don’t think it would be received as well, just my thoughts. | |||
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" If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? If bumble taught me anything it’s that most women are incapable of making a conversation happen without a man leading it A better fix would be some kind of matching feature added to the message filters “Stop anyone messaging you unless you’ve swiped right on their profile. Profiles won’t be notified whether you’ve swiped on them or not” " more casual misogyny from the peanut gallery | |||
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" Take the constant pretty penis posts. So it’s okay to objectify part of a man that he cannot really change but if a post was started about pretty labia or breasts I don’t think it would be received as well, just my thoughts. " There was a post on here recently where the topic was discussing what makes a penis ugly. No one cared. Someone had a pretty mean view on women’s tattoos + breast enhancement yesterday and they got eaten alive The double standards are wild | |||
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" If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? If bumble taught me anything it’s that most women are incapable of making a conversation happen without a man leading it A better fix would be some kind of matching feature added to the message filters “Stop anyone messaging you unless you’ve swiped right on their profile. Profiles won’t be notified whether you’ve swiped on them or not” more casual misogyny from the peanut gallery" If pointing out mine and many other men’s experience on bumble is misogyn Is it misandy when women point out their experiences on here with men? Don’t think about it too hard, you’ll hurt yourself | |||
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" If bumble taught me anything it’s that most women are incapable of making a conversation happen without a man leading it " Sorry but wtaf am i reading, are you for real, if thats your experience then fair enough. But still, WTAF am i reading here, ooh thats it im reading, some lovely in your face crap... Mr | |||
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"I don’t think there is anyone who tars all men with the same brush. I get it must be really frustrating seeing how people view some men but that is because there are a lot of men who behave really badly. It’s #NotAllMen but it is enough to make it not worth bothering with single men sometimes. There’s another group of men who are frankly misogynistic on forums who make it worse still, they will talk about how ‘ugly’ women are stuck up and won’t fuck men who think should be able to fuck them. Like the average man in the street would choose to drive a Lada over a Ferrari ffs. Fab is a buyer’s market and it’s women who have the goods everyone wants. It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that. What’s that quote again “when all you’ve had is privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Fab is not the real world, and the men who are successful on here realise that, they treat women as equals, and with respect. The men who are not so successful keel failing but refuse to change, so they end up whining about it and blaming everyone but themselves. Men could make a difference by calling out poor behaviour, or challenging misogyny on the forums, but so few choose to do so, then they wonder why people group them in with arseholes." Great response from you and I agree with all of it. When men call out poor behaviour and challenge misogyny, I try to acknowledge that. It means a lot. I think stereotypes are flung around here with abandon. I'm sure I have been guilty of it. I have a lot of empathy for the single men who find this site really hard going because of the behaviour of the rest. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same " There are a LOT of drama lama's on here op. They like to come on the forums and moan about the disrespectful messages they get etc etc. They could easily just block men and then just message who they want but then they wouldn't get the drama. Its like mumsnet on steroids
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"I don’t think there is anyone who tars all men with the same brush. I get it must be really frustrating seeing how people view some men but that is because there are a lot of men who behave really badly. It’s #NotAllMen but it is enough to make it not worth bothering with single men sometimes. There’s another group of men who are frankly misogynistic on forums who make it worse still, they will talk about how ‘ugly’ women are stuck up and won’t fuck men who think should be able to fuck them. Like the average man in the street would choose to drive a Lada over a Ferrari ffs. Fab is a buyer’s market and it’s women who have the goods everyone wants. It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that. What’s that quote again “when all you’ve had is privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Fab is not the real world, and the men who are successful on here realise that, they treat women as equals, and with respect. The men who are not so successful keel failing but refuse to change, so they end up whining about it and blaming everyone but themselves. Men could make a difference by calling out poor behaviour, or challenging misogyny on the forums, but so few choose to do so, then they wonder why people group them in with arseholes. Great response from you and I agree with all of it. When men call out poor behaviour and challenge misogyny, I try to acknowledge that. It means a lot. I think stereotypes are flung around here with abandon. I'm sure I have been guilty of it. I have a lot of empathy for the single men who find this site really hard going because of the behaviour of the rest. " Unfortunaly my experience, of using fab as a single man over numerous years, one thing i learn't was; that I carried other men's behaviour. But that being said, other mens behaviour is bot my shame to carry so to speak. So ergo dictates that I had to do something differently from the majority, not all. I'm guilty of acting like a dick especially on the forums, but if i'm man enogh to behave a certain way,i have to be man enough to accept the consequences, as its all down to choice, as I do have a chouce, as to how i behave. Mr | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same There are a LOT of drama lama's on here op. They like to come on the forums and moan about the disrespectful messages they get etc etc. They could easily just block men and then just message who they want but then they wouldn't get the drama. Its like mumsnet on steroids
Mr"So no censure for the men who send the disrespectful messages? Just for the women who don't use Fab the way you think they ought to? | |||
