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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " Totally agree. And it works both ways. A single guy ( #notallmen) doesn’t oblige to fuck everyone who dropped him a message first. Though some aiming for that  | |||
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"I mean yeah, we're all here for the same thing, doesn't mean we all want to shag our way through the whole site! " I’m being sarcastic. | |||
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"Agree.. and the sites called Fab.. friends and benefits it's not called..the sex site.. the no cash exchanged but expecting prostitution standards of instant .. But then again it has to be working for some guys and the women w no walls or standards or it wouldn't be this bad." Exactly this! So many men expect instashag and it’s not a sex site it’s a swingers site! Big difference! The abuse for not answering is out of order, my block button is used a lot lol | |||
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"The numbers are lopsided for sure but there is a certain amount of 'pussy privilege' on fab where the attitude towards guys is less than savoury. That can be the notion that we should be grateful for any attention we get or are not even deserving of attention simply because we are guys. And there's couple's too who will just treat single men like meat. It's hard to call that behaviour out because the sheer volume of men that are actually acting like assholes is staggering and totally drowns out most other things." There's bad behaviour from all types of people on Fab. Single guys get a bad rep as the are so many on Fab. As with most couples, 99% of the messages we recieve are from single guys. Therefore we at going to see more poor behaviour from them. | |||
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"The numbers are lopsided for sure but there is a certain amount of 'pussy privilege' on fab where the attitude towards guys is less than savoury. That can be the notion that we should be grateful for any attention we get or are not even deserving of attention simply because we are guys. And there's couple's too who will just treat single men like meat. It's hard to call that behaviour out because the sheer volume of men that are actually acting like assholes is staggering and totally drowns out most other things." Agreed with all of that; its a balanced view. Every gender has the propensity to behave poorly on here. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " I agree nor do we single man owe yiu anything specially the ones who ask for their site supporters pass to be paid for them. Or money because they. Ant pay their hairdressers bill. Or demanding to be treated like a princess when they clearly are not. Entitlement is so unattractive isn't it? | |||
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"That's very true and there's definitely pussy privilege as a pp stated, purely because of the numbers game. But the abuse is only ever really from the single men in my experience " And yes I am fully aware that none of you will go anywhere near me for that view but I wonder want you to to be honest. My view of you .iroors the view you have of me but at least I am honest. | |||
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"That's very true and there's definitely pussy privilege as a pp stated, purely because of the numbers game. But the abuse is only ever really from the single men in my experience " Agreed. The overtly aggressive behaviour is male dominated. Interestingly many of my female friends on fab will say that the poorest behaviour often comes from the male half of a couple. I have seen this to be largely true in clubs and social events and chat groups where married guys get away with saying and doing things that would get a single guy blacklisted in two seconds flat. | |||
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"I imagine that many of the entitled men find they don't get very far and either change tactics or give up. Some, however will get angrier and fire off more abusive messages. Not sure how many go each way. " they dont tho the guys who do well are the ones that leave the scene mainly because they have gotten into a relationship ...those that dont do well or get nowhere tend to stay on fab as they dont have much else | |||
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"I imagine that many of the entitled men find they don't get very far and either change tactics or give up. Some, however will get angrier and fire off more abusive messages. Not sure how many go each way. they dont tho the guys who do well are the ones that leave the scene mainly because they have gotten into a relationship ...those that dont do well or get nowhere tend to stay on fab as they dont have much else " That's a pretty broad sweeping statement and an interesting definition of 'doing well ' I know many single men on Feb that do very well. Decent single men are in demand. | |||
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"Agree.. and the sites called Fab.. friends and benefits it's not called..the sex site.. the no cash exchanged but expecting prostitution standards of instant .. But then again it has to be working for some guys and the women w no walls or standards or it wouldn't be this bad." Is that what the F A B stands for? I never knew that. I do feel there is a sense of entitlement with some users and an aire of negativity at times. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " Agreeeeeed! | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " We're asking for equal rights. Feminism and all | |||
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"I imagine that many of the entitled men find they don't get very far and either change tactics or give up. Some, however will get angrier and fire off more abusive messages. Not sure how many go each way. they dont tho the guys who do well are the ones that leave the scene mainly because they have gotten into a relationship ...those that dont do well or get nowhere tend to stay on fab as they dont have much else That's a pretty broad sweeping statement and an interesting definition of 'doing well ' I know many single men on Feb that do very well. Decent single men are in demand." not really most nice men get snapped up its just the way of the world i guess and i never said theirs no nice single men if the was not id not be here as i only meet guys via fab | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. " sadly I agree with you | |||
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"And this ladies n gentlemen is why I very rarely dm anyone! Due to the idiot single guys who if they don't get a reply within 5 minutes then send abusive messages." We very rarely get this. Sure we receive a lot of “meet me right now” which are easily ignored but I’d say 80% or so of our “reasonable” messages are polite and most appreciate a reply even if it’s a regrettable no. We do feel for single guys on Fab as it’s often pretty hopeless but we appreciate your interest. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. | |||
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"I mean yeah, we're all here for the same thing, doesn't mean we all want to shag our way through the whole site! I’m being sarcastic. "Hey, you've got your filters set so I can't message you, but I have 10 minutes when I'm passing through Gatwick, so can you be around in case I need a fuck? | |||
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"That's very true and there's definitely pussy privilege as a pp stated, purely because of the numbers game. But the abuse is only ever really from the single men in my experience " ‘Pussy privilege’ is definitely a thing in Fab, and more so in the clubs, but who wouldn’t want to have the commodity everybody is looking for? 
I have seen examples of mail some guys send to women in here, and I have been shocked by it, you do have my sympathies there.
