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By *hagTonight OP Man 7 weeks ago
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Are you also following the latest news about it of how there will be a new law to ban mobile phones in schools? Apparently the government will seek to make existing recommendations on phone in school statuary.
Why the change you might ask? Well it comes after one study found that it can take students up to 20 minutes to refocus after being distracted by a notification.
It would be interesting to see what your view on it is, is this change just about the time it takes for students to refocus or is there something more to it that that?
So I guess that this change have to be about distraction, rather than anything else. I think that they shouldnt use their mobile phones in school, because the school is about learning, not social media  |
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"Are you also following the latest news about it of how there will be a new law to ban mobile phones in schools? Apparently the government will seek to make existing recommendations on phone in school statuary.
Why the change you might ask? Well it comes after one study found that it can take students up to 20 minutes to refocus after being distracted by a notification.
It would be interesting to see what your view on it is, is this change just about the time it takes for students to refocus or is there something more to it that that?
So I guess that this change have to be about distraction, rather than anything else. I think that they shouldnt use their mobile phones in school, because the school is about learning, not social media "
I don’t think they should no but parents should be legally required to enable parental restrictions. Phones can also have certain apps disabled which is a useful function essentially it should be reduced to just a phone and maybe camera |
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By (user no longer on site) 7 weeks ago
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Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones? |
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My ex us a srcondary school teacher. She describes phones as a real problem in class.
Many schools already have restrictions around phones. The issue is around enforcing the restrictions. For all the gardline cases we hear about kids sent home because of hairstyles, the application of many of the rules, whether they are enforced by the school, LEA or DoE, is very hard.
Some kids will also need phones for safeguarding reasons. |
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"My ex us a srcondary school teacher. She describes phones as a real problem in class.
Many schools already have restrictions around phones. The issue is around enforcing the restrictions. For all the gardline cases we hear about kids sent home because of hairstyles, the application of many of the rules, whether they are enforced by the school, LEA or DoE, is very hard.
Some kids will also need phones for safeguarding reasons."
Phones are a huge problem for us in college. I agree about enforcing the rules. 16-19 year old lads with too much testosterone and who like to rage bait will be a big issue.
We also have young carers in college too so they have responsibilities.
I also agree with your safeguarding point. |
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?"
Well it's time to start working out and eat healthy because these future doctors using Chat gpt to pass their exam! 😁 |
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Phones and social media in general is a huge distraction and in my opinion, cause for concern.
I like that my ADHD kid has access to a phone whilst at school, as sometimes, when things get too much, I am contactable. However, I dont like that they have become an afdiction and their whole lives are now entwined with a phone. All the homework is done on it. No books, at least not at home anyway. Yes a tablet, PC, laptop could be used but these can also have the variety of distraction apps on them too. Teeenage kids everywhere just doom scrolling their lives away.
I dont know how they work but a solution maybe a signal blocker within the school premises, to prohibit internet access 🤷♂️ |
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Although thankful I don’t have the problem to deal with is banning technology really the way to go?. Isn’t school about assisting children to be ready for future life, a life that has mobile devices.
Obviously there is the issue of those who have better devices than others, or children who don’t have phones, but wouldn’t it be better to try to harness the technology as it isn’t going to go away. |
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By *WB85Man 7 weeks ago
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I think its important that as children get older you can contact them.
But, during lessons their should be phone lockers so they cant be used, only at break times they can be used.
Another point though is how vulnerable do they make you for theft etc etc.
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"Phones and social media in general is a huge distraction and in my opinion, cause for concern.
I like that my ADHD kid has access to a phone whilst at school, as sometimes, when things get too much, I am contactable. However, I dont like that they have become an afdiction and their whole lives are now entwined with a phone. All the homework is done on it. No books, at least not at home anyway. Yes a tablet, PC, laptop could be used but these can also have the variety of distraction apps on them too. Teeenage kids everywhere just doom scrolling their lives away.
I dont know how they work but a solution maybe a signal blocker within the school premises, to prohibit internet access 🤷♂️"
My teens school has this, phones must be switched off on the premises and in their bags (used to be lockers slwhen they had them)even if left on they have a blocker built in around most of the building so they cannot use them anyway. The only exceptions are those who need it on for things like diabetes monitors, they are allowed to keep them on and on their person. |
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?
