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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ?" There are privacy implications with the law. Consider what would happen if sensitive information gets leaked. Big Brother Watch, which I support, has spoken about this. Those with such concerns are using VPNs. I understand why some people support age verification laws, but another thing to remember is that it’s open to abuse by governments. Slippery slope comes to mind. | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? There are privacy implications with the law. Consider what would happen if sensitive information gets leaked. Big Brother Watch, which I support, has spoken about this. Those with such concerns are using VPNs. I understand why some people support age verification laws, but another thing to remember is that it’s open to abuse by governments. Slippery slope comes to mind." I don’t think the governments wants to just limit it to adult websites. Look at what is happening in other countries. One must ask why governments worldwide are enacting almost identical legislation at the same time. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorists to notice that something isn’t right. Aren’t our governments supposed to all be independent of one another? No one even mentions where all of this age verification for adult content is coming from. | |||
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"Do you have to do it every time you log in?" So far no | |||
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"Do you have to do it every time you log in?" I think it depends on what verification you’re using, | |||
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"Do you have to do it every time you log in? So far no " But yes for each individual site? | |||
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"Do you have to do it every time you log in? So far no But yes for each individual site?" Correct, unless you are using a VPN. | |||
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"Do you have to do it every time you log in? So far no But yes for each individual site?" Yeah for each individual site you’ll have to do verify but once you’ve done it for that site you’ll don’t have to do it again | |||
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"I don’t know why everyone is getting in a tither. It’s not like you have to hand over your Passport deets or anything. I assume paying for site supporter by card is ID enough? So that’s straight forward enough. Maybe it’s the secretly attached that are worrying? In case the partner gets wind? 🤔" That and from what I can gather many are worried about a data breach! I think it’s a good thing. | |||
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"I don’t know why everyone is getting in a tither. It’s not like you have to hand over your Passport deets or anything. I assume paying for site supporter by card is ID enough? So that’s straight forward enough. Maybe it’s the secretly attached that are worrying? In case the partner gets wind? 🤔" Have you not looked at the privacy implications? Might I suggest you check out the Big Brother Watch website for more info? I am not secretly attracted. Just someone who believes in the right to online privacy. | |||
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"Wait what's happened?" People are getting really upset because of a system designed to keep kids safe, clearly their needs for porn are more important than keeping kids safe. And it didn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to start their mind control nonsense. | |||
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"Wait what's happened? People are getting really upset because of a system designed to keep kids safe, clearly their needs for porn are more important than keeping kids safe. And it didn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to start their mind control nonsense. " 😂😂 | |||
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"I don’t know why everyone is getting in a tither. It’s not like you have to hand over your Passport deets or anything. I assume paying for site supporter by card is ID enough? So that’s straight forward enough. Maybe it’s the secretly attached that are worrying? In case the partner gets wind? 🤔 That and from what I can gather many are worried about a data breach! I think it’s a good thing." What data, I had to do a quick scan of my face on one to prove im an old fuck and done. They're not asking for the kitchen sink and your inside leg measurement | |||
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"Wait what's happened? People are getting really upset because of a system designed to keep kids safe, clearly their needs for porn are more important than keeping kids safe. And it didn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to start their mind control nonsense. " Oh yes. The government really cares about protecting kids (sarcasm). I suppose you believe everything the man on the television tells you? | |||
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"I don’t know why everyone is getting in a tither. It’s not like you have to hand over your Passport deets or anything. I assume paying for site supporter by card is ID enough? So that’s straight forward enough. Maybe it’s the secretly attached that are worrying? In case the partner gets wind? 🤔 That and from what I can gather many are worried about a data breach! I think it’s a good thing. What data, I had to do a quick scan of my face on one to prove im an old fuck and done. They're not asking for the kitchen sink and your inside leg measurement " Agreed! | |||
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"Wait what's happened? People are getting really upset because of a system designed to keep kids safe, clearly their needs for porn are more important than keeping kids safe. And it didn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to start their mind control nonsense. Oh yes. The government really cares about protecting kids (sarcasm). I suppose you believe everything the man on the television tells you? " Remind me, how many politicians have abused children and how many coverups have there been? I’ve lost count. | |||
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"I hope the mods will start shutting down these thread's as they are just repeating the same thing. I'm just going to ignore them now as it's not worth the effort." I think that’s the best thing to do! People will get bored of posting the same things soon | |||
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"Oh dear God. It looks like much work needs to be done on educating adults on privacy implications. " If you own a smartphone you have no real privacy.... i googled whsmiths to find the nearest one where I was, every social media app I opened had ads for them then.....ooh big brother is watching! You watch porn so what, unless you're doing illegal fucked up shit you have no reason to be bothered about it all | |||