I’ve never understood the entitlement issue though? Anyone who can have sex with someone without any level of attraction is either a sex worker, or someone who uses sex workers. There are sites for this, but Fab isn’t (supposed to be) like that…. | |||
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"And this ladies n gentlemen is why I very rarely dm anyone! Due to the idiot single guys who if they don't get a reply within 5 minutes then send abusive messages." Use the “idiot single guys” to your benefit; they make your message stand out…..  | |||
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"And this ladies n gentlemen is why I very rarely dm anyone! Due to the idiot single guys who if they don't get a reply within 5 minutes then send abusive messages. Use the “idiot single guys” to your benefit; they make your message stand out….. "Yeah... isn't working for me.....I must be an idiot then hahah. I'm of course joking here about what you said but we both know it isn't as simple as that. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure." This might be one of the most accurate things and thought provoking I've ever read on these forums. It's not easy being anyone is all I'd add but think you are pretty accurate, granted is a small few who are actually just horrible people but I'd assume that is a very very small number. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " Then delete and block them, it's a common experience for women and couples on here and doesn't need a thread. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. This might be one of the most accurate things and thought provoking I've ever read on these forums. It's not easy being anyone is all I'd add but think you are pretty accurate, granted is a small few who are actually just horrible people but I'd assume that is a very very small number. " Have to agree, bang on the money. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure." Honestly this just sounds like apologism for shitty behaviour. Everyone, male and female, deals with rejection. Most people learn how to regulate their emotions and behaviour and do so in public I'd wager most of the abusive men on here wouldn't be so brave with their words if they didn't have anonymity to protect them. | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. "  | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Honestly this just sounds like apologism for shitty behaviour. Everyone, male and female, deals with rejection. Most people learn how to regulate their emotions and behaviour and do so in public I'd wager most of the abusive men on here wouldn't be so brave with their words if they didn't have anonymity to protect them. " "Everyone deals with rejection..." isn't the same as "every member of the sex i am attracted to has rejected me since puberty despite decades of effort to meet someone". It might be weak apologism but i maintain that it isnt entitlement that is the issue but a sad indictment of our alienated culture that has romantically disenfranchised and demoralised essentially good men to the point they become bad men. Such men don't feel entitled to female attention but they do crave it in a way few women understand. As we know, female in_oxes on fab are filled up regardless of what is written in the bio or shown in a profile pic. The same is true of phone messages and fb messages, DMs etc... Women who make even a token effort will find they get attention and feeds the beed to feel wanted and validated. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure." Women get rejected as well. No one should be lashing out at anyone because they didn’t get what they wanted. They are not 5. Stamp you feet and sulk because you didn’t get what you wanted wasn’t acceptable when you were 5 and it’s certainly not acceptable when you are a supposed grown up. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Women get rejected as well. No one should be lashing out at anyone because they didn’t get what they wanted. They are not 5. Stamp you feet and sulk because you didn’t get what you wanted wasn’t acceptable when you were 5 and it’s certainly not acceptable when you are a supposed grown up. " You are fully correct in what your saying and I agree but I think the point they are trying to make is that if a bloke is say sending 10 messages and get zero replies for example then they could get frustrated and act in that way and that would just be an example of fab. Im not saying its right because its clearly not by the way. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Honestly this just sounds like apologism for shitty behaviour. Everyone, male and female, deals with rejection. Most people learn how to regulate their emotions and behaviour and do so in public I'd wager most of the abusive men on here wouldn't be so brave with their words if they didn't have anonymity to protect them. "Everyone deals with rejection..." isn't the same as "every member of the sex i am attracted to has rejected me since puberty despite decades of effort to meet someone". It might be weak apologism but i maintain that it isnt entitlement that is the issue but a sad indictment of our alienated culture that has romantically disenfranchised and demoralised essentially good men to the point they become bad men. Such men don't feel entitled to female attention but they do crave it in a way few women understand. As we know, female in_oxes on fab are filled up regardless of what is written in the bio or shown in a profile pic. The same is true of phone messages and fb messages, DMs etc... Women who make even a token effort will find they get attention and feeds the beed to feel wanted and validated. " This really comes across as incel philosophy. That may not be what you intended but that's how it reads to me. The assumption that men have been rejected since forever and therefore have reason to lash out is just full of holes. Which men? Just the rude ones? How to do you know anything about the lives of those men? Most men do not spend their lives suffering rejection. No, there is no excuse for abuse. If there are men that are butt hurt from rejection then let them learn the ropes and make the effort like everyone else has to. As for your comments about women. I feel like your statements about how easy it is for them truly lacks in understanding and empathy. Just because men exist that are ready to give a woman attention doesn't mean that she wants it or finds those men attractive. I have more than one female friend on fab that despairs in how difficult it is to find a decent guy that meets their needs. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " No one owes anyone anything | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Women get rejected as well. No one should be lashing out at anyone because they didn’t get what they wanted. They are not 5. Stamp you feet and sulk because you didn’t get what you wanted wasn’t acceptable when you were 5 and it’s certainly not acceptable when you are a supposed grown up. You are fully correct in what your saying and I agree but I think the point they are trying to make is that if a bloke is say sending 10 messages and get zero replies for example then they could get frustrated and act in that way and that would just be an example of fab. Im not saying its right because its clearly not by the way. " They could send 100 messages and get no replies. So what. Get over yourself. Women are not there to please men You come across as apologetic for these abusive men. | |||