Well it's time to start working out and eat healthy because these future doctors using Chat gpt to pass their exam! 😁"
Ever notice how doctors Google your symptoms and look up the medications and treatment options?  |
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I dont know how they work but a solution maybe a signal blocker within the school premises, to prohibit internet access 🤷♂️
My teens school has this, phones must be switched off on the premises and in their bags (used to be lockers slwhen they had them)even if left on they have a blocker built in around most of the building so they cannot use them anyway. The only exceptions are those who need it on for things like diabetes monitors, they are allowed to keep them on and on their person."
Makes sense to me.
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?
Well it's time to start working out and eat healthy because these future doctors using Chat gpt to pass their exam! 😁"
Our health and safety manager at work uses ai to do pretty much his entire job. Wish I got his fucking wage to defer my job to a machine |
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They should be banned from school day except for those with a genuine safeguarding or medical reason. But they should be allowed to take them with them for their journey to and from school, the phone locker idea is a good one. |
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By (user no longer on site) 7 weeks ago
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Nope just parent need to parent properly and teach them to not look at their phone or notifications during school time if this is an issue. If you kid is stuck on their phone, you created the monster.
They did talk about banning in my son's previous creepy controlling school. But I pointed out we needed to use his phone to locate him sat in school after a phone call from the school saying he was absent. And when the school bus didn't turn up, quick call he was picked up and drove to school. Same for when bus broke down and after school clubs being late. |
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By *WB85Man 7 weeks ago
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"I think its important that as children get older you can contact them.
Why? "
For the same reason sending an adult out in this day and age without any means of contacting you would be stupid.
We live in a crazy world, things happen, school schedules can change, your parents may have something happen and after school plans may not be as expected. Being able to send a message to warn of such events to me is important.
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By (user no longer on site) 7 weeks ago
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"They should be banned in the House of Commons then some MP's might actually know what's going on."
Their alcohol consumption first. All nearby restaurants, bars and pubs have vote bells to tell them to get back to vote. |
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Theres a million problems with schools, yet were concerned about mobile phones. Especially when teachers are failing to teach properly, disapline going to far, children not being fed, duty of care failing, teachers "distracted" by girls attire.... the list goes on.
If it wasnt for a pupil with a phone at my godsons school a few years ago, a teacher wouldnt have been caught being a predator. The only reason it went as far as it did, was because the pupil caught the teacher on camera and showed his parents and police. No one would have believed him had it not been for them photos.
Im not saying phones are good, i disagree with them being out in lessons, but a total ban, to me is like its diverting attention from what actually needs fixed. Plus a break is just that, a time a pupil can relax, so they should be able to play some music, watch some YouTube or make some tiktoks etc.
Unfortunately where in the era where kids cant do shit in the playground because its to dangerous, so what they meant to do? Stand around like their on a 1940s POW camp? |
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By *vaRoseWoman 7 weeks ago
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"Theres a million problems with schools, yet were concerned about mobile phones. Especially when teachers are failing to teach properly, disapline going to far, children not being fed, duty of care failing, teachers "distracted" by girls attire.... the list goes on.
If it wasnt for a pupil with a phone at my godsons school a few years ago, a teacher wouldnt have been caught being a predator. The only reason it went as far as it did, was because the pupil caught the teacher on camera and showed his parents and police. No one would have believed him had it not been for them photos.
Im not saying phones are good, i disagree with them being out in lessons, but a total ban, to me is like its diverting attention from what actually needs fixed. Plus a break is just that, a time a pupil can relax, so they should be able to play some music, watch some YouTube or make some tiktoks etc.
Unfortunately where in the era where kids cant do shit in the playground because its to dangerous, so what they meant to do? Stand around like their on a 1940s POW camp? "
I’m inclined to agree
I’ll also add that many kids with medical conditions actively manage those conditions using apps on their phones. Blanket bans with exceptions singles those kids out even more than they already are.
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Ban phones with internet access. Parents can still contact their children if need be. Also, parents can call the school if they need to. That's what they used to do.