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"Wait what's happened? People are getting really upset because of a system designed to keep kids safe, clearly their needs for porn are more important than keeping kids safe. And it didn't take long for the conspiracy theorists to start their mind control nonsense. Oh yes. The government really cares about protecting kids (sarcasm). I suppose you believe everything the man on the television tells you? Remind me, how many politicians have abused children and how many coverups have there been? I’ve lost count. " I was r*ped as a child and have fought all of my adult life to protect children, volunteering thousands of hours of my time. Porn is clearly not as important to me as that. | |||
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"Oh dear God. It looks like much work needs to be done on educating adults on privacy implications. If you own a smartphone you have no real privacy.... i googled whsmiths to find the nearest one where I was, every social media app I opened had ads for them then.....ooh big brother is watching! You watch porn so what, unless you're doing illegal fucked up shit you have no reason to be bothered about it all" Couldn’t agree more ^^^^^^ | |||
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"Oh dear God. It looks like much work needs to be done on educating adults on privacy implications. If you own a smartphone you have no real privacy.... i googled whsmiths to find the nearest one where I was, every social media app I opened had ads for them then.....ooh big brother is watching! You watch porn so what, unless you're doing illegal fucked up shit you have no reason to be bothered about it all" I have a degoogled phone. There’s no way I would go back to a regular smart phone. | |||
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"I don’t know why everyone is getting in a tither. It’s not like you have to hand over your Passport deets or anything. I assume paying for site supporter by card is ID enough? So that’s straight forward enough. Maybe it’s the secretly attached that are worrying? In case the partner gets wind? 🤔 Have you not looked at the privacy implications? Might I suggest you check out the Big Brother Watch website for more info? I am not secretly attracted. Just someone who believes in the right to online privacy. " No, because like most people, I use loads of online services — my details are already out there. If privacy’s really the concern, then I assume folk are also avoiding Amazon, eBay, and their NHS login, yeah? Unless someone’s browsing adult content on a burner phone from a cave with a VPN, this feels less like a privacy crusade and more like people are just worried their browser history might come back to bite them on their arse! | |||
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"Oh dear God. It looks like much work needs to be done on educating adults on privacy implications. If you own a smartphone you have no real privacy.... i googled whsmiths to find the nearest one where I was, every social media app I opened had ads for them then.....ooh big brother is watching! You watch porn so what, unless you're doing illegal fucked up shit you have no reason to be bothered about it all I have a degoogled phone. There’s no way I would go back to a regular smart phone. " You do know its not just Google its any Internet browser/platform | |||
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"I hope the mods will start shutting down these thread's as they are just repeating the same thing. I'm just going to ignore them now as it's not worth the effort." Why stop discussion? Respectfully, you’ve only given your opinion and have not commented on the legitimate and factual concerns made. Perhaps tech isn’t your strong point. Anyway, have a nice day | |||
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"Does anyone read alllll the small print when signing things? Do you reqs all the t&cs when accessing websites etc " They probably have so data of mine it’s insane 😅😂 | |||
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"There’s so many ways they can get your information easily! Remember the NHS Covid passport? You had to give information and ID and all sorts for that " Why make it even easier? Stripping away every single aspect of privacy isn’t a good thing. Oh, I didn’t get a Covid passport. | |||
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"Oh dear God. It looks like much work needs to be done on educating adults on privacy implications. If you own a smartphone you have no real privacy.... i googled whsmiths to find the nearest one where I was, every social media app I opened had ads for them then.....ooh big brother is watching! You watch porn so what, unless you're doing illegal fucked up shit you have no reason to be bothered about it all I have a degoogled phone. There’s no way I would go back to a regular smart phone. You do know its not just Google its any Internet browser/platform " Yes. I don’t use Google anyway. It harvests too much data. Like everything, there are ways round it. | |||
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"There’s so many ways they can get your information easily! Remember the NHS Covid passport? You had to give information and ID and all sorts for that Why make it even easier? Stripping away every single aspect of privacy isn’t a good thing. Oh, I didn’t get a Covid passport. " As long as you’re not doing anything illegal then you’ll be alright! It’s to protect children from viewing porn! And it’s a good thing porn teaches kids especially boys the wrong side of sex | |||
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"People on x aren't happy. There's no verification on there. It's just a complete blockage" Is anyone on X happy these days? | |||
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"There’s so many ways they can get your information easily! Remember the NHS Covid passport? You had to give information and ID and all sorts for that Why make it even easier? Stripping away every single aspect of privacy isn’t a good thing. Oh, I didn’t get a Covid passport. As long as you’re not doing anything illegal then you’ll be alright! It’s to protect children from viewing porn! And it’s a good thing porn teaches kids especially boys the wrong side of sex " Of course I don’t watch anything illegal. How do you know it’s to protect children and not to increase surveillance? It’s interesting that anything relating to “protecting children” or “terrorism” involves increasing surveillance powers for the state. Would you like us to end up like China? | |||
