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Can you be sacked for being on a swinger site?
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By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
Depends on your contract I imagine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It would depend on what your job is and what your contract of employment was. In theory, possibly yes, if your being here was like to put you in breach of contract, by say, bringing your employer into disrepute.
As with all things I guess, discretion is the key . |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
The answer is far more complex than yes or no. There are way too many variables.
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By *hekMan
over a year ago
East London |
If using company laptop or phone, then they probably have rules against personal use, which they can enforce in situations like this.
If it’s using a private device you access then it depends if you were overseen and the content was described as explicit, then that too could be a issue with misconduct.
If you told people at the workplace or it became known, that you indulge in a swinger lifestyle, then unless you are a catholic priest (for which you may earn a promotion), it shouldn’t be a problem. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ? |
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By *hekMan
over a year ago
East London |
"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?
The answer is far more complex than yes or no. There are way too many variables.
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I agree with this, should have said same in the above |
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If they find you accessing the site at work or using work equipment then it would be treated as Gross Misconduct.
If you posted the name of your employer or images of you wearing company branded items then that could also be treated as Gross Misconduct if they argue you have brought the company into disrepute.
If you used a company office or vehicle for sexual activities then that would be gross misconduct.
If you simply have a profile here and nothing to identify your employer then probably not. You are entitled to a private life.
There might be some specific jobs that if it became public knowledge you were on here then you might be fired. |
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By * and BCouple
over a year ago
Durham |
"It would depend on what your job is and what your contract of employment was. In theory, possibly yes, if your being here was like to put you in breach of contract, by say, bringing your employer into disrepute.
As with all things I guess, discretion is the key ."
So if being on fab and bringing your employer into disrepute for people having sex with other people would that be the same for being on other apps where folk look for sex Tind** for example? |
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
This isn’t easy to answer, but here goes.
If you are using a corporate device and based in the U.K. then yes there is a high chance you will be violating their privacy and HR policies. However you would need to check.
If you are in a government role and or a private role that involves being vetted above DBS then as long as you are transparent and honest you will learn during the vetting process. If you fail to disclose and something happens there is a high chance of dismissal due to anti-bribery act.
This all said employers are more diverse now than ever before hence LGBTQI+ community |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ?"
It's not that specific, it's about bringing the company, or in some cases, the professional body in to disrepute.
At the moment we still have human rights legislation that gives us a legal right to a private life which gives everyone some security.
But if yiu are on a free and public swingers site arguably yiu have already made your private life public.
It's complex.
If soneone outed yiu. No you probably couldn't be sacked. If yiu went to a club, no you probably couldn't be sacked. Be easily identifiable on a swingers site or even worse make your profession known you're potentially on very thin ice |
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By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ?"
Because I need a house over my head. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ?"
What's ridiculous?
I signed a contract with a reputational disrepute clause once. Swinging wasn't specifically mentioned but examples given included d*unken behaviour at work/networking events, mis-use of social media (sharing of extreme views, inflammatory statements etc), and indiscreet communications such as third party heresay about individuals or rival companies that could be classed as libellous or unprofessional.
If your job is dealing with individuals and contracts worth millions to a business they want you to be seen as professional and respectful at all times, including when not at work.
Likewise teachers or anyone working with children would be in a tricky situation should angry parents start withdrawing their offspring from a school childcare business or playgroup because your lifestyle offended their personal beliefs.
Fair? Probably not. But it doesn't need to be specifically worded for it to become an issue with employers.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We have it that any company device used to access adult, dating, gambling or gaming sites can lead to dismissal "
I dubt there are any employers who don't |
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In answer to the specific question the Op asked in their opening post...
There isn't an employer in the land who would risk dismissing you simply for being a member of this site for fear of being taken to the cleaners in an employment tribunal.
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Had a few that ask you to not use nsfw sites.
Though normally the network filters such sites and the only way through is via a vpn
They would probably use a different bit of the contract, like the storage of inappropriate material on a work devise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know that, if you work for any of the security services (like MI5) your internet activity and contacts will be regularly monitored -- you'd be forced to sign away your privacy as part of your work contract.
Potentially it'll cause them concern -- but whether they'd consider it as a security risk, I'm not sure. |
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"I know that, if you work for any of the security services (like MI5) your internet activity and contacts will be regularly monitored -- you'd be forced to sign away your privacy as part of your work contract.
Potentially it'll cause them concern -- but whether they'd consider it as a security risk, I'm not sure."
Depends upon your clearance level.
As to the original question, too many factors to give a categorical answer, but probably. Or they’d find another excuse.
Bringing the company into disrepute, probably.
Using company equipment would be an open goal, and a really stupid thing to do. If you do this, they already know. |
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Depends on your contract.