It's important to use technology in a useful way, instead of being addicted to it. |
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"Ban phones with internet access. Parents can still contact their children if need be. Also, parents can call the school if they need to. That's what they used to do.
It's important to use technology in a useful way, instead of being addicted to it."
You say parents can call the school, its not always working though. Theres loads of parents claiming schools arent passing important messages on, or even worse calling parents when they should be. |
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I think it's pointless shutting this particular stable door.
We're in a society now where mobile phones are an accepted and necessary part of life. When I was at school with Noah's kids once you left home you were out of contact until you got back. All we can do now is limit their use at certain times
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By *ino200Man 7 weeks ago
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Its not good for education ,its not good for their attention spans ,its not good for interactions and people skills ,it may be good for medical conditions and its extremely good when they go missing ,so education or safety parents will be on the side of safety always know where you child is at all times ,teachers are split on this ,the people that like to know where you are want it .I think all children should be made to put phones in individual lockers and not allowed to access them without permission from your teacher . |
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"Ban phones with internet access. Parents can still contact their children if need be. Also, parents can call the school if they need to. That's what they used to do.
It's important to use technology in a useful way, instead of being addicted to it."
Kids use apps for school on their phones now. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 7 weeks ago
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"Are you also following the latest news about it of how there will be a new law to ban mobile phones in schools? Apparently the government will seek to make existing recommendations on phone in school statuary.
Why the change you might ask? Well it comes after one study found that it can take students up to 20 minutes to refocus after being distracted by a notification.
It would be interesting to see what your view on it is, is this change just about the time it takes for students to refocus or is there something more to it that that?
So I guess that this change have to be about distraction, rather than anything else. I think that they shouldnt use their mobile phones in school, because the school is about learning, not social media
I don’t think they should no but parents should be legally required to enable parental restrictions. Phones can also have certain apps disabled which is a useful function essentially it should be reduced to just a phone and maybe camera "
Hi _heelvingtontwo, yes, you are right there, the parents should be legally required to enable parental restrictions too, yes, that is a useful function as well |
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Why do kids pull a phone out in school?
Becuase their bored, not mentally engaged, dont want to be there, hate the lesson, no respect for the teacher or others... many answers
Why?
Becuase the lesson is boring, the teacher isnt engaging, they dont want to be there.... many answers.
So if we eliminate the phone, what changes?
Not much, except they start to distract others or cause problems, their not going to sit and learn because theyve got no phone.
Over easter I had a farm hand for a week. 16 year old lad, whos the son of my friend. My friend was sick of his son sitting on his arse, so I offered him a weeks work paid. Apart from to take some photos/videos for his tiktoks and facebook, his phone wasnt in his hand at all, simply because he was mentally engaged and not bored out his mind.
He grafted that hard, told him if he gets good GCSEs he can have a summer job. So now hes even more mentally engaged to do well. |
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I like to think that I'd be one of the few students who wouldn't pull out a phone during lesson, simple because I'm not addicted to it and have an attention span more than that of a goldfish. Phones have a lot to answer for with regards to the attention spans of children and teenagers, whilst their brains are still very neuroplastic.
I've consciously made the effort to delete literally every social media app from my phone. I only use it for emails and whatsapp, as well as YouTube. If it weren't for Fab, I'd hardly ever look at it, except for music in the gym.
Phones should be banned from schools, or at least heavily restricted (hard to police I know). Think parental restrictions applied during school hours.
On a side note if anyone does struggle with their relationship with physical news, a great book I'd recommend reading is "how to break up with your phone". There are some incredibly eye opening statistics contained within and some really helpful tips to reduce screen time in general. |
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Kids will be kids. They are addicted to social media these days. So yes remove the temptation during school hours. Either signal blockers or better still lockers until home time. Can you imagine them all crashing into each other the heading home, none looking where they are going desperate to catch up on who's slagging who off.
How did we all manage before mobiles and the Internet |
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This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.  |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to. "
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it. |
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"Yes
Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
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The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should. |
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"Yes
Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should. "
Probably because the messages aren't that important. Unless it's an actual emergency you don't need to contact school. |
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IMO, having phones at school has limited childrens problem solving abilities.
