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By *omRachCouple 47 weeks ago
Wirral |
I love banter and the back and forthing it often brings and I think at times I may sometimes push a little too far so I have to be very aware - especially at work as I am part of a team that is 85% female.
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By *ty31Man 47 weeks ago
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Maybe it's just changed?
People used to learn to banter in pubs and face to face at work, now a lot of stuff had moved online?
Plus the internet never forgets so people need to be a bit more careful what they do say? |
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Yes it is a dying art, too many snowflakes and too many that don't understand,or know, how to ensure "banter" doesn't turn into something perceived as NOT "banter"...it's a very fine line in these modern,sensitive times.
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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I think people just banter differently now. Banter is probably a lot more reliant on developed relationships now than before and probably avoid certain topics but it’s still out there. |
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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I don’t think it is. Me and my friends all relentlessly take the piss out of each other but at the same time we know when we’ve crossed the line and when to back off. |
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Banter v having a laugh together. ?
Is there a difference? If you make someone upset, They probably didn’t take it as banter.
There’s a fine line you tread when ‘ribbing’ your mates and I certainly wouldn’t try it with people I don’t know well enough, and I think that good advice to take with you when posting or replying on forums. |
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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Banter is more difficult online than face to face. With face to face you have body language and tone of voice that is lost online.
I'm an old fashioned guy who prefers a face to face chat. |
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I think like with every generation banter changes, I have different friends of different ages and the banter is very different. I wouldn’t say less enjoyable but it’s different and some things that some groups find acceptable others don’t.
But then I like having a variety of different friends and people in my life, it’s why I’m on fab, to find folk that are likeminded to spend time with! |
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Most banter is just simply boundary testing. See if someone is up for it.
That's why they're banning it in the workplace.
People just get fed up with it as it gets tiring listening to someone's endless barrage of chat up.
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Banter ' a too and forth between friends who are ALL enjoying the laughs' still exists.
What used to masquerade as banter is disappearing and so it should ....
Too many people hid their racism, sexism, ageism , misogyny, homophobia , ableism , religious hatred and just plain passive aggressive nastiness behind the word banter..... we are slowly learning the difference.
people can see through the ..... it's just banter mate....... it was just a joke .... it doesn't wash any more.
Banter yes, thinly disguised prejudice ......no |
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"Banter ' a too and forth between friends who are ALL enjoying the laughs' still exists.
What used to masquerade as banter is disappearing and so it should ....
Too many people hid their racism, sexism, ageism , misogyny, homophobia , ableism , religious hatred and just plain passive aggressive nastiness behind the word banter..... we are slowly learning the difference.
people can see through the ..... it's just banter mate....... it was just a joke .... it doesn't wash any more.
Banter yes, thinly disguised prejudice ......no "
What if you’ve never disguised your prejudices, is it still ok to crack on.  |
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"Banter ' a too and forth between friends who are ALL enjoying the laughs' still exists.
What used to masquerade as banter is disappearing and so it should ....
Too many people hid their racism, sexism, ageism , misogyny, homophobia , ableism , religious hatred and just plain passive aggressive nastiness behind the word banter..... we are slowly learning the difference.
people can see through the ..... it's just banter mate....... it was just a joke .... it doesn't wash any more.
Banter yes, thinly disguised prejudice ......no
What if you’ve never disguised your prejudices, is it still ok to crack on. "
Ha! I'd say it's better than being a passive aggressive coward ..... nailing your colours to the mast and having your voice heard. Depends what is said and how it's said I guess... you beardy bugger. |
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"Banter ' a too and forth between friends who are ALL enjoying the laughs' still exists.
What used to masquerade as banter is disappearing and so it should ....
Too many people hid their racism, sexism, ageism , misogyny, homophobia , ableism , religious hatred and just plain passive aggressive nastiness behind the word banter..... we are slowly learning the difference.
people can see through the ..... it's just banter mate....... it was just a joke .... it doesn't wash any more.
Banter yes, thinly disguised prejudice ......no
What if you’ve never disguised your prejudices, is it still ok to crack on.
Ha! I'd say it's better than being a passive aggressive coward ..... nailing your colours to the mast and having your voice heard. Depends what is said and how it's said I guess... you beardy bugger."
Oh it’s always in the best possible taste Granny, would I ever do otherwise ?  |
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With strangers it's a lot more difficult for sure.
Plus a lot of interactions are online or text form these days and the tone and context of a message can be misunderstood a lot easier than it is face to face.
I wouldn't ever indulge in personal banter except with people I know well these days, it's just not worth any drama.
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English wit is getting misunderstood. American values have taken route and people have now decided that looking at someone in the wrong way is a sue-able offence. Freedom of speech has all but disappeared. This country is every other country apart from England. I’m saying it as I see it. Hear it and feel it. Am I wrong? |
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"Or have people become to sensitive . "
Hopefully it is yes. It's not about being sensitive it's just very often people use the word banter as an excuse for bullying or attacking someone else and they think they are being funny.