Have known ppl being reprimanded for post on FB
A sex site seems to still be seen has seedy etc
But ppl openly being on & chatting about the meet site begining with T is perfectly acceptable (even though most use it for sex). |
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I think sacking you for being on a swingers site would be difficult. Having your life made so difficult so that you resign is another matter altogether.
I shudder when people announce their job on here and at posts asking 'are there any other teachers on the site?'. Imagine trying to maintain your authority with a class of 17 year olds who've all seen your fab profile.
Google teachers sacked for Only fans or teacher suspended for provocative selfie on Facebook. |
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party. "
Was he interviewing for Gregg's and it was a competitors sausage roll? |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party.
Was he interviewing for Gregg's and it was a competitors sausage roll?"
Thanks.
Coffee on the keyboard again..... 
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No matter what job you do browning fabs on their equipment is not a good idea. HR would probably take it very seriously.
In some jobs you must regularly declare some personal life activities or hobbies as part of the role. employers understand employees have personal live but don’t want any surprises in the future or for you to be at risk yourself. If you declare they they will assess but honestly is the best policy. |
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If you are concerned about the ramifications of using this site, then do not reference your employer, upload any statuses or content which explicitly shows your place of work, uniform, employers banding, logos or any of their equipment or assets which can be easily identified
The question is whether identifying you and indirectly or directly identifying your employer via this website will damage the employers reputation
It’s a grey area. Each employer, role, industry, contract, policy and/or individual will likely be different
There will likely be varying degrees of scenarios involved, which would need to be considered under their own merit
Play it safe and don’t draw reference to your employment in your bio text, content, statuses and keep a clear delineation between your private activities and work
Check your contract, staff handbook or any prescribed guidelines or policies.
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Didnt an Mp have to resign for accessing porn in Houses of Parliament recently? I think if your employer deems it an inappropriate site during work hours they could .. if its on work machine or youre on work wifi you probably find its in acceptable use policy vaguely defined … which gives them latitude …. |
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party.
Was he interviewing for Gregg's and it was a competitors sausage roll?
Thanks.
Coffee on the keyboard again.....
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"It would depend on what your job is and what your contract of employment was. In theory, possibly yes, if your being here was like to put you in breach of contract, by say, bringing your employer into disrepute.
As with all things I guess, discretion is the key .
So if being on fab and bringing your employer into disrepute for people having sex with other people would that be the same for being on other apps where folk look for sex Tind** for example?"
fairly sure yes, if it was seen to bring employer into disrepute, i.e. company name on clothing in pics etc |
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party. "
Was he surprised he didnt get the job? i am not!!! lol  |
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By *aimeDWoman
over a year ago
Shaftesbury, Dorset |
Absolutely you could, bringing the company into disrepute is a big deal and could easily been seen as grounds to terminate.
Of course the strength of any union that you may belong to could have an impact in n this as could your visibility within the company. Obviously a manager or direction would be more at risk of this than a shop floor worker for example but the short answer is that yes, it could |
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No firm laws. Would be dependent on policies.
Likely:
- fair use of IT
- social media
- personal conduct
- organisational reputation
Breaching those can lead to conduct review which could end in being fired. They wouldn't be able to fire you without a proper process and tbh there might be a case for unfair dismissal if your profile is locked down and you were only exposed by someone stalking and finding our your work place etc.
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"Was he surprised he didnt get the job? i am not!!! lol
Silly sod didn’t think they’d look at his social media as it was not a high level position. "
They probably thought even for a road sweepers job he would not be sober enough!!!  |
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Unfortunately yes, my governing body would class me posting naked photos as bringing the profession into disrepute, people have been sacked for similar (o-fans)
I personally don't see how when most photos are anonymous and my profession never comes into conversation so how I could bring it into disrepute I'm unsure but unfortunately they can dismiss you, same for social media usage etc.
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party. "
Dud they actually tell him that was the reason? |
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party. "
One of things my kids told at uni was before thinking of looking at jobs. google your self look at what sites you on or linked to etc be it Facebook or other think how things you said or pics your in make you look to a future employer. |
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As for using work computers etc be it to look at fab or even next clothing you could be given warning against company rules or wasteing work time etc.
Somethings just common sense don't put pics on here work uniform etc or why say what job you do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ?
What's ridiculous?
I signed a contract with a reputational disrepute clause once. Swinging wasn't specifically mentioned but examples given included d*unken behaviour at work/networking events, mis-use of social media (sharing of extreme views, inflammatory statements etc), and indiscreet communications such as third party heresay about individuals or rival companies that could be classed as libellous or unprofessional.
If your job is dealing with individuals and contracts worth millions to a business they want you to be seen as professional and respectful at all times, including when not at work.
Likewise teachers or anyone working with children would be in a tricky situation should angry parents start withdrawing their offspring from a school childcare business or playgroup because your lifestyle offended their personal beliefs.