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"I don’t think there is anyone who tars all men with the same brush. I get it must be really frustrating seeing how people view some men but that is because there are a lot of men who behave really badly. It’s #NotAllMen but it is enough to make it not worth bothering with single men sometimes. There’s another group of men who are frankly misogynistic on forums who make it worse still, they will talk about how ‘ugly’ women are stuck up and won’t fuck men who think should be able to fuck them. Like the average man in the street would choose to drive a Lada over a Ferrari ffs. Fab is a buyer’s market and it’s women who have the goods everyone wants. It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that. What’s that quote again “when all you’ve had is privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Fab is not the real world, and the men who are successful on here realise that, they treat women as equals, and with respect. The men who are not so successful keel failing but refuse to change, so they end up whining about it and blaming everyone but themselves. Men could make a difference by calling out poor behaviour, or challenging misogyny on the forums, but so few choose to do so, then they wonder why people group them in with arseholes. This is a great reply, thank you. Only my thiughrs are that if men do stand up against poor behaviour then it can become an absolute slanging match. Please understand my own personal opinion is that if you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face or present yourself in a certain way then don’t do it on any forum or walk of life. Take the constant pretty penis posts. So it’s okay to objectify part of a man that he cannot really change but if a post was started about pretty labia or breasts I don’t think it would be received as well, just my thoughts. " The pretty penis thing would be more pertinent if the majority of threads about pretty penises weren’t started by men. | |||
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"As someone who often scrolls through pages of profiles, I see many who make no effort to attract women. I get eye strain before I see anyone I'd be interested in messaging. If I were looking and had to send a first message I wouldn't be sending out very many. I'm guessing there would be a lot of men not getting any messages. " Plus ca change | |||
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"I don’t think there is anyone who tars all men with the same brush. I get it must be really frustrating seeing how people view some men but that is because there are a lot of men who behave really badly. It’s #NotAllMen but it is enough to make it not worth bothering with single men sometimes. There’s another group of men who are frankly misogynistic on forums who make it worse still, they will talk about how ‘ugly’ women are stuck up and won’t fuck men who think should be able to fuck them. Like the average man in the street would choose to drive a Lada over a Ferrari ffs. Fab is a buyer’s market and it’s women who have the goods everyone wants. It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that. What’s that quote again “when all you’ve had is privilege, equality feels like oppression.” Fab is not the real world, and the men who are successful on here realise that, they treat women as equals, and with respect. The men who are not so successful keel failing but refuse to change, so they end up whining about it and blaming everyone but themselves. Men could make a difference by calling out poor behaviour, or challenging misogyny on the forums, but so few choose to do so, then they wonder why people group them in with arseholes." Not you're living in the real world. "It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that." If men have that much power in the real world, then why are they here begging and wfor a rare chance of a cunt's attention? | |||
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"Men join the Army, Police, Firefighting force and other dangerous jobs to enforce anti men laws. Then given a medal for being good boys. " Which laws are anti-men? | |||
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" Great response from you and I agree with all of it. When men call out poor behaviour and challenge misogyny, I try to acknowledge that. It means a lot. I think stereotypes are flung around here with abandon. I'm sure I have been guilty of it. I have a lot of empathy for the single men who find this site really hard going because of the behaviour of the rest. Unfortunaly my experience, of using fab as a single man over numerous years, one thing i learn't was; that I carried other men's behaviour. But that being said, other mens behaviour is bot my shame to carry so to speak. So ergo dictates that I had to do something differently from the majority, not all. I'm guilty of acting like a dick especially on the forums, but if i'm man enogh to behave a certain way,i have to be man enough to accept the consequences, as its all down to choice, as I do have a chouce, as to how i behave. Mr " I agree - no man should have to carry the shame of other men's behaviour. But it would greatly help if more recognised that behaviour (not just on Fab) and the impact on women. Just as I think women need to try and understand men and what impacts them. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same There are a LOT of drama lama's on here op. They like to come on the forums and moan about the disrespectful messages they get etc etc. They could easily just block men and then just message who they want but then they wouldn't get the drama. Its like mumsnet on steroids
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So no censure for the men who send the disrespectful messages? Just for the women who don't use Fab the way you think they ought to?"Everyone has a censure button, its called the block button. The site also provides filters so that you can block out messages from certain demographics. Everyone can use them, but then there is no drama so some choose not to  | |||
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"Men join the Army, Police, Firefighting force and other dangerous jobs to enforce anti men laws. Then given a medal for being good boys. Which laws are anti-men?" You know the Lesbian act of 1984 
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"It’s not all men. But a vast majority on here ruin it for others. We do carpark meets. We normally want about five guys. We invite twelve. We have two show up. Everytime. " So just for sport. Is it that men don't do exactly what you want when you want and where you want and how you want that troubles you? | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same There are a LOT of drama lama's on here op. They like to come on the forums and moan about the disrespectful messages they get etc etc. They could easily just block men and then just message who they want but then they wouldn't get the drama. Its like mumsnet on steroids
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So no censure for the men who send the disrespectful messages? Just for the women who don't use Fab the way you think they ought to?
Everyone has a censure button, its called the block button. The site also provides filters so that you can block out messages from certain demographics. Everyone can use them, but then there is no drama so some choose not to "Thought as much | |||
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"Men join the Army, Police, Firefighting force and other dangerous jobs to enforce anti men laws. Then given a medal for being good boys. " Anti-men laws, could you be more specific? | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same There are a LOT of drama lama's on here op. They like to come on the forums and moan about the disrespectful messages they get etc etc. They could easily just block men and then just message who they want but then they wouldn't get the drama. Its like mumsnet on steroids
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So no censure for the men who send the disrespectful messages? Just for the women who don't use Fab the way you think they ought to?