Throwing insults at strangers isn't banter.
Conversation and witty exchanges is human and I agree it should be maintained as often we forget how to be with other people with so much of our interactions being digitized now.
And yes some people do take offence very easily and often on behalf of others and that is very stifling but is a separate issue in my opinion.
So I guess it depends on how you define banter and who it is between.
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
Hopefully it is yes. It's not about being sensitive it's just very often people use the word banter as an excuse for bullying or attacking someone else and they think they are being funny.
Throwing insults at strangers isn't banter.
Conversation and witty exchanges is human and I agree it should be maintained as often we forget how to be with other people with so much of our interactions being digitized now.
And yes some people do take offence very easily and often on behalf of others and that is very stifling but is a separate issue in my opinion.
So I guess it depends on how you define banter and who it is between.
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Some people are easily offended. Some people seem to think being offensive is the same as having a sense of humour.
Intent and interpretation varies.
I thoroughly enjoy bantering with friends and people I know casually.
I fucking loathe when people behave like just being unpleasant to strangers is some kind of witty banter 💜 |
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No it isn't. Piss taking is a love language within my family, relationships and most of my friendships. Some people just use the word banter as an excuse to be cruel. It's supposed to be friendly, not real digs disguised as a joke or used to poke at people's insecurities. Even worse are those who use "banter" as a cover for being bigoted. |
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"No it isn't. Piss taking is a love language within my family, relationships and most of my friendships. Some people just use the word banter as an excuse to be cruel. It's supposed to be friendly, not real digs disguised as a joke or used to poke at people's insecurities. Even worse are those who use "banter" as a cover for being bigoted."
Said it much better than I tried. |
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"With everyone being so easily offended these days I’d say banter is more frowned upon than it was, especially in the workplace and that pisses me off. 1/3rd of your day is spent at work and you can’t even have a proper laugh 🤷♂️
And I’m the boss "
Or are you just a chilled out entertainer? |
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"With everyone being so easily offended these days I’d say banter is more frowned upon than it was, especially in the workplace and that pisses me off. 1/3rd of your day is spent at work and you can’t even have a proper laugh 🤷♂️
And I’m the boss "
Of course you can. |
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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Seriously, before I started my own business I worked for a company for 10yrs and men, grown ass fucking men of my age, would go crying to HR over a bit of piss taking 🤦♂️ |
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Sadly, lots of people think "banter" is just free reign to be a cunt and when someone doesn't find their toxicity funny they get "it's just banter, lighten up"
I love a humourous back and forth, I have a dark sense of humour and I'm not easily offended. But I don't find lazy misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc funny 🤷🏻♀️ |
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By definition, "banter" is a friendly, if brusque chat with someone you know that may become rambunctious and ribald because you are familiar with each other's boundaries.
You cannot "banter" with a stranger. This is not a woke opinion. When I was raised in the 70s and 80s, familiarity had to be earned rather than assumed.
Now you can TRY and assume familiarity. Nowadays you may get cancelled. But in my era, you tended to get slapped or filled in.
TL:DR Don't squeeze a stranger's tits and then claim, "it was just fun". We don't do that now. Donald. |
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"Sadly, lots of people think "banter" is just free reign to be a cunt and when someone doesn't find their toxicity funny they get "it's just banter, lighten up"
I love a humourous back and forth, I have a dark sense of humour and I'm not easily offended. But I don't find lazy misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc funny 🤷🏻♀️"
Yep
I can give and take a bit of friendly banter and slagging, it was definitely an artform in Dublin where I grew up and the quick wit could leave you in convulsions laughing. But friendly is the operative word. If it's intended to belittle, hurt or shut someone down it's just meanness and not funny at all. |
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There's a line between banter and using jokes to slate someone. Most 'banter' isn't good humour, it's from one person about another, with the other person (for some reason) thinking they are making cute comments.
When you're putting someone down and laughing at their expense you've got to be able to take as much as you give, which I can guarantee the majority of guys can't - they'd take it personal, feel shit about, end up in a row or fight about. |
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"Sadly, lots of people think "banter" is just free reign to be a cunt and when someone doesn't find their toxicity funny they get "it's just banter, lighten up"
I love a humourous back and forth, I have a dark sense of humour and I'm not easily offended. But I don't find lazy misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc funny 🤷🏻♀️"
Lazy comedy stuff is terrible.
Clever comments that deliberately challenge a world view are worthwhile.
But either way, you go to an office to work, not to get chatted up. Time and a place applies. If you get offended at a comedy club, you voluntarily paid to go there, so get over it.