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"Anyone who can have sex with someone without any level of attraction is either a sex worker, or someone who uses sex workers. There are sites for this, but Fab isn’t (supposed to be) like that…." Wow now that’s a bold and unsubstantiated claim if not downright judgmental. There are many (of which I am one) where it’s about the scene/event. Look at group events/greedy girl nights. Not all can have spark and it’s not about that. It’s a case of your kink is not my kink and that is ok. Judgement is never okay. I think this site, and any others, is a case of you do you, without affecting others. If people need a spark that’s great, and they need to do what they need to do and respect nos. If people need socials, great, but respect it when people say no. It’s as simple as consent is key, and don’t be obnoxious. For everyone. No means no. No is also a full sentence. If one hears it, say no worries, have a great day. And move on with life. | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Women get rejected as well. No one should be lashing out at anyone because they didn’t get what they wanted. They are not 5. Stamp you feet and sulk because you didn’t get what you wanted wasn’t acceptable when you were 5 and it’s certainly not acceptable when you are a supposed grown up. You are fully correct in what your saying and I agree but I think the point they are trying to make is that if a bloke is say sending 10 messages and get zero replies for example then they could get frustrated and act in that way and that would just be an example of fab. Im not saying its right because its clearly not by the way. They could send 100 messages and get no replies. So what. Get over yourself. Women are not there to please men You come across as apologetic for these abusive men. " Of you have taken that from my reply that is up to you but clearly wasn't. As we all know things arnt as clear cut like that in life! | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " I agree with you 100% it does spoil it for the genuine ones on here. But I always say manners cost nothing | |||
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"In our experience, the problem is mainly married/attached vanilla's think using this scene is an easy way to get their dicks wet. The genuine swinger guys who we know are lovely respectful guys and we've a lot of time for them. 9/10 guys who message us end up getting blocked as they are of the above fraternity and downright disrespectful pigs. Any guy who messages us, who is polite and respectful we're happy to chat with or even social with in the clubs, even if we've no interest in playing. We actually took a newbie to a club with us for his first visit as he was too nervous going alone. We introduced him to a few friends and he ended up having an absolute blast, played with 3 couples and a single lady lol I love the single guys being a straight woman, but I've zero tolerance for the cretins who don't know how to behave. So yes sadly the majority on here spoil it for the minority "Wow! What a lucky bloke your friend was, being introduced to the club scene like that! I have heard of similar, first-time club visit experiences for a single guy, but I’ve never been so fortunate myself. Fair play to you both though, for making your friend’s first time one to remember for all the right reasons | |||
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"We specifically ask guys to wink if they are interested in us and put in our profile we will message them if there is a mutual interest, yet we still get bombarded with messages and receive abuse when we don’t reply." A lot dont read profiles thats why that happens. | |||
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"In our experience, the problem is mainly married/attached vanilla's think using this scene is an easy way to get their dicks wet. The genuine swinger guys who we know are lovely respectful guys and we've a lot of time for them. 9/10 guys who message us end up getting blocked as they are of the above fraternity and downright disrespectful pigs. Any guy who messages us, who is polite and respectful we're happy to chat with or even social with in the clubs, even if we've no interest in playing. We actually took a newbie to a club with us for his first visit as he was too nervous going alone. We introduced him to a few friends and he ended up having an absolute blast, played with 3 couples and a single lady lol I love the single guys being a straight woman, but I've zero tolerance for the cretins who don't know how to behave. So yes sadly the majority on here spoil it for the minority
Wow! What a lucky bloke your friend was, being introduced to the club scene like that! I have heard of similar, first-time club visit experiences for a single guy, but I’ve never been so fortunate myself. Fair play to you both though, for making your friend’s first time one to remember for all the right reasons "We actually met him on here, only been on scene 3 months. But his profile and respectful behaviour was on point. Had a good veri from playing with a long established swinger couple multiple times and a single lady. Nice lad. I did drill him on club etiquette and how not to act like the wanking dead...it paid off for him lol  | |||
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"We specifically ask guys to wink if they are interested in us and put in our profile we will message them if there is a mutual interest, yet we still get bombarded with messages and receive abuse when we don’t reply. A lot dont read profiles thats why that happens. " Yes so we just use it as a filter, we block any men who message. If they can’t take the time to read our profile, we have no time for them. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " But why are you even Ona sex site if you aren’t prepared to fuck the first man who sends you a message titled ‘fuk now’? | |||
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"In our experience, the problem is mainly married/attached vanilla's think using this scene is an easy way to get their dicks wet. The genuine swinger guys who we know are lovely respectful guys and we've a lot of time for them. 9/10 guys who message us end up getting blocked as they are of the above fraternity and downright disrespectful pigs. Any guy who messages us, who is polite and respectful we're happy to chat with or even social with in the clubs, even if we've no interest in playing. We actually took a newbie to a club with us for his first visit as he was too nervous going alone. We introduced him to a few friends and he ended up having an absolute blast, played with 3 couples and a single lady lol I love the single guys being a straight woman, but I've zero tolerance for the cretins who don't know how to behave. So yes sadly the majority on here spoil it for the minority
Wow! What a lucky bloke your friend was, being introduced to the club scene like that! I have heard of similar, first-time club visit experiences for a single guy, but I’ve never been so fortunate myself. Fair play to you both though, for making your friend’s first time one to remember for all the right reasons
We actually met him on here, only been on scene 3 months. But his profile and respectful behaviour was on point. Had a good veri from playing with a long established swinger couple multiple times and a single lady. Nice lad. I did drill him on club etiquette and how not to act like the wanking dead...it paid off for him lol "Fair play to you all! I found the club scene to be far too clicky to get an ‘in’ as a single guy, whereas using Fab to meet likeminded friendly people has proved far more successful for me. | |||