Everyone has a censure button, its called the block button. The site also provides filters so that you can block out messages from certain demographics. Everyone can use them, but then there is no drama so some choose not to
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"Men join the Army, Police, Firefighting force and other dangerous jobs to enforce anti men laws. Then given a medal for being good boys. " Anti men laws... Love it! | |||
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" Not you're living in the real world. "It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that." If men have that much power in the real world, then why are they here begging and wfor a rare chance of a cunt's attention? " Delightful | |||
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" Great response from you and I agree with all of it. When men call out poor behaviour and challenge misogyny, I try to acknowledge that. It means a lot. I think stereotypes are flung around here with abandon. I'm sure I have been guilty of it. I have a lot of empathy for the single men who find this site really hard going because of the behaviour of the rest. Unfortunaly my experience, of using fab as a single man over numerous years, one thing i learn't was; that I carried other men's behaviour. But that being said, other mens behaviour is bot my shame to carry so to speak. So ergo dictates that I had to do something differently from the majority, not all. I'm guilty of acting like a dick especially on the forums, but if i'm man enogh to behave a certain way,i have to be man enough to accept the consequences, as its all down to choice, as I do have a chouce, as to how i behave. Mr I agree - no man should have to carry the shame of other men's behaviour. But it would greatly help if more recognised that behaviour (not just on Fab) and the impact on women. Just as I think women need to try and understand men and what impacts them. " I agree with you, but then some dont see it as an issue, and if thats the case, then there is no need for change, as after all the first step for change, is the self-admittance that their behaviour is wanky...and thats not gender specific. Ive witnesssed shit behaviour across the board, on here in clubs. Mr | |||
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"Men join the Army, Police, Firefighting force and other dangerous jobs to enforce anti men laws. Then given a medal for being good boys. Anti-men laws, could you be more specific?" No wanking in the ladies toilets. | |||
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"Buy a mirror. 99% of people who spoil it for others are men. There is a reason why there are couples-only or ladies-only clubs or parties." I can honestly say in 10 years of visiting clubs the only bad behaviour ive witnessed is from couples where one as been jealous or to d*unk. Ive never seen any trouble from the single guys. Men do get vilified on here but the forums aren't really representative of the site. Mr | |||
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"It’s not all men. But a vast majority on here ruin it for others. We do carpark meets. We normally want about five guys. We invite twelve. We have two show up. Everytime. So just for sport. Is it that men don't do exactly what you want when you want and where you want and how you want that troubles you? " No. That’s not even close to what I said is it.  | |||
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"Is it possible that it’s a numbers game? What I mean is that’s what quoted a lot is ratio of men to everyone else. Therefore proportionally the messages from men that are disrespectful is the same in percentage to everyone else who sends them. I asked for some profile advice a couple of weeks ago. I received 5 messages off woman and 1 off a couple saying that they’d never touch me due to my profile (obviously paraphrasing)" Question is, did you change your profile on the back of this?. | |||
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"I can break this down really simply. 7 years of using fab has taught me.. I don't get my dick wet by being a dick... Mr "but you do get your dick wet in the shower | |||
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"I can break this down really simply. 7 years of using fab has taught me.. I don't get my dick wet by being a dick... Mr but you do get your dick wet in the shower "Aye i do but then shower doesn't block me, when i send it a dick pic attached to a cooy n pasted message....
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"I have nothing but respect and admiration for all women I'm interested in "Does that get your dick wet?
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"Who's definition of misogyny should men call out? When I first used the forums I called out what I perceived to be misogyny and got attacked by other men as a white knight. That didn't put me off but then I started to call out very obvious misandry only to be told by other men that I clearly hated women because I was nitpicking. That still didn't put me off but I decided to give up when a couple of women in a thread told me I was a perfect example of "one of those men" who thought that women needed men to protect them and they didn't need some "prick" pointing out that someone was being either misogynistic or misandric. I've also spoken on here about getting abuse for holding doors open for both men and women when a number of women called me a prick, a caveman, a misogynist and one told me my parents must be very proud knowing they had raised such an arsehole. The term damned if you do and damned if you don't comes to mind pretty often on here. I despise both misogyny and misandry but as there is virtually zero balance on these forums I just can't be arsed anymore." I think there seem to be quite a range of "definitions" of misogyny used in here. Some are very liberal (and incorrect) I find the use of it worrying as being labelled as one (when you aren't) can be very harmful. However you can't change what other people choose to define and use as misogyny however frustrating it may be when trying to have an adult discussion with other adults. | |||
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"I have nothing but respect and admiration for all women I'm interested in
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"It’s not all men. But a vast majority on here ruin it for others. We do carpark meets. We normally want about five guys. We invite twelve. We have two show up. Everytime. So just for sport. Is it that men don't do exactly what you want when you want and where you want and how you want that troubles you? No. That’s not even close to what I said is it. "No it's not in fairness. | |||
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"I have nothing but respect and admiration for all women I'm interested in
Does that get your dick wet?
Mr i get my dick wet in the shower "You n your dick are smashing life.. Mr | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight "You do weigh more than me, Fred. *punches Fred* | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight
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"I have nothing but respect and admiration for all women I'm interested in
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You n your dick are smashing life..
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"I have nothing but respect and admiration for all women I'm interested in
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You n your dick are smashing life..