I gwt all of the arguments around safety, and I like knowing where they are, but when i was at school i rravelled several miles by bus. If i missed that bus or something hapoened, I solved the problem either using my brain or my legs. I always made it home, sometimes having to use a couple of extra buses or via a mate. If it got ridiculous, there was always a payphone and I knew the numbers that I needed in my head.
I know its 2026 before people come at me, but phones have taken away some of children and adults ability to think - discomgooglation i think is the word... |
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"Yes
Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should.
Probably because the messages aren't that important. Unless it's an actual emergency you don't need to contact school. "
Unfortunately thats not the case. A good friend of mine is part of a campaign to try improve school standards, he deals with constant emails of schools doing wrong and not contacting parent.
Search Ebury Offical on Tiktok and google. Just look at how much is going wrong in schools. If the kids could pull a phone out and video half of whats on there, there would be hell on across the country.
Teachers getting distracted by ankles of young girls. Young girls having to prove they need to change sanitary products or even prove its that time of the month. This whole ban the phone thing is to distract from the real issues of education! |
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"Yes
Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should.
Probably because the messages aren't that important. Unless it's an actual emergency you don't need to contact school.
Unfortunately thats not the case. A good friend of mine is part of a campaign to try improve school standards, he deals with constant emails of schools doing wrong and not contacting parent.
Search Ebury Offical on Tiktok and google. Just look at how much is going wrong in schools. If the kids could pull a phone out and video half of whats on there, there would be hell on across the country.
Teachers getting distracted by ankles of young girls. Young girls having to prove they need to change sanitary products or even prove its that time of the month. This whole ban the phone thing is to distract from the real issues of education! "
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it. "
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless."
We need more intelligent parents then |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless."
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
We need more intelligent parents then"
A large part of it does indeed come down to this in a sense. My brother, a single parent of 3 girls (one teenage, one edge of teen, and one 8) and the furthest from a tech savvy person as you can get did his homework, put the time in and is able to limit and fairly control their time and what they can access.
Even more so the whole "schools are shit, standards are shit blah blah blah"
The go on to demand
"give the school's more things to do toward raising MY failing experiment of a crotch goblin"
The problem is with society and parents in general (not all), not what more schools can do to make up for "your" short comings. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval. "
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place."
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I see pros and cons for having/not having it. I think the idea of having a standard phone with no internet access/camera sounds a good idea, particularly with the bullying and filming each other and plastering it on social media aspect. But as said above this wouldnt work for children who manage phsyical health via apps and such nowadays.
Plus once they finish school they would just be able to grab there phone and do it anyway.
I dont think the whole issue is the phone its one small glitch in a problematic system in schools |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place."
Agreed lazy parenting using company parental locks is something I have never done. They understand when you talk to them. They will make mistakes, that's real learning. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place.
Maybe the problem lies in parenting"
I don't think it's fair to blame parents, they already have enough plates spinning without having to worry about this.
I blame a technology that's grown so quickly as to be completely out of control. What's the big deal in only allowing under 16s to have a mobile phone that only allows calls and texts, no internet, no camera? Simple. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place."
Pro tip, those things you deleted still exist, you just can't see them.
That incognito mode you use, not as incognito as you think. |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place.
Pro tip, those things you deleted still exist, you just can't see them.
That incognito mode you use, not as incognito as you think."
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place.
Pro tip, those things you deleted still exist, you just can't see them.
That incognito mode you use, not as incognito as you think."
Do you think the average parent will be able to retrieve what's been deleted? If it can't be seen it might as well not exist.  |
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I work in a school at the moment in behaviour. We have yondr pouches.
Every student has one and has to put their phone in the pouch on the way in the gates. Staff supervise this. Anyone claiming they have no phone have to go in a room and be ‘scanned’ by a wand type tool. Like the airport. The pouches get unlocked on the way out of school.
If they forget their pouch they leave their phone in reception.
It works. It has helped with less distractions, less in school arguments, less fights. 97% of students comply and rarely had any issues phone related.