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"There’s so many ways they can get your information easily! Remember the NHS Covid passport? You had to give information and ID and all sorts for that Why make it even easier? Stripping away every single aspect of privacy isn’t a good thing. Oh, I didn’t get a Covid passport. As long as you’re not doing anything illegal then you’ll be alright! It’s to protect children from viewing porn! And it’s a good thing porn teaches kids especially boys the wrong side of sex Of course I don’t watch anything illegal. How do you know it’s to protect children and not to increase surveillance? It’s interesting that anything relating to “protecting children” or “terrorism” involves increasing surveillance powers for the state. Would you like us to end up like China? " I thought there would be more libertarians on a website like this. You learn something new every day. | |||
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"People on x aren't happy. There's no verification on there. It's just a complete blockage Is anyone on X happy these days?" Nope, lol. I took a break from there. It is too toxic at times. | |||
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"There’s so many ways they can get your information easily! Remember the NHS Covid passport? You had to give information and ID and all sorts for that Why make it even easier? Stripping away every single aspect of privacy isn’t a good thing. Oh, I didn’t get a Covid passport. As long as you’re not doing anything illegal then you’ll be alright! It’s to protect children from viewing porn! And it’s a good thing porn teaches kids especially boys the wrong side of sex " I can agree with you on the importance of teaching kids what is acceptable and what isn’t. We just disagree on how it is done. Too many boys are watching stuff that is f*cked up. Education is key. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ " Finally, someone who gets it. Thank you. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ " Don't most of us already have a digital ID?... It's not like up until this point I've never had to put in my details for anything online | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ " Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Don't most of us already have a digital ID?... It's not like up until this point I've never had to put in my details for anything online" Most of us don’t have everything stored on a central database, so easily accessed by the Government and other authorities, opened to abuse and overreach. If you want to know how a fully implemented Digital ID system works, speak to someone in China. We fought long and hard in this country to abolish ID cards, which people were required to have. Never did I think things would become so regressive. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause!" Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Don't most of us already have a digital ID?... It's not like up until this point I've never had to put in my details for anything online Most of us don’t have everything stored on a central database, so easily accessed by the Government and other authorities, opened to abuse and overreach. If you want to know how a fully implemented Digital ID system works, speak to someone in China. We fought long and hard in this country to abolish ID cards, which people were required to have. Never did I think things would become so regressive. " But PornHub will be the central database easily accessed by the government and other authorities? Not something like .GOV | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. " Freedom of speech is under threat. I live in Scotland, and we have some of the most restrictions on it in Europe. A recent law made it even worse. | |||
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"I'm always curious when people start shouting about invasion of privacy and big brother government agencies. There was lots of whining about having photos on driving licences 10 or 15 years ago and yet here in Northern Ireland we've had those for at least 4 generations. I still have my dad's licence from the early 70s with his photo on it. Every flight from the island of Ireland North and South into the UK went through a separate gate to every other flight from around the world and photos were taken at the airport of all Irish travellers going back to the 90s if not before. I don't remember too many people outside of Ireland whinging and moaning about invasion of privacy or about governments having everyone's personal details on file. For that reason when the conspiracy theorists appear on fab and social media my immediate reaction is "suck it up and give your head a wobble"." Non sequitur. It’s so easily to smear others as “conspiracy theorists” instead of addressing the points made. Congrats. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Don't most of us already have a digital ID?... It's not like up until this point I've never had to put in my details for anything online Most of us don’t have everything stored on a central database, so easily accessed by the Government and other authorities, opened to abuse and overreach. If you want to know how a fully implemented Digital ID system works, speak to someone in China. We fought long and hard in this country to abolish ID cards, which people were required to have. Never did I think things would become so regressive. But PornHub will be the central database easily accessed by the government and other authorities? Not something like .GOV" It will, if Digital ID is fully implemented. The current Labour Government has announced such plans. | |||
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"I'm always curious when people start shouting about invasion of privacy and big brother government agencies. There was lots of whining about having photos on driving licences 10 or 15 years ago and yet here in Northern Ireland we've had those for at least 4 generations. I still have my dad's licence from the early 70s with his photo on it. Every flight from the island of Ireland North and South into the UK went through a separate gate to every other flight from around the world and photos were taken at the airport of all Irish travellers going back to the 90s if not before. I don't remember too many people outside of Ireland whinging and moaning about invasion of privacy or about governments having everyone's personal details on file. For that reason when the conspiracy theorists appear on fab and social media my immediate reaction is "suck it up and give your head a wobble". Non sequitur. It’s so easily to smear others as “conspiracy theorists” instead of addressing the points made. Congrats. You don't have a point so there's nothing to address. I have addressed the arguments against age verification on many of the other threads that are on here and there is no valid counter argument against it. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ " Oh no my employer is going to horrified I like to have sex with other consenting adults oh the scandal 😱 How the hell would that affect a crb/dbs check for child welfare jeeeez! | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Don't most of us already have a digital ID?... It's not like up until this point I've never had to put in my details for anything online Most of us don’t have everything stored on a central database, so easily accessed by the Government and other authorities, opened to abuse and overreach. If you want to know how a fully implemented Digital ID system works, speak to someone in China. We fought long and hard in this country to abolish ID cards, which people were required to have. Never did I think things would become so regressive. But PornHub will be the central database easily accessed by the government and other authorities? Not something like .GOV It will, if Digital ID is fully implemented. The current Labour Government has announced such plans. " The complications relating to age verification and digital ID can be difficult for a lot of people to understand. Big Brother Watch and other privacy organisations explains it well on their websites, for those interested in educating themselves on such matters. People live busy lives, I don’t really blame them for not knowing the ins-and-outs. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. " | |||
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"I'm always curious when people start shouting about invasion of privacy and big brother government agencies. There was lots of whining about having photos on driving licences 10 or 15 years ago and yet here in Northern Ireland we've had those for at least 4 generations. I still have my dad's licence from the early 70s with his photo on it. Every flight from the island of Ireland North and South into the UK went through a separate gate to every other flight from around the world and photos were taken at the airport of all Irish travellers going back to the 90s if not before. I don't remember too many people outside of Ireland whinging and moaning about invasion of privacy or about governments having everyone's personal details on file. For that reason when the conspiracy theorists appear on fab and social media my immediate reaction is "suck it up and give your head a wobble". Non sequitur. It’s so easily to smear others as “conspiracy theorists” instead of addressing the points made. Congrats. I have made several points, if you care to look, and don't have the time to look through all your threads. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. It is not a deflection tactic. A significant percentage of the public work for the government in some capacity. Have you ever been arrested for being on the wrong side of the government, which you appear to trust so much? | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. Age verification is a gateway to authoritarian control. Government ministers have already stated that they wish to add mire amendments to the Online Safety Act, because “It doesn’t go far enough”. Australia stated with porn, now they want to add it for all search engines and social media. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. No, I’ve never been arrested. Last time I checked disagreeing with porn site age checks isn’t exactly a revolutionary act, although I could be wrong. And not buying into your government paranoia doesn’t mean I trust them. It just means I’m not treating this like the start of 1984. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. Perhaps you’d have a different opinion, if like me, you were arrested, had your home raided and got regularly interrogated at airports. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. You trust the Government enough not to abuse the powers it now has. Governments change every few years. What happens, if for instance, a deeply authoritarian government came to power? | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. That’s your experience and you’re obviously very committed to your view. I don’t think it’s relevant to this particular discussion about age verification, however unpleasant it may have been, so I’ll leave you to it. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. If this Country ever elects a fascist regime, I daresay age verification will be the least of our problems!! But still, leaving it there. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ Come on, let’s not pretend age verification for porn is the same thing as the state kicking down your door for watching a Lovehoney tutorial. Most of us already use online services that require ID like the GP apps, banking apps, job portals etc., and no one’s suggesting those are the end of free speech. If someone’s online viewing habits could damage their employment prospects, the issue probably isn’t just the verification process, it’s what they’re viewing and in what context. Also, unless Greg Wallace has suddenly become the face of the revolution (which I wouldn’t be suprised about now he’s unemployable with the BBC), I’m not sure invoking him helps the cause! Do you happen to work for the Government? If not, it must be good to always be on the right side of them. Consider the implications for activists and dissidents. . We can agree to disagree. I apologise if I appeared to be rude. It’s just that I feel strongly about this particular topic. Enjoy the rest of your day. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. " This is legislation designed to protect children on line, how can anyone think that's a bad thing? Personally i think it's come far too late. Those that think this is a cover for yet more surveillance can simply not comply and find other means of getting their fix. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. " How do you know it is honest? I note, like others, you use the “conspiracy theories” smear without actually addressing the points made. Nothing I have stated on this forum is factually incorrect. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. This is legislation designed to protect children on line, how can anyone think that's a bad thing? Personally i think it's come far too late. Those that think this is a cover for yet more surveillance can simply not comply and find other means of getting their fix." Protecting kids online is not a bad thing, and I don’t think anyone would disagree with that statement. But the implementation is poorly executed, it shouldn’t be outsourced to a third party, it should be at the ISP level. | |||