At the office, you are not getting paid enough to have Derek hover around every morning and then have him hotdesk next to you whilst you grin and dig a biro into the back of your hand under the desk. |
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"English wit is getting misunderstood. American values have taken route and people have now decided that looking at someone in the wrong way is a sue-able offence. Freedom of speech has all but disappeared. This country is every other country apart from England. I’m saying it as I see it. Hear it and feel it. Am I wrong?"
In every word and thought. Yes. |
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By *rad670Man 47 weeks ago
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Banter is difficult now moreso when you don't really know someone well enough and especially difficult in messages, so many things can be taken wrong that people are afraid of starting to banter. |
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"People need to get a sense of humour
So many woke snowflake miserable bastards these days "
On the contrary , those who moan about not being able to bully are the ones who dont know what humour is. |
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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"Banter is more difficult online than face to face. With face to face you have body language and tone of voice that is lost online.
I'm an old fashioned guy who prefers a face to face chat."
I agree with this, I can be a bit witty and dry at times and sometimes it can be read the wrong way online.... definitely better face to face in that sense. |
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I prefer lighthearted tittle-tattle or a tête-à-tête, sometimes a persiflage exchange of endless mockery — especially during courtship or woo'ing.
I'm not a fan of banter, innit. It reminds me of "bantha fodder" from Star Wars. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 47 weeks ago
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It's important to know your audience.
Your family and close friends will know you, your sense of humour and your personality, as well as your general attitude to certain topics and beliefs. They'll most likely know the difference when something is said in jest and food humour, with no motive or intention to cause offence or upset.
Total strangers won't. You may come across as offensive, unsympathetic, bigoted, and any semblance of humour can go out the window and be replaces by thinly camouflaged abuse and piss taking.
Which of course can be the intention in the first place. 🤷♂️ |
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I love the banter that I have between myself and my friends however, I've seen how insults and abuse have been have been given to others and explained (by the perpetrators as simple being banter ("oh, it was only bants"); this isn't people being sensitive this is people being victims.
Banter is fun, insults and abuse isn't banter. |
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"Seriously, before I started my own business I worked for a company for 10yrs and men, grown ass fucking men of my age, would go crying to HR over a bit of piss taking 🤦♂️"
And? Stop bullying them and maybe they will do their work instead? |
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"Sadly, lots of people think "banter" is just free reign to be a cunt and when someone doesn't find their toxicity funny they get "it's just banter, lighten up"
I love a humourous back and forth, I have a dark sense of humour and I'm not easily offended. But I don't find lazy misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc funny 🤷🏻♀️"
Absolutely bang on |
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"Seriously, before I started my own business I worked for a company for 10yrs and men, grown ass fucking men of my age, would go crying to HR over a bit of piss taking 🤦♂️"
One mans piss taking is another mans bullying. Surely you understand that and where the line is?
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By *ugby 123Couple 47 weeks ago
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"Seriously, before I started my own business I worked for a company for 10yrs and men, grown ass fucking men of my age, would go crying to HR over a bit of piss taking 🤦♂️
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A good piss taker would know when to stop, for example when the piss taking isn't going down well or isn't appropriate.
You see it loads on here and if that person says stop, they get told they have no sense of humour. You also get lots of people having digs at others and excusing it as "banter" Maybe the person went to the HR for one of these reasons |
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"When you think you're being so very funny with your banter and everyone else isn't laughing. Maybe pause for a moments thought and where the issue might really be. "
Then they still wouldn't see an issue....Just write everyone else off as miserable, un humorous, sensitive snowflakes  |
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"For the people saying banter isn't allowed any more because others are too sensitive, what type of banter are you talking about?"
Any banter, any joke, just anything in general, I don't joke about anything in front of anyone I don't know, the world is way too sensitive now. |
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I think people have become too sensitive. The ones complaining that they can no longer make racist, ablist, mysoginist and any other ist you care to mention comments. The ones who think it's hilarious to bully youngsters in the work place or people who are a bit vulnerable. It's those people who have been operating under the 'its all a hilarious joke, you just don't have a sense of humour' excuse, they're the only ones upset by anyone asking them to stop. |
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F. "
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
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It's all about common sense. I know who I can and can't have a laugh with. I know what I can and can't say to people.
Calling people snowflakes because your black workmate doesn't want to be called chalky any more is a load of ballix.
I have mates I can say pretty much anything to, and ones who weren't brought up in the same sort of area as meant don't understand. |
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"For the people saying banter isn't allowed any more because others are too sensitive, what type of banter are you talking about?
Any banter, any joke, just anything in general, I don't joke about anything in front of anyone I don't know, the world is way too sensitive now. "
Anything at all? |
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback "
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that? |
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By *bi HaiveMan 47 weeks ago
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that? "
Guess it depends on the content of the article. 🤷♂️ |
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that? "
Best he gets his union involved or at least asks for a formal investigation so HR can interview witnesses. That way he can have the formal warning removed from his file as from what you've said they didn't follow procedure. |
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that?