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"Chill out ffs...have a life and enjoy every moment. Today we are here, tomorrow we might be gone. " Sure. It's why I don't waste my precious finite life catering to the demands of people I don't want to meet  | |||
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"I imagine that many of the entitled men find they don't get very far and either change tactics or give up. Some, however will get angrier and fire off more abusive messages. Not sure how many go each way. they dont tho the guys who do well are the ones that leave the scene mainly because they have gotten into a relationship ...those that dont do well or get nowhere tend to stay on fab as they dont have much else " So where does that leave me then am I entitled because I stay on on fab? I am probably classed as one of the successful ones, I do get meets but then I get myself out there and go to socials. My veris will testify that. There are some of us single men that actually enjoy the social side of swinging as much as the physical act of sex. I stay on fab because I enjoy the forums and the social aspect, I don’t look for meets on here. And yes there are a lot of entitled men on here but the same can be said for women and couples. If you worked out a percentage based on a pro rata basis I don’t think you would find much difference, it’s just the sheer number of man on here makes it look lopsided… | |||
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"When i first joined and then again during covid i got a few abusive messages from women after posting innocuous comments in the forum. I've never really understood why men would randomly send an abusive message simply for being told "no thanks". It is indicative of a lot though - many, many men are so demoralised by rejection over decades of time that they become angry and resentful. This isn't something many women deal with and there is a huge amount of ignorance and dismissiveness about it. I don't think such messages or men deserve or warrant huge amounts of empathy but it is worth acknowledging it tends to come from a place of utter desperation for love and attention and intimacy as much as physical pleasure. Honestly this just sounds like apologism for shitty behaviour. Everyone, male and female, deals with rejection. Most people learn how to regulate their emotions and behaviour and do so in public I'd wager most of the abusive men on here wouldn't be so brave with their words if they didn't have anonymity to protect them. "Everyone deals with rejection..." isn't the same as "every member of the sex i am attracted to has rejected me since puberty despite decades of effort to meet someone". It might be weak apologism but i maintain that it isnt entitlement that is the issue but a sad indictment of our alienated culture that has romantically disenfranchised and demoralised essentially good men to the point they become bad men. Such men don't feel entitled to female attention but they do crave it in a way few women understand. As we know, female in_oxes on fab are filled up regardless of what is written in the bio or shown in a profile pic. The same is true of phone messages and fb messages, DMs etc... Women who make even a token effort will find they get attention and feeds the beed to feel wanted and validated. This really comes across as incel philosophy. That may not be what you intended but that's how it reads to me. The assumption that men have been rejected since forever and therefore have reason to lash out is just full of holes. Which men? Just the rude ones? How to do you know anything about the lives of those men? Most men do not spend their lives suffering rejection. No, there is no excuse for abuse. If there are men that are butt hurt from rejection then let them learn the ropes and make the effort like everyone else has to. As for your comments about women. I feel like your statements about how easy it is for them truly lacks in understanding and empathy. Just because men exist that are ready to give a woman attention doesn't mean that she wants it or finds those men attractive. I have more than one female friend on fab that despairs in how difficult it is to find a decent guy that meets their needs." The incel community is obviously toxic online but being involuntarily celebate is a thing. Perhaps what I am saying is those men are to be pitied | |||
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" The incel community is obviously toxic online but being involuntarily celebate is a thing. Perhaps what I am saying is those men are to be pitied " We should pity men that are abusive to women because they can't get laid? No. | |||
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"Fully agree, although it works both ways. In general there are an awful lot of rude, pushy, or very egotistical people on here who think they're God's gift to the other sex and they'd be doing you a favour by gracing you with their presence. Anyone who comes across as rude, arrogant or in love with themselves (normally those who have a huge list of "demands" to meet on their profile or "don't even bother messaging" generally we just block and move on. Plenty more people on here who are genuine decent lovely people." Yes , I've definitely seen this on profiles. I'd rather not have any dealings with rude and disrespectful people. I often wonder what they are like in the real world. | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. " Have to agree there I suppose it’s the power they have in the fact that men are wanting them and arrogance develops Even the ugly fat ones can display such arrogance! | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. Have to agree there I suppose it’s the power they have in the fact that men are wanting them and arrogance develops Even the ugly fat ones can display such arrogance!" I can’t imagine why a silver tongued charmer like yourself would experience negative reactions from women. | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. Have to agree there I suppose it’s the power they have in the fact that men are wanting them and arrogance develops Even the ugly fat ones can display such arrogance! I can’t imagine why a silver tongued charmer like yourself would experience negative reactions from women." I take your point but there are some on here who are way beyond having let themselves go You know the ones who in real life haven’t a chance of pulling However on here guys are often phishing for sexual contacts and that’s all The usual give away is just a picture of their eyes on a profile | |||
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"To be fair the arrogance of some women on here is also truly staggering. Have to agree there I suppose it’s the power they have in the fact that men are wanting them and arrogance develops Even the ugly fat ones can display such arrogance! I can’t imagine why a silver tongued charmer like yourself would experience negative reactions from women. I take your point but there are some on here who are way beyond having let themselves go You know the ones who in real life haven’t a chance of pulling However on here guys are often phishing for sexual contacts and that’s all The usual give away is just a picture of their eyes on a profile " Keep digging. | |||
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"Today a guy came into my inbox and ordered me to 1) go to the gym more because I'm obese and 2) stop sharing updates about going to the gym because I'm not in shape enough to post about it???