Mr I'm living the dream "Or waking up to reality
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"Who's definition of misogyny should men call out? When I first used the forums I called out what I perceived to be misogyny and got attacked by other men as a white knight. That didn't put me off but then I started to call out very obvious misandry only to be told by other men that I clearly hated women because I was nitpicking. That still didn't put me off but I decided to give up when a couple of women in a thread told me I was a perfect example of "one of those men" who thought that women needed men to protect them and they didn't need some "prick" pointing out that someone was being either misogynistic or misandric. I've also spoken on here about getting abuse for holding doors open for both men and women when a number of women called me a prick, a caveman, a misogynist and one told me my parents must be very proud knowing they had raised such an arsehole. The term damned if you do and damned if you don't comes to mind pretty often on here. I despise both misogyny and misandry but as there is virtually zero balance on these forums I just can't be arsed anymore. I think there seem to be quite a range of "definitions" of misogyny used in here. Some are very liberal (and incorrect) I find the use of it worrying as being labelled as one (when you aren't) can be very harmful. However you can't change what other people choose to define and use as misogyny however frustrating it may be when trying to have an adult discussion with other adults. " You're more gentle with words than me but you're the only one in here so far that gets it | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight
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"misogyny hatred or prejudice against women misogyny, hatred or prejudice against women, typically exhibited by men. It is generally accepted that misogyny is a consequence of patriarchy (male-dominated society), and the term may be applied to certain individuals as well as larger systems, societies, or cultures." How is it going so far for society since the Patriarchy was replaced by feminism? Are you happy with the catastrophic outcome? | |||
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"Of course these behaviors can be seen in all genders. However the fact is that most poor behavior towards women is perpetrated by men. Yea not all men. But enough men that women don’t always feel safe in an unknown man’s presence. If men want to be treated better as a category then they should spend time cleaning up their fellow men’s act rather than whinging that women do the same things too on occasion. You could start by calling out the frequent misogyny and homophobia on these forums if you want this to be a place where women feel safe and want to spend time. That would, in turn, attract more women." Why should they call it out though? Most people just come on here for a laugh and a chat. They don’t want to end up in arguments and debates. | |||
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"misogyny hatred or prejudice against women misogyny, hatred or prejudice against women, typically exhibited by men. It is generally accepted that misogyny is a consequence of patriarchy (male-dominated society), and the term may be applied to certain individuals as well as larger systems, societies, or cultures. How is it going so far for society since the Patriarchy was replaced by feminism? Are you happy with the catastrophic outcome? " When exactly was the patriarchy dismantled? Please let me know when this happens | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight
You do weigh more than me, Fred. *punches Fred*hey put your pink syrup on tonight
You’re making me miss home and Pepto Bismol, Fred."Hey if you're talking about home as in the good old US of A understandable but Joe Biden has it all under control on his 700 acre ranch he rounds up the cattle in his $260,000 electric car and starts a war because war means votes | |||
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"Of course these behaviors can be seen in all genders. However the fact is that most poor behavior towards women is perpetrated by men. Yea not all men. But enough men that women don’t always feel safe in an unknown man’s presence. If men want to be treated better as a category then they should spend time cleaning up their fellow men’s act rather than whinging that women do the same things too on occasion. You could start by calling out the frequent misogyny and homophobia on these forums if you want this to be a place where women feel safe and want to spend time. That would, in turn, attract more women. Why should they call it out though? Most people just come on here for a laugh and a chat. They don’t want to end up in arguments and debates. " Amen to that. That's why I avoid this place some days. | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. " Mines not going well | |||
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"I see as many “controversial” things said in forums by all groups. I have seen profiles stating all sorts by all groups. I have seen as many vagina photos as I have dick photos in profiles. Not white knighting at all, just really don’t understand it Women rule they have the pick of the bunch can say things we can't without punishment and can punch above their weight
You do weigh more than me, Fred. *punches Fred*hey put your pink syrup on tonight
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. Mines not going well"  . Mine go better | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. Mines not going well . Mine go better "Scans gallery, finds no camel toe pics, proceeds to hide all tighty-whitey pics | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. Mines not going well . Mine go better
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"Of course these behaviors can be seen in all genders. However the fact is that most poor behavior towards women is perpetrated by men. Yea not all men. But enough men that women don’t always feel safe in an unknown man’s presence. If men want to be treated better as a category then they should spend time cleaning up their fellow men’s act rather than whinging that women do the same things too on occasion. You could start by calling out the frequent misogyny and homophobia on these forums if you want this to be a place where women feel safe and want to spend time. That would, in turn, attract more women." I might consider going back to my default position of calling it out as soon as a large cross section of women start calling out misandry. I'm here to escape daily bs so I've no interest in getting into deep discussions and arguments but my experience on here over the years is that many people instructing others to call out certain behaviours are very myopic when it comes to the behaviour of others. | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. " • These threads are often polarising and, in some gutless fashion, I really can't be bothered with a magnum opus response — but I totally agree with you Nora. In essence it's the prevailing double standards on here that I can't stomach. On Fab whenever men behave despicably no one forgets. When a few good men behave impeccably no one remembers. | |||
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"I’ve been on here as part of a couple for years, and as a single so I’ve seen both sides. Let me start gents by saying the majority are massively letting down the minority! On the couples profile the amount of disgusting messages we got, along with seriously creepy ones and some outright rude obnoxious ones.. it was crazy! Then there’s some truly amazing guys who couldn’t be more thoughtful, friendly and generally great to chat with. The ratio is about 10,000/1 on that unfortunately. Doesn’t help the worst examples tend to be the most vocal on here and ping out a thousand messages a day. I can see why the ladies on here get exasperated. I can also see why a lot of the good guys get frustrated with how the assumption is generally negative towards single guys. The answer is just keep doing you and what you want, ignore everything else that’s going on or being said "Maybe it’s different for me as a guy on here But really? Out of 10,000 messages, 9,999 are abusive and 1 isn’t? For me, 99.9% of messages are just bland. Boring. Nothing. Very rarely do I get abuse, but then again, I’m not getting 100s of messages a day Is it really 10,000 to 1? Or are we exaggerating | |||