I wasn’t sure at the start but I’m happy we implemented it and I continue to support it
Mrs xx |
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By *octor ProdMan 7 weeks ago
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"I work in a school at the moment in behaviour. We have yondr pouches.
Every student has one and has to put their phone in the pouch on the way in the gates. Staff supervise this. Anyone claiming they have no phone have to go in a room and be ‘scanned’ by a wand type tool. Like the airport. The pouches get unlocked on the way out of school.
If they forget their pouch they leave their phone in reception.
It works. It has helped with less distractions, less in school arguments, less fights. 97% of students comply and rarely had any issues phone related.
I wasn’t sure at the start but I’m happy we implemented it and I continue to support it
Mrs xx"
Most do have a ban in place, this is empty policy |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place.
Pro tip, those things you deleted still exist, you just can't see them.
That incognito mode you use, not as incognito as you think.
Do you think the average parent will be able to retrieve what's been deleted? If it can't be seen it might as well not exist. "
It's not overly difficult to do. A quick Google and YouTube video tutorial, no different than watching how to bleed a radiator.
The question is the average parent going to bother. And there we have it, right back to how much is the parent bothering with these things instead of expecting the schools and government to do it for them. |
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"I work in a school at the moment in behaviour. We have yondr pouches.
Every student has one and has to put their phone in the pouch on the way in the gates. Staff supervise this. Anyone claiming they have no phone have to go in a room and be ‘scanned’ by a wand type tool. Like the airport. The pouches get unlocked on the way out of school.
If they forget their pouch they leave their phone in reception.
It works. It has helped with less distractions, less in school arguments, less fights. 97% of students comply and rarely had any issues phone related.
I wasn’t sure at the start but I’m happy we implemented it and I continue to support it
Mrs xx"
Im going to assume your school is one of these sensible ones who dont put 6 kids in isolation for the wrong shade of black socks? 🤣 |
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This needs rephrasing.
Schools won't BAN mobile phones. They will just ban the USE of mobile phones during the school day.
Many schools now have storage sytems where the pupils can lock their phones away for the day or some school offices store them until home time.
No school pupil needs a phone in school hours. |
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"This needs rephrasing.
Schools won't BAN mobile phones. They will just ban the USE of mobile phones during the school day.
Many schools now have storage sytems where the pupils can lock their phones away for the day or some school offices store them until home time.
No school pupil needs a phone in school hours. "
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?"
I can assure you the last thing kids are doing on their phones is researching anything lesson related in school. |
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By *ilbzMan 7 weeks ago
Swindon Wiltshire |
I teach over 16’s in the army vehicle mechanics and to be fair they are pretty good, mainly because they are treated like adults, we discuss guidelines at the start and that includes mobile phone use. A lot of them are away from home so its important they stay in contact with family so we let them take important calls as long as they take it outside of the class.
I get they are in a different age bracket but the trend of using them in the learning environment follows them out of school.
Like anything there is always the minority who abuse it, i do have the advantage of being backed up by their superiors so discipline is not an issue. |
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?
I can assure you the last thing kids are doing on their phones is researching anything lesson related in school. "
Is that based on a fact? Or an assumption? |
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"Is this because students are googling what they are being taught and researching subjects online instead of using the resource materials or is it to stop them being distracted by their phones?
I can assure you the last thing kids are doing on their phones is researching anything lesson related in school.
Is that based on a fact? Or an assumption? "
Fact. I live it. |
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"Apart from the example given before where if it wasn't for a child having a phone, the allegations of a teacher being a predator would have been swept under the carpet... "
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I think smart phones should be banned.
Children should only be allowed the symbian Nokia phones with no internet or social media nonsense.
They should only have them to make and receive calls in case of emergencies. |
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By *rmootMan 7 weeks ago
Horsforth |
The high school my 2 kids went to do have a phone ban. Whilst they are not banned from having them in bags. They are not permitted to use them whilst on school grounds. If they are seen out, even at break times and lunch. They are confiscated and kept at student reception and have to be collected at the end of the day. Parents are also notified.