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"Agree.. and the sites called Fab.. friends and benefits it's not called..the sex site.. the no cash exchanged but expecting prostitution standards of instant .. But then again it has to be working for some guys and the women w no walls or standards or it wouldn't be this bad." Some woman have posted, no chit chat: just fuck me then leave, so I know there's always an exception to the rule. | |||
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"Agree.. and the sites called Fab.. friends and benefits it's not called..the sex site.. the no cash exchanged but expecting prostitution standards of instant .. But then again it has to be working for some guys and the women w no walls or standards or it wouldn't be this bad. Some woman have posted, no chit chat: just fuck me then leave, so I know there's always an exception to the rule. " Yeah. My stance is sort of, respect what other people want (within site rules). Some people want friendships, some don't, and that's fine (whether they're compatible with me or not) | |||
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"The numbers are lopsided for sure but there is a certain amount of 'pussy privilege' on fab where the attitude towards guys is less than savoury. That can be the notion that we should be grateful for any attention we get or are not even deserving of attention simply because we are guys. And there's couple's too who will just treat single men like meat. It's hard to call that behaviour out because the sheer volume of men that are actually acting like assholes is staggering and totally drowns out most other things." You should make a fwmales profile fund some pics online stick em on and see the types of messages you get (I'm not suggesting you actually do it as it would be a fake profile) but you might understand a bit better what it's like and not all of us are pussy privileged | |||
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"Today a guy came into my inbox and ordered me to 1) go to the gym more because I'm obese and 2) stop sharing updates about going to the gym because I'm not in shape enough to post about it???
A few messages later he seemed shocked that I didn't want to fuck him - Xeno
I love that - insult you then want to fuck you.
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. " There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Understood..but I'm sensing you still don't understand entitlement. | |||
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"Agree.. and the sites called Fab.. friends and benefits it's not called..the sex site.. the no cash exchanged but expecting prostitution standards of instant .. But then again it has to be working for some guys and the women w no walls or standards or it wouldn't be this bad. Some woman have posted, no chit chat: just fuck me then leave, so I know there's always an exception to the rule. " And that's fine but don't expect me or all women to be that willing to take whatever has a pulse if it turns them on so be it...my profile clearly has higher standards so It shouldn't be confusing seeing there's a difference. Guys brush one expectation because it's just a "sex site" to them. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Understood..but I'm sensing you still don't understand entitlement." She feels entitled every man who messages her must send a face pic. Or else. You can't get more entitled than that. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. " Nailed it. Men who think us having standards, requirements if men *choose* to message us and boundaries is "entitled" are hilarious
I block smokers, cheaters and anyone who sends me an unsolicited dick pic. My profile is clear on those boundaries. I have a "one strike and they don't get a chance to do it again" policy.
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"legit just happened I commented on a diff post on forum get a PM do you have kik eh yes what’s your username ummm never said id give you it, why would i randomly give out my username want to ogle from afar knock yourself out on public profile but don’t expect woman to just give you access to other profiles outside fab "Right? Experience has shown if they want to take chat offsite immediately, there's usually some reason, and generally one I'm not going to be comfortable with. | |||
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"legit just happened I commented on a diff post on forum get a PM do you have kik eh yes what’s your username ummm never said id give you it, why would i randomly give out my username want to ogle from afar knock yourself out on public profile but don’t expect woman to just give you access to other profiles outside fab
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Experience has shown if they want to take chat offsite immediately, there's usually some reason, and generally one I'm not going to be comfortable with.
"i only go off site when i’m comfortable with it, and pushing it won’t make me i think our profile says once chats established not 1 or 2 messages plus once you go offsite if like me your of a certain age and a member of the CRAFT club you can’t remb who a random chat belongs to profile wise | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Nailed it. Men who think us having standards, requirements if men *choose* to message us and boundaries is "entitled" are hilarious
I block smokers, cheaters and anyone who sends me an unsolicited dick pic. My profile is clear on those boundaries. I have a "one strike and they don't get a chance to do it again" policy.
How terribly entitled of me ."It's basic decency to treat people the way you want to be treated. Men have professions and social circles and a life outside fab too. If you want a man to take all the risk to fuck that up for a negligible chance that you might like his face amongst the 200000 faces you demand to have to choose from, don't expect men to treat you with kindness in return. The shear arrogance from most women and treating men like subhumans on fab is staggering | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Understood..but I'm sensing you still don't understand entitlement. She feels entitled every man who messages her must send a face pic. Or else. You can't get more entitled than that. " No! She is stating her preference from people who message her. Don't like it. Don't message. She is using it as a filter not an entitlement. | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Understood..but I'm sensing you still don't understand entitlement. She feels entitled every man who messages her must send a face pic. Or else. You can't get more entitled than that. No! She is stating her preference from people who message her. Don't like it. Don't message. She is using it as a filter not an entitlement." Ok, apply the same rule for men. They have standards and they expect you to fuck them, when and how they want. Don't come here winging about why they are not treating you like the Virgin Mary on a swinging website. | |||
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"The thing is everyone is entitled to ask for a photo and offer nothing, not even a reply, in return. Fab allows everyone to set up their profile on their own terms. You don't have to like it. People can also feel like they are entitled to a fuck just because they want one. They won't get it but hey, that's never stopped anyone moaning about it. The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat m Carry on "The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat me like a queen. Or el | |||
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"Ok, apply the same rule for men. They have standards and they expect you to fuck them, when and how they want."
Yeah, expecting sex, particularly on completely selfish terms, because you CHOOSE to message someone, is absolutely the same as expecting someone to send a photo when they CHOOSE to message someone else.
Still, sure, you can demand women fuck you when and how you want. If those are your "standards", you stick to them! Good luck with that.