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"It’s long overdue and the age verification takes seconds. " Depends if you trust an obscure website with your personal details. Ashley Madison guests thought their details were safe until the hackers had a field day and leaked them all | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. This is legislation designed to protect children on line, how can anyone think that's a bad thing? Personally i think it's come far too late. Those that think this is a cover for yet more surveillance can simply not comply and find other means of getting their fix." Since when did the Government care about protecting children. I’ve lost count at the number of politicians and senior figures who have abused children, as well as the number of coverups. I care deeply about protecting children and want nothing more than for them not to go through what I did as a child. The Online Safety Act is now the right way to deal with the situation. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. This is legislation designed to protect children on line, how can anyone think that's a bad thing? Personally i think it's come far too late. Those that think this is a cover for yet more surveillance can simply not comply and find other means of getting their fix. Protecting kids online is not a bad thing, and I don’t think anyone would disagree with that statement. But the implementation is poorly executed, it shouldn’t be outsourced to a third party, it should be at the ISP level. " I've been asked for verification via something called Yoti, where's the harm in that. All they need to know is whether i'm over 18 or not, not what i need the verification for. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. How do you know it is honest? I note, like others, you use the “conspiracy theories” smear without actually addressing the points made. Nothing I have stated on this forum is factually incorrect. " I said the intention was honest - you cannot be sitting there with a straight face and saying “hey, let those kids see explicit & horrific content!” surely? 🤔 And it is, what would lead you to think there is suddenly a move to state surveillance when you’re sitting on here, the ISP can see your traffic already and all the sites you’ve visited etc? That’s the golden ticket in state surveillance terms. | |||
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"It’s long overdue and the age verification takes seconds. Depends if you trust an obscure website with your personal details. Ashley Madison guests thought their details were safe until the hackers had a field day and leaked them all " Personal data is regularly sold on the dark web. They had even more of a field day when Digital ID information from thousands of people in Singapore was available to the highest bidder. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. This is legislation designed to protect children on line, how can anyone think that's a bad thing? Personally i think it's come far too late. Those that think this is a cover for yet more surveillance can simply not comply and find other means of getting their fix. Protecting kids online is not a bad thing, and I don’t think anyone would disagree with that statement. But the implementation is poorly executed, it shouldn’t be outsourced to a third party, it should be at the ISP level. I've been asked for verification via something called Yoti, where's the harm in that. All they need to know is whether i'm over 18 or not, not what i need the verification for." Did you know that Yoti can ship your PII off to India? It’s a direct breach of our Data Protection Act 2018, and I’m 99.999% sure India doesn’t have the same level of data protection standards as the EU / UK. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. " yeah always brings out the nutters | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. How do you know it is honest? I note, like others, you use the “conspiracy theories” smear without actually addressing the points made. Nothing I have stated on this forum is factually incorrect. I said the intention was honest - you cannot be sitting there with a straight face and saying “hey, let those kids see explicit & horrific content!” surely? 🤔 And it is, what would lead you to think there is suddenly a move to state surveillance when you’re sitting on here, the ISP can see your traffic already and all the sites you’ve visited etc? That’s the golden ticket in state surveillance terms. " Are you actually being serious right now? I’m sure I have done more in my life to protect children from harm than you have. With respect, your posts shows how uneducated you are on such matters. The ISP cannot see the traffic of those using a good VPN or the Tor network. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. How do you know it is honest? I note, like others, you use the “conspiracy theories” smear without actually addressing the points made. Nothing I have stated on this forum is factually incorrect. I said the intention was honest - you cannot be sitting there with a straight face and saying “hey, let those kids see explicit & horrific content!” surely? 🤔 And it is, what would lead you to think there is suddenly a move to state surveillance when you’re sitting on here, the ISP can see your traffic already and all the sites you’ve visited etc? That’s the golden ticket in state surveillance terms. Are you actually being serious right now? I’m sure I have done more in my life to protect children from harm than you have. With respect, your posts shows how uneducated you are on such matters. The ISP cannot see the traffic of those using a good VPN or the Tor network." Get back to me when you have spent almost 20 years, volunteering countless hours of your free time to protect children, speaking to victims of the most horrific abuse imaginable, | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters" Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness." Soviet Governments used the same tactic to go after dissidents. It was a favourite of Stalin’s. I see that others are keeping his work alive. He was such a lovely man (sarcasm) | |||
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"No we don’t have a digital ID unless the Police or government etc gets a court order/ warrant to look at it or you are arrested" Correct. Even then, the information wouldn’t be as extensive, especially if the person used a VPN. Digital ID would be a centralised database, available to multiple government agencies to see whenever they deem fit. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness." didn’t say mentally ill. You did. I class a nutter as someone who follows conspiracy theories. Follows falsehoods and generally can’t think for themselves. People don’t agree with this fine. But trying to come up with loads of behinds the scenes reasons for it which are rarely true. I have no issue with it. If my details get used elsewhere that’s my fault in the future. But if it protects 1% of children guess what. I’m fine with that | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. didn’t say mentally ill. You did. I class a nutter as someone who follows conspiracy theories. Follows falsehoods and generally can’t think for themselves. People don’t agree with this fine. But trying to come up with loads of behinds the scenes reasons for it which are rarely true. I have no issue with it. If my details get used elsewhere that’s my fault in the future. But if it protects 1% of children guess what. I’m fine with that " The term “nutters” suggests mental illness. Ask any mental health advocacy organisation. Where have I stated a falsehood in this entire thread? You haven’t debunked a single thing. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. Soviet Governments used the same tactic to go after dissidents. It was a favourite of Stalin’s. I see that others are keeping his work alive. He was such a lovely man (sarcasm)" I mean this in the politest way possible, no one needs to hack you, you’re sharing all your personal experiences in a public forum by choice. Don’t you see the irony in that? | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. didn’t say mentally ill. You did. I class a nutter as someone who follows conspiracy theories. Follows falsehoods and generally can’t think for themselves. People don’t agree with this fine. But trying to come up with loads of behinds the scenes reasons for it which are rarely true. I have no issue with it. If my details get used elsewhere that’s my fault in the future. But if it protects 1% of children guess what. I’m fine with that The term “nutters” suggests mental illness. Ask any mental health advocacy organisation. Where have I stated a falsehood in this entire thread? You haven’t debunked a single thing." Ahhh if that’s the case my mistake. I’ll change it to something different next time. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. Soviet Governments used the same tactic to go after dissidents. It was a favourite of Stalin’s. I see that others are keeping his work alive. He was such a lovely man (sarcasm) I mean this in the politest way possible, no one needs to hack you, you’re sharing all your personal experiences in a public forum by choice. Don’t you see the irony in that? " I share what I feel comfortable with. Everyone has different levels of comfort. It’s not all about me. This thread has been about online privacy. Nowhere have I stated the reasons for being arrested, etc. | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? I did the face fit in a photo frame test for Xham the other day. It took a full 2 minutes and didn’t hurt a bit….... When I did it. It displayed that it was deleting the photo and didn’t store the information. Least on the one used for Bluesky as no one in their right mind should be using X | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? I did the face fit in a photo frame test for Xham the other day. It took a full 2 minutes and didn’t hurt a bit….... 2 minutes after ‘passing’ the age test, I was wanking, I’d forgotten about anything else…. | |||
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"The intention behind this is honest, but christ the conspiracy theories because of this are something else.. yeah always brings out the nutters Are you trying to smear those with privacy concerns as mentally ill? If that is the case, I wouldn’t like to see how you treat those who genuinely suffer from mental illness. Soviet Governments used the same tactic to go after dissidents. It was a favourite of Stalin’s. I see that others are keeping his work alive. He was such a lovely man (sarcasm) I mean this in the politest way possible, no one needs to hack you, you’re sharing all your personal experiences in a public forum by choice. Don’t you see the irony in that? I share what I feel comfortable with. Everyone has different levels of comfort. It’s not all about me. This thread has been about online privacy. Nowhere have I stated the reasons for being arrested, etc. " Fair enough, we all have our own comfort levels and you’re obviously speaking from strong personal experience. I only pointed out the irony because the privacy concerns were framed so strongly, but a lot of detail was being shared at the same time. That’s all. I appreciate the clarification | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? I did the face fit in a photo frame test for Xham the other day. It took a full 2 minutes and didn’t hurt a bit….... Hopefully, they keep to their word. Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly difficult to trust corporate organisations. I’ve not looked at the specific ins and outs of the verification used by BlueSky, so would prefer not to comment more on it until I find out more. , | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? I did the face fit in a photo frame test for Xham the other day. It took a full 2 minutes and didn’t hurt a bit….... Yep like you can’t say they haven’t deleted it and I can’t say they have. That’s the thing about making a choice to use it or not. Only one I disagree with is X putting it behind premium to get the tinfoil hatters to pay for it when it could have been done without it. But that’s why no one should ever be using X anyway | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ " What a crock of shit. I haven’t given FAB any information they don’t already know, Infact I’ve done nothing and am still able to use this site. People talk about a vpn, I have no idea what that is and don’t have one, I have done nothing and am automatically verified as an adult. Perhaps they have just been monitoring my forum posts and have decided it’s plainly obvious I am an adult. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ What a crock of shit. I haven’t given FAB any information they don’t already know, Infact I’ve done nothing and am still able to use this site. People talk about a vpn, I have no idea what that is and don’t have one, I have done nothing and am automatically verified as an adult. Perhaps they have just been monitoring my forum posts and have decided it’s plainly obvious I am an adult. You've either accessed the site using a phone enabled for adult content of upgraded using a credit card. | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ What a crock of shit. I haven’t given FAB any information they don’t already know, Infact I’ve done nothing and am still able to use this site. People talk about a vpn, I have no idea what that is and don’t have one, I have done nothing and am automatically verified as an adult. Perhaps they have just been monitoring my forum posts and have decided it’s plainly obvious I am an adult. Maybe depends on how you pay for your site membership? Old enough to have a dinosaur, then you’re old enough to have a bank account and use the site | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ What a crock of shit. I haven’t given FAB any information they don’t already know, Infact I’ve done nothing and am still able to use this site. People talk about a vpn, I have no idea what that is and don’t have one, I have done nothing and am automatically verified as an adult. Perhaps they have just been monitoring my forum posts and have decided it’s plainly obvious I am an adult. I’ve never had a credit card but I always tell the phone company to make sure the account is fully unlocked when I renew my contract, I’ve never actually had to provide any proof to them🤷🏻♂️ | |||