A total ban from having them wouldn't work as they need them for bus passes etc which are all digital and paid for online these days. They also have to be able to reach their parents etc after school. Total ban no. In bags during school hours. Then yes. Seems a sensible compromise |
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"The high school my 2 kids went to do have a phone ban. Whilst they are not banned from having them in bags. They are not permitted to use them whilst on school grounds. If they are seen out, even at break times and lunch. They are confiscated and kept at student reception and have to be collected at the end of the day. Parents are also notified.
A total ban from having them wouldn't work as they need them for bus passes etc which are all digital and paid for online these days. They also have to be able to reach their parents etc after school. Total ban no. In bags during school hours. Then yes. Seems a sensible compromise "
Handed in on entry. Returned on exit.
Much more reliable. |
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By *oxesMan 7 weeks ago
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"Are you also following the latest news about it of how there will be a new law to ban mobile phones in schools? Apparently the government will seek to make existing recommendations on phone in school statuary.
Why the change you might ask? Well it comes after one study found that it can take students up to 20 minutes to refocus after being distracted by a notification.
It would be interesting to see what your view on it is, is this change just about the time it takes for students to refocus or is there something more to it that that?
So I guess that this change have to be about distraction, rather than anything else. I think that they shouldnt use their mobile phones in school, because the school is about learning, not social media "
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"Apart from the example given before where if it wasn't for a child having a phone, the allegations of a teacher being a predator would have been swept under the carpet... "
No. Children making such allegations are supported 100 per cent. They don't need photographic evidence to be heard. |
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Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should.
Probably because the messages aren't that important. Unless it's an actual emergency you don't need to contact school.
Unfortunately thats not the case. A good friend of mine is part of a campaign to try improve school standards, he deals with constant emails of schools doing wrong and not contacting parent.
Search Ebury Offical on Tiktok and google. Just look at how much is going wrong in schools. If the kids could pull a phone out and video half of whats on there, there would be hell on across the country.
Teachers getting distracted by ankles of young girls. Young girls having to prove they need to change sanitary products or even prove its that time of the month. This whole ban the phone thing is to distract from the real issues of education! "
this is one hell of a skewed view ..... |
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All kids and parents should watch the c4 documentary last year with Emma and Matt Willis.
2 x hr long programs covering various aspects of phones on kids / in schools.
We need to take action.
And parents who give kids in pushchairs a screen should be given a punishment. |
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Parent can ring school if it's an emergency
They may need them to and from school so they should be handed in and locked away.
The problem is, theres loads of reports of schools not passing messages onto pupils or schools not ringing parents when they should.
Probably because the messages aren't that important. Unless it's an actual emergency you don't need to contact school.
Unfortunately thats not the case. A good friend of mine is part of a campaign to try improve school standards, he deals with constant emails of schools doing wrong and not contacting parent.
Search Ebury Offical on Tiktok and google. Just look at how much is going wrong in schools. If the kids could pull a phone out and video half of whats on there, there would be hell on across the country.
Teachers getting distracted by ankles of young girls. Young girls having to prove they need to change sanitary products or even prove its that time of the month. This whole ban the phone thing is to distract from the real issues of education!
this is one hell of a skewed view ..... "
Call it a skewed view all you want, but enjoy walking round with your eyes closed and doing as your told.
Or you can use your own mind, go do the research, look up the campaign by Ebury Offical, they get bombarded with messages where schools have over stepped the mark. Teachers claiming to be distracted by what pupils are wearing, yet no question of why their looking. Schools trying to ban phone use outside of school or at weekends. Schools taking phones off pupils and refusing to hand them back to parents till end of term (thats theft, confiscation is temporary and must be returned to the owner with in reasonable time) Pupils going into isolation for having the wrong shade of black socks. Kids being refused food, because their 10p short on their accounts, young girls being denyed toilet access while on periods, children being searched without their parent or guardian being present including being made to remove clothing..... I can go on and on, but the complaints from parents are there, its happening yet all people can care about is "should they have phones"
Im not saying its all schools, but there are schools where its happening.