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"The thing is everyone is entitled to ask for a photo and offer nothing, not even a reply, in return. Fab allows everyone to set up their profile on their own terms. You don't have to like it. People can also feel like they are entitled to a fuck just because they want one. They won't get it but hey, that's never stopped anyone moaning about it. The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat m Carry on
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"Ok, apply the same rule for men. They have standards and they expect you to fuck them, when and how they want.
Yeah, expecting sex, particularly on completely selfish terms, because you CHOOSE to message someone, is absolutely the same as expecting someone to send a photo when they CHOOSE to message someone else.
Still, sure, you can demand women fuck you when and how you want. If those are your "standards", you stick to them! Good luck with that.
I find it endlessly amusing when men who clearly neither like nor respect women are still here, desperately trying to fuck us."Everyone is here for selfish reasons. But the power of the cunt privilege has trumped basic standards of "Treat others the same way you want to be treated" I don't give toss if you have 10000 men lining up to satisfy your humiliating demands. If you want a face pic from me, get ready to send one. You ask 1st you send it 1st. Even the fat ugly women here behave as if they're Queen Sheba. And the Hypocrisy of coming afterwards preaching about feminism, equality and a Mysogyny problem. | |||
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"The thing is everyone is entitled to ask for a photo and offer nothing, not even a reply, in return. Fab allows everyone to set up their profile on their own terms. You don't have to like it. People can also feel like they are entitled to a fuck just because they want one. They won't get it but hey, that's never stopped anyone moaning about it. The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat m Carry on
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"The thing is everyone is entitled to ask for a photo and offer nothing, not even a reply, in return. Fab allows everyone to set up their profile on their own terms. You don't have to like it. People can also feel like they are entitled to a fuck just because they want one. They won't get it but hey, that's never stopped anyone moaning about it. The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat m Carry on
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"Everyone is here for selfish reasons. " If you paid attention, you'd find that the successful ones want mutually satisfying meets. Most enjoy giving pleasure as much as receiving it. The selfish/angry/hateful ones, who bizarrely always seem to think everyone else is also just like them, are the bitter, twisted ones who don't get meets, or interest from anyone, and whine endlessly about it. | |||
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"The thing is everyone is entitled to ask for a photo and offer nothing, not even a reply, in return. Fab allows everyone to set up their profile on their own terms. You don't have to like it. People can also feel like they are entitled to a fuck just because they want one. They won't get it but hey, that's never stopped anyone moaning about it. The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat m Carry on
The cunt privilege standards: I can treat you like trash, and you treat me like a queen. Or el
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"Everyone is here for selfish reasons. If you paid attention, you'd find that the successful ones want mutually satisfying meets. Most enjoy giving pleasure as much as receiving it. The selfish/angry/hateful ones, who bizarrely always seem to think everyone else is also just like them, are the bitter, twisted ones who don't get meets, or interest from anyone, and whine endlessly about it. " A mutually satisfying meet doesn't start with: You are trash I am queen. | |||
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"As we know, female in_oxes on fab are filled up regardless of what is written in the bio or shown in a profile pic. " How does that help when most of the messages are from men who don't fit what I'm looking for? I'm allergic to tobacco smoke, so I don't meet smokers. I'm clear about that in my profile, in more than one place but I still get loads of messages from men who ignore it. I won't meet people cheating on a partner and I'm clear about that, but, you guessed it, I get loads of messages from cheaters, ignoring my preferences and boundaries. Ditto for other preferences. I'm not here for "attention". Messages from incompatible people are not a plus, they are a drain on my time and energy. I would prefer no messages to an endless stream of messages from people who don't fit what I'm seeking, (because they don't care what I want, they just want to get their dicks wet). Seriously. Messages from incompatible people just wastes my time, and I don't have masses of free time to waste. | |||
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"As we know, female in_oxes on fab are filled up regardless of what is written in the bio or shown in a profile pic. How does that help when most of the messages are from men who don't fit what I'm looking for? I'm allergic to tobacco smoke, so I don't meet smokers. I'm clear about that in my profile, in more than one place but I still get loads of messages from men who ignore it. I won't meet people cheating on a partner and I'm clear about that, but, you guessed it, I get loads of messages from cheaters, ignoring my preferences and boundaries. Ditto for other preferences. I'm not here for "attention". Messages from incompatible people are not a plus, they are a drain on my time and energy. I would prefer no messages to an endless stream of messages from people who don't fit what I'm seeking, (because they don't care what I want, they just want to get their dicks wet). Seriously. Messages from incompatible people just wastes my time, and I don't have masses of free time to waste." Simple. Block everyone. And message the profiles that fit your criterias. | |||
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" A mutually satisfying meet doesn't start with: You are trash I am queen. " If one person treats you as trash, it could be them. If two people treat you like trash, it's still possible it's not you. If a lot of people are treating you like trash, you are the common denominator in that so maybe take a look at your own behaviour before blaming anyone else. You aren't exactly rolling yourself in glory in this thread. | |||
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" Yet you wasted time and 3 replies to me to lick the females boots to sound cute and feminine enough for a slither chance to lick a fat cunt" And there we have the likely reason for how people react to you. | |||
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" A mutually satisfying meet doesn't start with: You are trash I am queen. If one person treats you as trash, it could be them. If two people treat you like trash, it's still possible it's not you. If a lot of people are treating you like trash, you are the common denominator in that so maybe take a look at your own behaviour before blaming anyone else. You aren't exactly rolling yourself in glory in this thread." You're not following. We're talking about women who think they are entitled to men's face pictures before any exchange has happened. How is that my fault personally? | |||