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"Even looking at the replies just on this thread it’s clear people don’t understand the implications of what is happening. This isn’t just about porn ! All sorts of posts have been taken down including those about the Epping immigrant hotel. This is the beginning of the end of free speech. What you are doing by verifying is giving yourself a digital ID that can be tracked by the government and other organisations. When you had to age verify in the past to look at porn etc it was basically just confirming you were over 18 as it proved you had a credit card , this is totally different ! Beware in the future that your sex life or online viewing content doesn’t come back to haunt you in the way of employment or CRB/DBS type checks. If Greg Wallace is cancelled for a bit of slap & tickle then what do you think your local council or health authority will do if you applied for a position with them especially if it involves child welfare etc ! This is another real threat on our freedom but so many people take it so lightly & that’s how governments get away with it 🤷♂️ What a crock of shit. I haven’t given FAB any information they don’t already know, Infact I’ve done nothing and am still able to use this site. People talk about a vpn, I have no idea what that is and don’t have one, I have done nothing and am automatically verified as an adult. Perhaps they have just been monitoring my forum posts and have decided it’s plainly obvious I am an adult. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t make fun of their dinosaurs | |||
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"So just a question how many of you have been affected and how many have age verified on there respected pron outlet's ? There are privacy implications with the law. Consider what would happen if sensitive information gets leaked. Big Brother Watch, which I support, has spoken about this. Those with such concerns are using VPNs. I understand why some people support age verification laws, but another thing to remember is that it’s open to abuse by governments. Slippery slope comes to mind. I don’t think the governments wants to just limit it to adult websites. Look at what is happening in other countries. One must ask why governments worldwide are enacting almost identical legislation at the same time. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorists to notice that something isn’t right. Aren’t our governments supposed to all be independent of one another? No one even mentions where all of this age verification for adult content is coming from." Societies and cultures evolve, often with influences on each other. The swinging 60s weren't just a phenomenon in the UK, for example. The evident dangers from something, when apparent somewhere, would be negligence, if ignored by authorities. Citizens are informed and aware of what's going wrong in culture too and some of these changes are due to pressure from affected families. The UK changes aren't just about porn. Other dangerous materials, including those that could facilitate young people towards suicide, are also covered. Adults are better able to understand risks as well as to minimise harm, including protection of their own data. | |||
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"Loving the comments in all these threads. I can understand those who are worried about government surveillance but at the same time I would ask if they have actually seen or used any government IT systems? They are universally abysmal. They barely work - and that’s the good ones. Are GCHQs systems better? Undoubtedly but they are not going to waste that capability looking at why Brian from Burnley is knocking one out. I would be more worried that government technology is so crap they aren’t actually capable of spying on you even if they wanted to then the fact that they might think your life was remotely interesting enough to even bother with in the first place." 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 exactly this. | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices " asks people to back up their comments with facts calls a well known method of vaccination “experimental gene therapy treatment” Come on, what you at. 😂 | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices " I backed up my argument above when I made the factual statement that no one was bothered about having to provide photo id to drive a car or have their photo taken twice in every UK airport or about being segregated in airports when it was only happening to others but as soon as that silent majority are asked to do it the conspiracy theories start. Keep up. You're only about 40 years behind the times. | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices I backed up my argument above when I made the factual statement that no one was bothered about having to provide photo id to drive a car or have their photo taken twice in every UK airport or about being segregated in airports when it was only happening to others but as soon as that silent majority are asked to do it the conspiracy theories start. Keep up. You're only about 40 years behind the times. " firstly you didn't state a fact you posted an opinion based upon your personal experience. How do you know that no-one cared? So what you are actually saying it happened to me so everyone else should have it done to them. So on that rational maybe we should have just let Hitler do what he wanted because we never did anything in the beginning to stop it. | |||
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"DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is a molecule found in cells that carries the genetic instructions for all living organisms. The m part stands for messenger which is used to change genetic defects. " Pretty sure uploading your passport for age verification doesn’t rewrite your DNA but if yours starts glowing after entering your DOB, let us know | |||
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"DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is a molecule found in cells that carries the genetic instructions for all living organisms. The m part stands for messenger which is used to change genetic defects. Pretty sure uploading your passport for age verification doesn’t rewrite your DNA but if yours starts glowing after entering your DOB, let us know you know full well that's not what I'm saying. | |||