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"Is it possible that it’s a numbers game? What I mean is that’s what quoted a lot is ratio of men to everyone else. Therefore proportionally the messages from men that are disrespectful is the same in percentage to everyone else who sends them. I asked for some profile advice a couple of weeks ago. I received 5 messages off woman and 1 off a couple saying that they’d never touch me due to my profile (obviously paraphrasing) Question is, did you change your profile on the back of this?." From abusive replies…no | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. • These threads are often polarising and, in some gutless fashion, I really can't be bothered with a magnum opus response — but I totally agree with you Nora. In essence it's the prevailing double standards on here that I can't stomach. On Fab whenever men behave despicably no one forgets. When a few good men behave impeccably no one remembers." On the contrary, I think we do remember the men who behave well, they’re not on our blocklist for a start. | |||
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"misogyny hatred or prejudice against women misogyny, hatred or prejudice against women, typically exhibited by men. It is generally accepted that misogyny is a consequence of patriarchy (male-dominated society), and the term may be applied to certain individuals as well as larger systems, societies, or cultures. How is it going so far for society since the Patriarchy was replaced by feminism? Are you happy with the catastrophic outcome? When exactly was the patriarchy dismantled? Please let me know when this happens" I will tell you when enough men identify as a female cat to be adopted by women lol | |||
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" Not you're living in the real world. "It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that." If men have that much power in the real world, then why are they here begging and wfor a rare chance of a cunt's attention? Delightful" Oh, where’s the queue? | |||
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" Not you're living in the real world. "It’s not like the real world where men have the power, and there are a lot of men who don’t like that." If men have that much power in the real world, then why are they here begging and wfor a rare chance of a cunt's attention? Delightful Oh, where’s the queue? Behind Lidl's bins "They’re crouched in there watching Andrew Tate videos | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. " I agree with you but not the example given. That's not double standards, the majority of cameltoe threads started are about people discussing it without consent etc. That's why there's a shitstorm. Women don't tend to join in as much with the none creepy threads on it - no idea why. I don't think men are "vilified" but I do think they're far more likely to be treated with scorn and derision. I think that's a crying shame really. Have I been on the receiving end of appalling behaviour by a man from here? Yes. Do I think or act like all men are the scum of the earth? No. I've received less than a handful of abusive messages on here, my profile isn't an angry one. I think we (a general we) can sometimes fall in to the trap of treating men like lesser beings on here - the glee in which a new single man is ripped apart for a post being one example. A new single woman rarely faces that level of mockery. We can hold people accountable for their shitty behaviour, disagree with posts without making it a them vs us situation. We can treat people like people. It's not about a #notallmen situation, no. It's about recognising actual misogyny and misandry is shite and we should do better. Collectively. | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. I agree with you but not the example given. That's not double standards, the majority of cameltoe threads started are about people discussing it without consent etc. That's why there's a shitstorm. Women don't tend to join in as much with the none creepy threads on it - no idea why. I don't think men are "vilified" but I do think they're far more likely to be treated with scorn and derision. I think that's a crying shame really. Have I been on the receiving end of appalling behaviour by a man from here? Yes. Do I think or act like all men are the scum of the earth? No. I've received less than a handful of abusive messages on here, my profile isn't an angry one. I think we (a general we) can sometimes fall in to the trap of treating men like lesser beings on here - the glee in which a new single man is ripped apart for a post being one example. A new single woman rarely faces that level of mockery. We can hold people accountable for their shitty behaviour, disagree with posts without making it a them vs us situation. We can treat people like people. It's not about a #notallmen situation, no. It's about recognising actual misogyny and misandry is shite and we should do better. Collectively. " I think it is double standards. The gym threads? Camel toe at the gym - pervy and they should be getting on with what they’re doing (not saying I don’t agree with that btw!) Man on treadmill in his grey joggers with it all swaying about - hot. Double standards | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. I agree with you but not the example given. That's not double standards, the majority of cameltoe threads started are about people discussing it without consent etc. That's why there's a shitstorm. Women don't tend to join in as much with the none creepy threads on it - no idea why. I think it is double standards. The gym threads? Camel toe at the gym - pervy and they should be getting on with what they’re doing (not saying I don’t agree with that btw!) Man on treadmill in his grey joggers with it all swaying about - hot. Double standards " Ah if you'd given that as an example? I'd have agreed with your whole post. | |||
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"I agree with you op. There’s been a lot of man bashing on the forums over the years. I can’t stand it and have often commented. Also, double standards. For example, a woman (often me!) does a tightey whitey/bulging boxers thread and it goes down a treat. A man does a camel toe thread and all hell breaks loose. Can’t say I’ve ever had major issues or been offended by any men on here but that may be the way I use fab. I just don’t interact if I’m not interested. I agree with you but not the example given. That's not double standards, the majority of cameltoe threads started are about people discussing it without consent etc. That's why there's a shitstorm. Women don't tend to join in as much with the none creepy threads on it - no idea why. I don't think men are "vilified" but I do think they're far more likely to be treated with scorn and derision. I think that's a crying shame really. Have I been on the receiving end of appalling behaviour by a man from here? Yes. Do I think or act like all men are the scum of the earth? No. I've received less than a handful of abusive messages on here, my profile isn't an angry one. I think we (a general we) can sometimes fall in to the trap of treating men like lesser beings on here - the glee in which a new single man is ripped apart for a post being one example. A new single woman rarely faces that level of mockery. We can hold people accountable for their shitty behaviour, disagree with posts without making it a them vs us situation. We can treat people like people. It's not about a #notallmen situation, no. It's about recognising actual misogyny and misandry is shite and we should do better. Collectively. I think it is double standards. The gym threads? Camel toe at the gym - pervy and they should be getting on with what they’re doing (not saying I don’t agree with that btw!) Man on treadmill in his grey joggers with it all swaying about - hot. Double standards " exactly and that applies to many different topics of threads | |||