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" Yet you wasted time and 3 replies to me to lick the females boots to sound cute and feminine enough for a slither chance to lick a fat cunt And there we have the likely reason for how people react to you. " I don't sugarcoat truths or lick boots to get what I want. I call a spade a spade. You either like me ir hate me. Up to you | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 17/02/24 03:22:34]" Haha, I am your subject then? Good luck with that. I wasn't speaking to you by the way. | |||
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" Yet you wasted time and 3 replies to me to lick the females boots to sound cute and feminine enough for a slither chance to lick a fat cunt And there we have the likely reason for how people react to you. I don't sugarcoat truths or lick boots to get what I want. I call a spade a spade. You either like me ir hate me. Up to you" Being perpetually angry, vitriolic and aggressive is not "not sugarcoating or licking boots". Enjoy continuing to reap what you sow, however, and getting more and more bitter because you don't get what you want. It's no skin off my nose at all. | |||
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" A mutually satisfying meet doesn't start with: You are trash I am queen. If one person treats you as trash, it could be them. If two people treat you like trash, it's still possible it's not you. If a lot of people are treating you like trash, you are the common denominator in that so maybe take a look at your own behaviour before blaming anyone else. You aren't exactly rolling yourself in glory in this thread. You're not following. We're talking about women who think they are entitled to men's face pictures before any exchange has happened. How is that my fault personally? " No it's just you that's talking about that. | |||
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" Yet you wasted time and 3 replies to me to lick the females boots to sound cute and feminine enough for a slither chance to lick a fat cunt And there we have the likely reason for how people react to you. I don't sugarcoat truths or lick boots to get what I want. I call a spade a spade. You either like me ir hate me. Up to you Being perpetually angry, vitriolic and aggressive is not "not sugarcoating or licking boots". Enjoy continuing to reap what you sow, however, and getting more and more bitter because you don't get what you want. It's no skin off my nose at all. " I am getting what I want. Speaking my mind. Now you can crucify me for it because it goes against your bias. Or try to be objective and reason with it. You're assuming I am desperate because that's what you assume about every man on fab. Prejudice. To be honest, I'd rather jerk off than lick boots for a piece of cunt. | |||
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" I am getting what I want. " Sure you are
" You're assuming I am desperate because that's what you assume about every man on fab. " Not at all. I know some very successful, entirely not desperate men on here. I still sometimes meet up with some I've known for years on here. Your perpetual rage and bitterness is what gives you away. My judgement of you is not based on any assumptions, it's purely a reflection of your behaviour. You can swear you're getting what you want and you're not desperate but your behaviour tells a very different story. Everyone can see through your bluster. You're fooling nobody. You could stop shooting yourself in both feet any time you wanted to but it's no loss to anyone else if you don't. | |||
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" Even the fat ugly women here behave as if they're Queen Sheba" Should fat, ugly women behave differently? | |||
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" I am getting what I want. Sure you are
You're assuming I am desperate because that's what you assume about every man on fab.
Not at all. I know some very successful, entirely not desperate men on here. I still sometimes meet up with some I've known for years on here.
Your perpetual rage and bitterness is what gives you away. My judgement of you is not based on any assumptions, it's purely a reflection of your behaviour.
You can swear you're getting what you want and you're not desperate but your behaviour tells a very different story. Everyone can see through your bluster. You're fooling nobody.
You could stop shooting yourself in both feet any time you wanted to but it's no loss to anyone else if you don't.
"I got at least 5 women, I can fuck today if I want to. My profile is a couple's profile. The moderator changed it to punish me for my views. So you got that desperation prejudice wrong. Just as assume every man is desperate and therefore you're entitled to their face pic before making contact You know you wom a debate when your opponent runs out of arguments, instead they try to attack your person and discredit you instead. | |||
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" Even the fat ugly women here behave as if they're Queen Sheba Should fat, ugly women behave differently?" It's up to them how they behave. Just stating facts | |||
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" I am getting what I want. Sure you are
You're assuming I am desperate because that's what you assume about every man on fab.
Not at all. I know some very successful, entirely not desperate men on here. I still sometimes meet up with some I've known for years on here.
Your perpetual rage and bitterness is what gives you away. My judgement of you is not based on any assumptions, it's purely a reflection of your behaviour.
You can swear you're getting what you want and you're not desperate but your behaviour tells a very different story. Everyone can see through your bluster. You're fooling nobody.
You could stop shooting yourself in both feet any time you wanted to but it's no loss to anyone else if you don't.
I got at least 5 women, I can fuck today if I want to. My profile is a couple's profile. The moderator changed it to punish me for my views. So you got that desperation prejudice wrong. Just as assume every man is desperate and therefore you're entitled to their face pic before making contact
You know you wom a debate when your opponent runs out of arguments, instead they try to attack your person and discredit you instead. "Fail. You have confused your person and your behaviour. Your behaviour deserves to be criticised. | |||
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"It’s a sex site n we are all here for the same thing, innit… " not really, there is much variety in how people percieve sex. Like when people say like minded people then do not list any interests on their profile. So a guy wants to do you up the arse but your not into it. | |||
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" Even the fat ugly women here behave as if they're Queen Sheba Should fat, ugly women behave differently? It's up to them how they behave. Just stating facts" These 'fat, ugly' cunts' as you keep referring to them have every right to behave like the Queen of Sheba...why shouldn't they have standards like everyone else. One man's gold, is another's rubbish. On the upside, your vitriolic comments towards larger ladies will ensure they won't waste time asking you for a face pic. Who wants to look at a cunt anyway, ugly things they are. Mrs | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " ^ The swingers support and advice nobody asked for | |||
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"Only now seeing this thread. Currently in a nice beach hut in Goa and off to order some toffee popcorn PS A pulse will do me
JOKE..!!!! "Lol I've just seen and read (most of) the thread and your comment made me laugh. Beach hut and toffee popcorn in Goa sounds ideal | |||
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"Only now seeing this thread. Currently in a nice beach hut in Goa and off to order some toffee popcorn PS A pulse will do me
JOKE..!!!!