As for the teacher being caught out as a pred... that teacher had taught at the school for over 20 years, he was there when I went to school, back then people said he was weird and creepy. He would stare at the girls when they passed, girls would avoid walking past his class room, yet no matter what was said, nothing happened for over 20 years. Until a kid got video evidence. |
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"Apart from the example given before where if it wasn't for a child having a phone, the allegations of a teacher being a predator would have been swept under the carpet...
Tbh, I'm amazed that a teaching trade union would be okay with kids filming teachers at work "
No idea if they were or wernt, but end of the day, the kid recording that teacher just done everyone a favour, one less pred around kids.
But if he wasnt dodgy, he wouldnt have been on camera and the Union wouldnt need to worry about it. 🤷♂️ |
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By *ddie1966Man 7 weeks ago
Paper Town Central, Essex. |
It may have already been said, but, ban mobile phones.... No.
Now, if you said ban Smart Phones..... Definitely.
As a kid, my mum and day always made sure I'd got 2 shillings on me for that emergency phone call. Not many phone _oxes around nowadays, so a very, very basic phone is the sensible option. |
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I think they should still be allowed their phones in case of emergencies but not once their lessons start. Get them back at lunchtime then go without again for afternoon classes.
I have nearly ran over several kids in the last year because they are too busy on their phones to even check if traffic is coming! Technology/social media has become a real issue for this younger generation. Whilst the internet can be great at times it can also be a bloody nightmare!! |
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"I think they should still be allowed their phones in case of emergencies but not once their lessons start. Get them back at lunchtime then go without again for afternoon classes.
I have nearly ran over several kids in the last year because they are too busy on their phones to even check if traffic is coming! Technology/social media has become a real issue for this younger generation. Whilst the internet can be great at times it can also be a bloody nightmare!!"
I was going to say isnt that a parents job to teach them on the dangers etc, but adults are just as bad. Ive lost track of how many close calls I had when driving hgvs where adults have just stepped out while on phones. Or the amount of adults that have to touch a phone while driving, theyll get to a red light and check it and reply to texts |
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"This might sound a tad draconian but i don't think under 16s should have smart phones at all as long as they have access to a computer at home for their studies. I don't see why they need anything beyond a simple block phone for calls and texts so that contact can be made in an emergency.
At such a tender age i feel that they are ill equipped to handle the often vile and inappropriate content that's so easily available, not to mention the bullying and trolling they can be subjected to.
Why you put restrictions on their phone and any sensible parent would monitor it.
Kids are smart and often much more tech-savvy than their parents, i wouldn't put a guarantee on any such restrictions working for long with parents remaining clueless.
Even a techno-moron like me can get around the age verification legislation so easily as to make it pointless.
Unless my kids learn my passcode they can't do anything online without my approval.
So that works at home. There are places in phones where things can be hidden from prying eyes even when the phone is unlocked. Kids can delete everything they've been doing that they shouldn't as soon as they've finished doing it, i should know, that's my MO.
It's a short-sighted parent that thinks they can guarantee they're stopping their kids from viewing harmful content. It's much easier to ban them from having smart phones in the first place.
Pro tip, those things you deleted still exist, you just can't see them.
That incognito mode you use, not as incognito as you think.
Do you think the average parent will be able to retrieve what's been deleted? If it can't be seen it might as well not exist.
It's not overly difficult to do. A quick Google and YouTube video tutorial, no different than watching how to bleed a radiator.
The question is the average parent going to bother. And there we have it, right back to how much is the parent bothering with these things instead of expecting the schools and government to do it for them."
This from Google Help: "if permanently deleted, specialised data recovery software may work, though it is not guaranteed".  |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 6 weeks ago
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"The high school my 2 kids went to do have a phone ban. Whilst they are not banned from having them in bags. They are not permitted to use them whilst on school grounds. If they are seen out, even at break times and lunch. They are confiscated and kept at student reception and have to be collected at the end of the day. Parents are also notified.
A total ban from having them wouldn't work as they need them for bus passes etc which are all digital and paid for online these days. They also have to be able to reach their parents etc after school. Total ban no. In bags during school hours. Then yes. Seems a sensible compromise "
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"It makes you wonder doesnt it, how did we who lived without mobile phones during the school years manage it too "
We had bicycles, too, so weren't dependent on parental contact for school chauffering! |
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