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"When I read a thread about being stood up by single men, I think that guy has wasted time on purpose. Because of how some men are seen on here, they will just mess about couples and single women, especially those who have made bad comments towards men. They will just sabotage the site by messing about and wasting the time of others. I have no solution just thought would put this out there." I commented on a thread a few months ago where a man was outlining the issues he had with being stood up a number of times. The general consensus among many on the thread was that it was down to something he had done or said. At the same time there was a thread running with a woman talking about how she was repeatedly stood up and the theme throughout that one was that the men who stood her up were all bastards and she had dodged a few bullets. Many of the comments on both threads were from the same people. The conclusion to be drawn therefore was that man doesn't turn up for any reason including personal choice and he's a cunt and woman doesn't turn up for any reason including personal choice and the man is still a cunt. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same " Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! " Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! " Thank you for your response and as it seems to be directed at me I will reply. Nowhere have I stated that I am master of anyones fate. It was, in my opinion, a genuine and valid thread but as you seem to have taken it personally against me, I quite happily retract from it and here. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. " No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups. | |||
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"When I read a thread about being stood up by single men, I think that guy has wasted time on purpose. Because of how some men are seen on here, they will just mess about couples and single women, especially those who have made bad comments towards men. They will just sabotage the site by messing about and wasting the time of others. I have no solution just thought would put this out there. I commented on a thread a few months ago where a man was outlining the issues he had with being stood up a number of times. The general consensus among many on the thread was that it was down to something he had done or said. At the same time there was a thread running with a woman talking about how she was repeatedly stood up and the theme throughout that one was that the men who stood her up were all bastards and she had dodged a few bullets. Many of the comments on both threads were from the same people. The conclusion to be drawn therefore was that man doesn't turn up for any reason including personal choice and he's a cunt and woman doesn't turn up for any reason including personal choice and the man is still a cunt. " And the men still chase these types that's why some can feel entitled because it is validated by some types of men. Hence the reason I do not involve myself as I am to good to be treated like an undesirable. The same reason I wouldn't even consider going to socials or clubs, Fab is a great advertisement for not getting involved. Why anyone would meet a person who generally slag off men, is beyond me. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! " exactly, that's why no profile picture, hidden profile, just use the forums if I am at home. open my door go out into the real world to experience real world interaction. | |||
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"I think someone above said "it's a buyers market" and I couldn't agree more. From my time.im the forum I ha e learnt that the women in here are just bombarded with horrible shit. They are here for the same reasons as the men but the men don't receive the harassment they do so it is quite forgiveable for alot of the women folk to have poor opinions of men. The my main takeaway from this forum is that us men, collectively, need to do better! " I don’t go for the “collectively” thing. Same as I don’t go for the sisterhood tosh. You are you, you do you. You’re not responsible for the actions of others. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same " Some deserve to be vilified though.. There's been some (note that word please) that have acted in the most disgusting way and the vast majority of other men rightly condemn them.. Bad types are in all dynamics of course they are but look at the ratio of men to women and couples and it stands to reason that there are a higher percentage of those men who for whatever reasons act very badly.. Whenever such threads come up all men are not tarnished, it's often the case in such threads that people make that point clearly.. | |||
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"I think someone above said "it's a buyers market" and I couldn't agree more. From my time.im the forum I ha e learnt that the women in here are just bombarded with horrible shit. They are here for the same reasons as the men but the men don't receive the harassment they do so it is quite forgiveable for alot of the women folk to have poor opinions of men. The my main takeaway from this forum is that us men, collectively, need to do better! I don’t go for the “collectively” thing. Same as I don’t go for the sisterhood tosh. You are you, you do you. You’re not responsible for the actions of others. " I completely agree. I'm not going to represent all men just as I don't need others to "apologise" on behalf of all men for the shit behaviour. It's unfortunate that women receive abuse on here and I can sympathise, but I can only focus on my experience here and no amount of holding other men accountable is going to change their mind. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups." I am extremely polite and courteous and i don't deserve to be shamed, you make not like my sense of humour but thats your problem not mine | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups.I am extremely polite and courteous and i don't deserve to be shamed, you make not like my sense of humour but thats your problem not mine "may | |||
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"I think someone above said "it's a buyers market" and I couldn't agree more. From my time.im the forum I ha e learnt that the women in here are just bombarded with horrible shit. They are here for the same reasons as the men but the men don't receive the harassment they do so it is quite forgiveable for alot of the women folk to have poor opinions of men. The my main takeaway from this forum is that us men, collectively, need to do better! I don’t go for the “collectively” thing. Same as I don’t go for the sisterhood tosh. You are you, you do you. You’re not responsible for the actions of others. I completely agree. I'm not going to represent all men just as I don't need others to "apologise" on behalf of all men for the shit behaviour. It's unfortunate that women receive abuse on here and I can sympathise, but I can only focus on my experience here and no amount of holding other men accountable is going to change their mind." Exactly. It’s really not hard to work out who the good ones are. Not hard for me anyway. I can’t speak for others x | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups." The ones that are not shamed are either gay or went to the other camp disowning their own "gender" or are acting pathetic begging for a charity shag lol. Thinking that by being agreeable, cute and funny is gonna make them improve their already negligible chances. | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups. The ones that are not shamed are either gay or went to the other camp disowning their own "gender" or are acting pathetic begging for a charity shag lol. Thinking that by being agreeable, cute and funny is gonna make them improve their already negligible chances. " Ah, ok, so you aren’t a real man unless you’re being shamed for your behaviour? | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups. The ones that are not shamed are either gay or went to the other camp disowning their own "gender" or are acting pathetic begging for a charity shag lol. Thinking that by being agreeable, cute and funny is gonna make them improve their already negligible chances. Ah, ok, so you aren’t a real man unless you’re being shamed for your behaviour?" A real man tells the bitter truth even if it's gonna cost him not getting laid. What's pathetic is that most men in here don't realise that being cute is not gonna increase their chances. | |||