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"Everyone is quick to mock and laugh until the authorities come for them. Do I need to quote that famous poem about the rise of the nazis and no one speaking out?" Strewth, bit of a jump from age verification to DNA and now to Nazis, but ok…. No one’s silencing you. You can speak out all you like but don’t be surprised when people raise an eyebrow at what you say and question it. Like you said, you should be able to back it up. | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices I backed up my argument above when I made the factual statement that no one was bothered about having to provide photo id to drive a car or have their photo taken twice in every UK airport or about being segregated in airports when it was only happening to others but as soon as that silent majority are asked to do it the conspiracy theories start. Keep up. You're only about 40 years behind the times. firstly you didn't state a fact you posted an opinion based upon your personal experience. How do you know that no-one cared? So what you are actually saying it happened to me so everyone else should have it done to them. So on that rational maybe we should have just let Hitler do what he wanted because we never did anything in the beginning to stop it." Congratulations on winning the Godwin's Law award. | |||
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"Everyone is affected OP. It’s the law 🤷♂️ Ps. It’s porn by the way PPS. It’s easy to follow and still enjoy the porn you want as an adult 💡" The crazies are out in force twisting it this way and that, which was inevitable I guess | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating " Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? " I want to know what everyone is watching that they're so scared of it coming out | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? I want to know what everyone is watching that they're so scared of it coming out" Me too | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? " It damn well better, I have to do the course annually 🤦♂️🤣😂 | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? I want to know what everyone is watching that they're so scared of it coming out" Me too! Seems an awful lot of knots in knickers over it.... I mean do people really think their porn habits are being monitored...and by who? Government agent Gerald the office oddbod who has been assigned to the basement to monitor the mucky habits of the Fab Forum members? Poor Gerald is all I can say! He deserves a pay raise for that | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? It damn well better, I have to do the course annually 🤦♂️🤣😂" Me too!! My work life revolves around it! And bloody Safeguarding, but apparently I know nothing about that either | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices What experimental gene therapy treatment was to be forced on people? the mrna jab. | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices What experimental gene therapy treatment was to be forced on people? Which is not gene therapy 🙄 | |||
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"Fuck me this escalated.....all over porn being blocked!!!! Quite sad actually no one is really debate the porn or age aspects it's the freedom and collection of personal data and what that can lead to that people are debating Personal data collection has always been a thing though, this is why we have GDPR and that still applies does it not? I want to know what everyone is watching that they're so scared of it coming out Me too! Seems an awful lot of knots in knickers over it.... I mean do people really think their porn habits are being monitored...and by who? Government agent Gerald the office oddbod who has been assigned to the basement to monitor the mucky habits of the Fab Forum members? Poor Gerald is all I can say! He deserves a pay raise for that you would be surprised what government officials get up too. Look up operation 'midnight caller' an experiment where the ciao got sex workers to dose punters with lsd then try and get them to tell them their darkest secrets while a cia operative watched behind a two way mirror. | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices What experimental gene therapy treatment was to be forced on people? As we are quoting 'The mRNA from the vaccines does not enter the cell nucleus or interact with the DNA at all, so it does not constitute gene therapy' Can we get back on to the original subject if the thread, I've wasted too many years hearing the same old droll. You have your opinion, everyone else has theirs what your talking about now is not relevant to the thread | |||
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" Are you seriously comparing a CIA experiment that took place in the 60's on America to non existent GA Gerald sifting through porn? 😂 I'm saying don't underestimate what government officials get up too. " And I am saying I doubt anyone has the time or inclination to go sifting through peoples porn searches 😂 | |||
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"Ok but to the original part of the post. Be a responsible parent and teach your kids not to watch. Everyone is shouting about kids and porn but I Don't hear anyone saying anything about teenagers carrying knifes and selling narcs" Ever heard of the knife angel project? | |||
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"Ok but to the original part of the post. Be a responsible parent and teach your kids not to watch. Everyone is shouting about kids and porn but I Don't hear anyone saying anything about teenagers carrying knifes and selling narcs" Again nothing to do with the original topic | |||
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"I think it's funny how all the DO gooders are resorting to insults instead of backing up their stance with factual arguments. It so easy to call someone a crackpot, tinfoil hatter, nutter etc than actually backing your point up isn't it. Don't forget how a few years ago they were going to force people to have experimental gene therapy treatments despite people's personal choices What experimental gene therapy treatment was to be forced on people? Now you’re just spreading misinformation. Which guy are you referring to, just to be clear? Shedloads of people have been involved in researching this over the years as is the way with most science stuff. Referring to one early researcher as the inventor and treating his personal opinion as gospel isn’t how science works, albeit I’m no expert! Before I dismiss you as a conspiracy theorist echo chamber I want to check we are thinking about the same person. | |||
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"Lock down had some serious effects on some people's propensity to believe conspiracy theories. As an experiment, I logged into the rodent site. Easy. Didn't hold any data, and if it did, it's nothing that isn't on here, my socials, or held on probably thousands of bits of paper and databases since my birth. Fucking get on with life, it's getting shorter by the minute 🤓" 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 | |||
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