Fair? Probably not. But it doesn't need to be specifically worded for it to become an issue with employers.
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What’s ridiculous to me might not be to you!
But funny how you mentioned swinging alongside d*unken behaviour, what a shame people see it as something disreputable,this no doubt leads to the majority of profiles hiding face pics which is understandable |
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By *ebootCouple
over a year ago
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"If they find you accessing the site at work or using work equipment then it would be treated as Gross Misconduct.
If you posted the name of your employer or images of you wearing company branded items then that could also be treated as Gross Misconduct if they argue you have brought the company into disrepute.
If you used a company office or vehicle for sexual activities then that would be gross misconduct.
If you simply have a profile here and nothing to identify your employer then probably not. You are entitled to a private life.
There might be some specific jobs that if it became public knowledge you were on here then you might be fired."
I believe are specific jobs where just being on here might get you fired - usually under a “brining the company, career or position under disrepute”.
Usually jobs in the public eye or where the key stakeholders might be the public, or where you hold a position of trust - teacher, social worker, care worker etc.
Also, using your uniform or your position as a uniformed service, (military, police, emergency service etc) for anything other than the duty you’re employed to do can get you fired. This is one. as ex forces myself, I particular endorse, and truly hate seeing people on here using theirs for swinging - I find it entirely disrespectful to the service - but that’s an entirely different debate  |
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"If Im standing on my bosses desk jizzing on her face while Terry from servicing is rubbing oily hands on her tits as he does her from behind… how great is it where I work??  "
Have they got any vacancies? When can I start , don’t care about the pay |
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Yes. If was on here saying Hi, I work for XYZ Then I could be sacked for bringing their name into disrepute, especially if my contract stated that I mustnt do anything to misrepresent the company. e.g. If I wore my ASDA delivery vest on here etc....
Otherwise no.
Separate your working life from your social life and all is okay.
BUT - if it was known in work that you are on here and it causes 'tittle tattle ' or atmosphere at work that negatively affects work then again ..... be prepared for employers to do something about it.
Someone just sacking you because they found out you use a certain website isn't on and the law could be on your side if your boss couldn't show how you'd contravened your contract.
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"It would depend on what your job is and what your contract of employment was. In theory, possibly yes, if your being here was like to put you in breach of contract, by say, bringing your employer into disrepute.
As with all things I guess, discretion is the key .
So if being on fab and bringing your employer into disrepute for people having sex with other people would that be the same for being on other apps where folk look for sex Tind** for example?"
FAB and Tinder and any adult site are okay to use BUT no one should mention where they work .....
The bosses do not concern themselves with who individuals have sex with but they do concern themselves with their names being used on such sites and are even more strict about their equipment being used to access sites. In fact ....... anything that can be traced back to the company is a no no . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We have it that any company device used to access adult, dating, gambling or gaming sites can lead to dismissal "
thats a fair one n cant argue with it ,your employed too work
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Look at the amount of online pieces about people being sacked, or memberdhip to clybs being revoked as they are in on**fans or some other such site.
All the people having pictures of them posing in the company uniform, might not go down so well with the company they work for.
So in theory, yes you could be sacked. |
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Thanks for all your comments. I understand the not using their equipment and in their time etc.
It was more on the disrepute side of things. Obviously err on the side of caution, seems to be the general take away. |
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"In answer to the specific question the Op asked in their opening post...
There isn't an employer in the land who would risk dismissing you simply for being a member of this site for fear of being taken to the cleaners in an employment tribunal.
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Don't agree. As long as they follow the correct procedure and are not discriminating they would face very little risk at an Employment Tribunal.
Also worth remembering that ET's are open to the public and media. A case involving a swinger might just make the news and result on the individual being "outed". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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yes, it is one of the protected classes in discrimination law.. sex or sexual orientation so this cannot be given as a reason for sacking you.. unless they wanted to give you a big payout as well from the courts. |
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Yes it does feature in many contracts of employment; including who you can and can’t have a relationship with. To be fair, these restrictions are typically in “service agreements” which most (not all) Directors sign, in effect, they make all entitlements under employment legislation virtually null and void unless it’s a protected characteristic.
Typical employee contracts talk about gross misconduct and typically bringing the company into disrepute covers a multitude of good practice behaviours as well as untold sins if your employers thinks you’ve acted unprofessionally.
Only way around such instances is to resign and cite constructive dismissal, it’s usually incumbent on an employer to prove this wasn’t the case at tribunal; if you get caught and wait to be fired then you’ve got to prove it was unfair dismissal which is nigh on impossible at tribunal if an employer has followed process.
Argue the narrative all you want on here but the above is stone cold facts, I do this shit for a living  |
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"yes, it is one of the protected classes in discrimination law.. sex or sexual orientation so this cannot be given as a reason for sacking you.. unless they wanted to give you a big payout as well from the courts."