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"Men aren't vilified... Dickheads who deserve called out ..are called out I don't feel tarred with the actions of someone who's idea of communication with a woman is ...fancy a fuck...I'm at the travel lodge ...with a one like profile and a dick pic .. Sometimes it's just a white van parked up. "Ahh..but is it a nice van? | |||
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"I need to clarify that I don't agree with the title of this thread or the mantra that the bad ones ruin it for the rest of us. All this "them and us" BS is the biggest problem on this site because far too many people can't see passed the collective. Entitlement isn't gender specific. When a woman complains about some men joining the site and feeling entitled to sex that's a very true statement in many cases. When a man complains about some women having a sense of entitlement and expecting men to jump through hoops it's also a very true statement in many cases but it gets mocked and twisted as a preference. People seem to have forgotten how to speak to others as individuals. Some men speak to women as if they are all gagging for it while some women speak to men as if they are something they are scr*ping off their shoe. If those conversations take place within the walls of the forum the former usually causes everything to kick off and threads closed while the latter often isn't even acknowledged. When is is picked up by men there is a pile on by the usual suspects. When it is picked up by a handful of women who aren't afraid to speak out they are usually lone voices pissing in the wind. I also don't agree with the "real man" BS and never have done. Anyone paying attention will know that I don't blow smoke up anyone's hole on here but that doesn't make me a real man. It doesn't even make me a man. All it makes me is someone who speaks to everyone as an equal right up to the point where they don't reciprocate and then I just don't speak to them at all. For a site that is open to all genders and sexual orientations there are a hell of a lot of people carrying a hell of a lot of hatred for every orientation apart from their own and even then some who struggle to find anything they like about those they are trying to attract. " yes agreed | |||
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"Because that's how modern women are these days. Expect everything give nothing. If we don't thiz out the name calling starts. It'd the way they are. Oh my your inbox will be fit to burst
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"Because that's how modern women are these days. Expect everything give nothing. If we don't thiz out the name calling starts. It'd the way they are. Oh my your inbox will be fit to burst
How is that relevant? And what difference would it make to his inbox if he didn't state the truth that you hate to hear? Would that make you even notice him?
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"Because that's how modern women are these days. Expect everything give nothing. If we don't thiz out the name calling starts. It'd the way they are. Oh my your inbox will be fit to burst
How is that relevant? And what difference would it make to his inbox if he didn't state the truth that you hate to hear? Would that make you even notice him?
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"I need to clarify that I don't agree with the title of this thread or the mantra that the bad ones ruin it for the rest of us. All this "them and us" BS is the biggest problem on this site because far too many people can't see passed the collective. Entitlement isn't gender specific. When a woman complains about some men joining the site and feeling entitled to sex that's a very true statement in many cases. When a man complains about some women having a sense of entitlement and expecting men to jump through hoops it's also a very true statement in many cases but it gets mocked and twisted as a preference. People seem to have forgotten how to speak to others as individuals. Some men speak to women as if they are all gagging for it while some women speak to men as if they are something they are scr*ping off their shoe. If those conversations take place within the walls of the forum the former usually causes everything to kick off and threads closed while the latter often isn't even acknowledged. When is is picked up by men there is a pile on by the usual suspects. When it is picked up by a handful of women who aren't afraid to speak out they are usually lone voices pissing in the wind. I also don't agree with the "real man" BS and never have done. Anyone paying attention will know that I don't blow smoke up anyone's hole on here but that doesn't make me a real man. It doesn't even make me a man. All it makes me is someone who speaks to everyone as an equal right up to the point where they don't reciprocate and then I just don't speak to them at all. For a site that is open to all genders and sexual orientations there are a hell of a lot of people carrying a hell of a lot of hatred for every orientation apart from their own and even then some who struggle to find anything they like about those they are trying to attract. " I imagine the site world outside of the fora is a bit different. There's certainly a lot of hate and dislike in the fora on certain threads. Mocking is de rigeur and applauded by many like bullying school children. But.. It reflects more on those choosing to mock than those who contribute to an open debate in good faith. | |||
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"It’s not all men. But a vast majority on here ruin it for others. We do carpark meets. We normally want about five guys. We invite twelve. We have two show up. Everytime. " to the 10 that don't show up they must be either time wasters or absolutely stupid I mean you both look incredible | |||
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"I think someone above said "it's a buyers market" and I couldn't agree more. From my time.im the forum I ha e learnt that the women in here are just bombarded with horrible shit. They are here for the same reasons as the men but the men don't receive the harassment they do so it is quite forgiveable for alot of the women folk to have poor opinions of men. The my main takeaway from this forum is that us men, collectively, need to do better! I don’t go for the “collectively” thing. Same as I don’t go for the sisterhood tosh. You are you, you do you. You’re not responsible for the actions of others. " Yep this reply is spot on. | |||
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"Men aren't vilified... Dickheads who deserve called out ..are called out I don't feel tarred with the actions of someone who's idea of communication with a woman is ...fancy a fuck...I'm at the travel lodge ...with a one like profile and a dick pic .. Sometimes it's just a white van parked up.