Lol I've just seen and read (most of) the thread and your comment made me laugh. Beach hut and toffee popcorn in Goa sounds ideal "Goa and get your popcorn x | |||
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" Even the fat ugly women here behave as if they're Queen Sheba Should fat, ugly women behave differently? It's up to them how they behave. Just stating facts" Is that not true of everyone, regardless of their size and perceived attractiveness? I'm just perplexed by your suggestion that fat, ugly women have no right to behave that way | |||
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No need to keep going on about fat women with fat cunts I think you need to stop now tbh you've made your points | |||
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" Is that not true of everyone, regardless of their size and perceived attractiveness? I'm just perplexed by your suggestion that fat, ugly women have no right to behave that way " Wow, this is an interesting thread!!! I think we should all move away from using terms like fat and ugly. It just gives Mr Angry from Bathgate more fuel for his raging fire. And actually....Bathgate.....wasn't that mentioned in a Proclaimers song? 'Bathgate no more'? I wish he would go... but not send back a letter from America! | |||
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" ... I take your point but there are some on here who are way beyond having let themselves go You know the ones who in real life haven’t a chance of pulling However on here guys are often phishing for sexual contacts and that’s all The usual give away is just a picture of their eyes on a profile " The reason why they just have their eyes on the profile picture is so that you can recognise them through your letterbox when they turn up for the meet! | |||
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"The rudest and most vile messages I have ever received have come from the female half of couples. Took me by surprise at first, but I noticed a pattern after the 3rd or 4th... And might I add, these are couples that I had no intention of messaging, sending me totally unprovoked hate filled messages." ...is three days old now, but I couldn't help wondering whether the abusive comments you are getting from females of couples is because they have found out that their 'fab straight' OH has been checking you out! | |||
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"This behaviour happens in all areas. Single men, single women, single TV/ TS, all denomination of couples. Thing is, as the % of single men is that much higher, the chances are greater of it coming from a single man. Realistically, if you actually work out the averages, I've found that couples seem to be the worse for it. We have a block button, we have our own preferences. Stick to them, as nobody is owed anything. Except me that is. I am owed coffee and cake meet that I've been waiting months for. (You know who you are mister) "It does beg the question which half of the couple is sending the abuse? | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes " Amen to that x | |||
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"Especially when they are strangers! The entitlement is truly staggering sometimes Example of entitlement: SexyDalida94: Hey, you got face pic? 9"Dred: Yeah, do you? SexyDalida94: Yeah. You go 1st. Which one of the above feel entitled? Example 2: SexyDalida94: PROFILE DESCRIPTION: Guys, If you don't send a face pic on your 1st message, you get blocked. Your loss. There's no entitlement in HER REQUEST... IF YOU choose to message then you're agreeing to HER request of a face picture. She's not asked for it guaranteed anything other than her dimple basic terms... don't like it?? don't message!! that's not entitlement. Entitlement is you then sending the picture and expecting to fuck just because you sent it. Understood..but I'm sensing you still don't understand entitlement. She feels entitled every man who messages her must send a face pic. Or else. You can't get more entitled than that. " Or, she may get an unmanageable number of messages and face pics help her filter out the people she might find attractive from the people she doesn’t. | |||
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" A mutually satisfying meet doesn't start with: You are trash I am queen. If one person treats you as trash, it could be them. If two people treat you like trash, it's still possible it's not you. If a lot of people are treating you like trash, you are the common denominator in that so maybe take a look at your own behaviour before blaming anyone else. You aren't exactly rolling yourself in glory in this thread." That would require some self awareness and introspection, never going to happen. | |||
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"It's basic decency to treat people the way you want to be treated. Men have professions and social circles and a life outside fab too. If you want a man to take all the risk to fuck that up for a negligible chance that you might like his face amongst the 200000 faces you demand to have to choose from, don't expect men to treat you with kindness in return. The shear arrogance from most women and treating men like subhumans on fab is staggering " So asking to see someone's face is equivalent to being treated poorly? Really? Good grief
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"It's basic decency to treat people the way you want to be treated. Men have professions and social circles and a life outside fab too. If you want a man to take all the risk to fuck that up for a negligible chance that you might like his face amongst the 200000 faces you demand to have to choose from, don't expect men to treat you with kindness in return. The shear arrogance from most women and treating men like subhumans on fab is staggering So asking to see someone's face is equivalent to being treated poorly? Really? Good grief
I would have thought that "treat people as you want to be treated" is "show your face and treat other people's faces with the discretion you'd expect", not "see someone else's face and then know you won't be treated with kindness""It isn't anything to do with entitlement and we all know that. It is not difficult to avoid messaging someone whom has requirments we don't like (eg face pic). There is no rule saying we must message every person. The complaint really is that women are choosing whom to fuck and it isn't him. If I read a profile and think "wow, they think a lot of themselves, feels a bit much", I just leave it alone and off I go. See? No entitlement becasue I'm not doing anything with the profile requests. It is really not that difficult to do. Really easy actually. MrsAbz | |||
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"We recieved a very abusive message after we politely said no to a single guy. He basically said i deserve to be ra**d as i am a slag for being on a sex site. I reported him but doubt anything was done as the moderators are a bit slow on here. Mrs R" A message like that and you'd hope they would shut down the account and block the mobile number from accessing the site | |||
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