Guess it depends on the content of the article. 🤷♂️"
I asked that, it was the Daily Mirror so I'm confident it wasn't anything major 🤦♂️ |
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By *bi HaiveMan 47 weeks ago
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that?
Guess it depends on the content of the article. 🤷♂️
I asked that, it was the Daily Mirror so I'm confident it wasn't anything major 🤦♂️"
The Mirror publishes some pretty offensive stuff regularly tbh. If someone was laughing and joking about an article then it's more than possible that there was also chat/conversation on the subject that could easily be deemed offensive/abusive. 🤷♂️
Definitely not beyond the realms of possibility. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 47 weeks ago
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"Or have people become to sensitive .
I Just don't do it anymore, people are way too sensitive these days, sod that!
Mr F.
Give us a couple of examples - within site rules - of what you'd consider funny banter...
We can give you feedback
Guy at work laughing about a newspaper article with his mates, some sensitive soul walks in and didn't like the newspaper article he was laughing about and he was reported.
He's been up in front of HR for a formal warning!
As I said, too many sensitive souls in the world.
Explain the logic in that?
Guess it depends on the content of the article. 🤷♂️
I asked that, it was the Daily Mirror so I'm confident it wasn't anything major 🤦♂️
The Mirror publishes some pretty offensive stuff regularly tbh. If someone was laughing and joking about an article then it's more than possible that there was also chat/conversation on the subject that could easily be deemed offensive/abusive. 🤷♂️
Definitely not beyond the realms of possibility. "
For context just look at the comments section of any Mirror article on Facey.
Plenty of the remarks made on there are from people hiding behind anonymous profiles because if they said what they do in a workplace environment you can guarantee they'd be hauled in front of HR. |
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By *istalloverCouple 47 weeks ago
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Banter was in every workplace and a bit of fun to help the working week go quicker
Nowadays.
People are too sensitive,scared for their jobs . a bit of banter can get you the sack nowadays .
If you sent a trainee for a long weight or a spirit level bubble ,filopean tube etcetera. Its Banter
If the trainee was Asian or ethnic or female its then become racist or sextet .
That's why there's no fekkin banter
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By *ugby 123Couple 47 weeks ago
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"For the people saying banter isn't allowed any more because others are too sensitive, what type of banter are you talking about?
Any banter, any joke, just anything in general, I don't joke about anything in front of anyone I don't know, the world is way too sensitive now. "
Sorry I should have said, what subject of banter offends people? |
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"Banter was in every workplace and a bit of fun to help the working week go quicker
Nowadays.
People are too sensitive,scared for their jobs . a bit of banter can get you the sack nowadays .
If you sent a trainee for a long weight or a spirit level bubble ,filopean tube etcetera. Its Banter
If the trainee was Asian or ethnic or female its then become racist or sextet .
That's why there's no fekkin banter
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I think there are two distinct issues there. One is banter, whatever that is defined as... If however funny and harmless you think you are is being received as offensive... Whether you think it's right or wrong.. Its not banter.
The second is a nuch bigger and wider issue upon which I agree. The insidious leaching into our society and workplace of gratuitous offence taking, of minorities ruling what majorities do, the law cases, the money being made, the over sensitivity (the nhs fife case is a great example) certainly needs to be addressed. It's paralysing and needless. Life's unfair and no amount of legislation will make it so. |
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"Banter was in every workplace and a bit of fun to help the working week go quicker
Nowadays.
People are too sensitive,scared for their jobs . a bit of banter can get you the sack nowadays .
If you sent a trainee for a long weight or a spirit level bubble ,filopean tube etcetera. Its Banter
If the trainee was Asian or ethnic or female its then become racist or sextet .
That's why there's no fekkin banter
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I seriously doubt you'd know the difference between banter and sextetism |
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The source of the banter doesn't get to decide what someone else finds offensive or inappropriate.
It should be obvious anyway, if it isn't then the problem is entirely the source of the so-called banter, not the person on the end of it. |
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I think we have made men afraid now. Really. Was talking and couple years ago he would have been all over me. He still did but he couldn't say what he used to. I felt sorry for him were not strangers but it's weired. Are we not allowed to be chatted up anymore by our own people? That's sad x |
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By *ucka39Man 47 weeks ago
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Technically banter is an art which can take some skill so it doesn't offend and is purely humour without any judgement and doesn't involve taking the piss out of anyone as that isn't banter more like bullying but having a sense of humour whether dark dry or just slick 😝 is smooth |
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It's not something I engage in nor enjoy.
Fundamentally, I don't see the point of it.
If someone said something profound or meaningful, that would engage me, but banter (when it's not covert bullying and thinly-veiled nastiness) is of little merit or worth, I have found. |
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