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"I need to clarify that I don't agree with the title of this thread or the mantra that the bad ones ruin it for the rest of us. All this "them and us" BS is the biggest problem on this site because far too many people can't see passed the collective. Entitlement isn't gender specific. When a woman complains about some men joining the site and feeling entitled to sex that's a very true statement in many cases. When a man complains about some women having a sense of entitlement and expecting men to jump through hoops it's also a very true statement in many cases but it gets mocked and twisted as a preference. People seem to have forgotten how to speak to others as individuals. Some men speak to women as if they are all gagging for it while some women speak to men as if they are something they are scr*ping off their shoe. If those conversations take place within the walls of the forum the former usually causes everything to kick off and threads closed while the latter often isn't even acknowledged. When is is picked up by men there is a pile on by the usual suspects. When it is picked up by a handful of women who aren't afraid to speak out they are usually lone voices pissing in the wind. I also don't agree with the "real man" BS and never have done. Anyone paying attention will know that I don't blow smoke up anyone's hole on here but that doesn't make me a real man. It doesn't even make me a man. All it makes me is someone who speaks to everyone as an equal right up to the point where they don't reciprocate and then I just don't speak to them at all. For a site that is open to all genders and sexual orientations there are a hell of a lot of people carrying a hell of a lot of hatred for every orientation apart from their own and even then some who struggle to find anything they like about those they are trying to attract. " This | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! Or may be it's not the lack of trying every trick in the book, or being a good clown that makes women lough. It's just we live in a culture that has shamed men for being men and put them at a disadvantage. Fab is just a refection of how depressing life has become for men. There is a reason why men are 4 times more likely to commit sidyways despite their tough psychological nature. No one shames men for ‘being men’, they ‘shame’ men for poor behaviour. When some men are ‘shamed’ and some are not then it’s time to look at the differences in the behaviours of the two groups. The ones that are not shamed are either gay or went to the other camp disowning their own "gender" or are acting pathetic begging for a charity shag lol. Thinking that by being agreeable, cute and funny is gonna make them improve their already negligible chances. Ah, ok, so you aren’t a real man unless you’re being shamed for your behaviour? A real man tells the bitter truth even if it's gonna cost him not getting laid. What's pathetic is that most men in here don't realise that being cute is not gonna increase their chances. " Ah so they’re the sort of people who ‘tell it like it is’ and ‘call a spade a spade’? | |||
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"Men aren't vilified... Dickheads who deserve called out ..are called out I don't feel tarred with the actions of someone who's idea of communication with a woman is ...fancy a fuck...I'm at the travel lodge ...with a one like profile and a dick pic .. Sometimes it's just a white van parked up.
Ahh..but is it a nice van?
Wot, padded?
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Posh in these ere parts
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? " please don't try to bait me | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me" Why do you consider someone asking to say what the truths Tate and Peterson talk are, to be baiting you? | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me" I'm always interested in why men think Tate has something worthwhile to say. I might not agree but I have a son - I think it's important I understand the appeal. | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me Why do you consider someone asking to say what the truths Tate and Peterson talk are, to be baiting you?" The lobster has not yet been cooked so he is not at his full power | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me I'm always interested in why men think Tate has something worthwhile to say. I might not agree but I have a son - I think it's important I understand the appeal. " Tate doesn’t JP did before he went crazy the last few years | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me Why do you consider someone asking to say what the truths Tate and Peterson talk are, to be baiting you? The lobster has not yet been cooked so he is not at his full power" Is this code?  | |||
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"I have been on and off here and it always amazes me how men in here are vilified If there’s a thread that’s anti one group it’s normally about men. Whilst accepting that there are men that overstep can we not also accept that this can be a trait for all groups on here. If the site was ran that men couldn’t message anyone and the first interaction had to come from someone else do you think that would improve it? Personally whilst understanding that what some people say is way beyond a line please stop tarnishing all men or the majority of men as being the same Plane talk time… you are probably not going to like what’s coming… You are not the master of my fate on here and I am not the master of yours! If a person is an arse, then that person is an arse and no one else The “tarring everyone with the same brush” line is a kop out… what you are saying is that you are blameless and it’s all those nasty pasty’s fault!!! Bullshit! Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and as yourself “what can I do to improve myself!” “How can I make myself standout from A.N.Other!” “What is my unique selling point!” Give people a reason to say “ oh my goodness I just have to meet that person!” Sometimes you have to be able to sell yourself to “sell yourself!” If you can’t do that, no one else is going to be able to do that for you! Who knows you better than you!” Have you thought about what you have written, have you thought about how you present yourself ect ect …. I’m a great believer in that you only get one chance to make a great first impression…. What impression would this give? Because I don’t think moaning is a particularly sexy trait…. Think of it like this…some people like to jump in with both feet and just get wet, but sometimes it’s wiser to just stick a toe into the water and get a better feel for the land! " yo this man speaks facts !!! | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions” "Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible. | |||
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"Or it's just an opinion on a public thread which he's entitled to express? " Of course. But maybe don't he didn't need to accuse me of baiting him by asking a polite question? | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible."wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade | |||
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade "My Nan had blue hair
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade
My Nan had blue hair
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade
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Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible."
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade
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I miss when Nanas used to have blue hair
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"I'm more inclined to listen to Jordan Peterson over Andrew Tate , but they both talk truths What are the truths? please don't try to bait me “Please don’t try to make me back up my opinion with facts, I don’t deal in facts I deal in baseless opinions”
Or, the things he agrees with aren’t facts and are pretty horrible.wrong ! He talks about men building themselves up , I don't agree with how he sees women but I do agree with his take on modern men being weak and needing to snap out of it , and the utter stupidity of the pronoun game that's becoming unbearable in recent years from the blue hair brigade "How are modern men weak? Talking about their feelings? Being open with their friends and partners? Treating women as equals? You can’t just say “wrong” and then provide the flimsiest explanation ever | |||
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