You wouldn't be getting sacked for your sex or sexual orientation though...
I doubt you could find an employment case that shows that swinging is a protected characteristic particularly if the employer can argue you brought the company into disrepute or breached trust and confidence.
To assume protection for swinging under the Equality Act is niaive. |
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It would make a good test case..
The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because:
you are heterosexual, gay, lesbian or bisexual
someone thinks you have a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by perception)
you are connected to someone who has a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by association)
In the Equality Act, sexual orientation includes how you choose to express your sexual orientation, such as through your appearance or the places you visit. |
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"yes, it is one of the protected classes in discrimination law.. sex or sexual orientation so this cannot be given as a reason for sacking you.. unless they wanted to give you a big payout as well from the courts.
You wouldn't be getting sacked for your sex or sexual orientation though...
I doubt you could find an employment case that shows that swinging is a protected characteristic particularly if the employer can argue you brought the company into disrepute or breached trust and confidence.
To assume protection for swinging under the Equality Act is niaive. "
Above is absolutely correct, sexuality and gender are protected characteristics; if an employer dismissed you with any whiff of this then they wouldn’t even go to tribunal, any decent KC would tell them to settle; doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen because it does.
Swinging is a lifestyle choice no matter who you are, what you identify as or what sexuality you are; it’s about gross misconduct which opens the door to every sanction including summary dismissal - the sack !!
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"It would make a good test case..
The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because:
you are heterosexual, gay, lesbian or bisexual
someone thinks you have a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by perception)
you are connected to someone who has a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by association)
In the Equality Act, sexual orientation includes how you choose to express your sexual orientation, such as through your appearance or the places you visit."
You’re talking about sexual orientation not sexual choice or behaviours related to sex; these are totally different things and it’s dangerous to conflate them as the same.
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
Theres usually a clause in employment contracts about bringing the company into disrepute. So possibly in certain circumstances... But id imagine very unlikely.having said that im no lawyer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party.
Was he interviewing for Gregg's and it was a competitors sausage roll?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
I would of thought if the job one did would attract black-mail, if one was discovered swinging.
But In this day and age would it really matter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It would make a good test case..
The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because:
you are heterosexual, gay, lesbian or bisexual
someone thinks you have a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by perception)
you are connected to someone who has a particular sexual orientation (this is known as discrimination by association)
In the Equality Act, sexual orientation includes how you choose to express your sexual orientation, such as through your appearance or the places you visit."
Swinging isn't a sexual orientation. |
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By *ojo2joWoman
over a year ago
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"Why do people sign up to such ridiculous controlling contracts, who the hell do they think they are
Surely it would never ever feature in a contract though ?"
Many employers have terms in their contract that can terminate your job for bringing company into disrepute, misusing work equipment or offending colleagues. It would fiercely narrow your job opportunities if you avoided all employers who did so.
A good example is the number of people on here with pictures in identifiable work uniforms (construction, NHS, police). One screenshot and that could be your p45. |
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By *ojo2joWoman
over a year ago
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"It would depend on what your job is and what your contract of employment was. In theory, possibly yes, if your being here was like to put you in breach of contract, by say, bringing your employer into disrepute.
As with all things I guess, discretion is the key .
So if being on fab and bringing your employer into disrepute for people having sex with other people would that be the same for being on other apps where folk look for sex Tind** for example?"
Yes definitely if your pictures happened to identify your workplace or you were accessing from work equipment and messages were explicit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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One answer to the question might be; "Would you contest this in a court of Law"??
Another answer might be; "Is being a member of swingers site an illegal activity"?
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"One answer to the question might be; "Would you contest this in a court of Law"??
Another answer might be; "Is being a member of swingers site an illegal activity"?
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Probably as relevant
. "does it contravene your contract of employment?" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
How would they find you? Depending on the answer to this could be significant.
Photos in company clothing, uniforms, etc. could be deemed to be “bringing the company into disrepute” which covers a wide range of sins. You could be bragging about where you work, and this could get back to your employer.
Reputational damage is big news at the moment. Just ask the CBI. |
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over a year ago
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
If you were browsing Fab while you should be flying a plane...? |
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"If using company laptop or phone, then they probably have rules against personal use, which they can enforce in situations like this.
If it’s using a private device you access then it depends if you were overseen and the content was described as explicit, then that too could be a issue with misconduct.
If you told people at the workplace or it became known, that you indulge in a swinger lifestyle, then unless you are a catholic priest (for which you may earn a promotion), it shouldn’t be a problem. "
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party.
Was he interviewing for Gregg's and it was a competitors sausage roll?"
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"I’ve been pulled up for Fb before.
And my mate didn’t get hired because his public Fb had a photo of someone spark out d*unk with a sausage roll jammed up his arse at a party.
Having a sausage roll up your arsenal? It's a free country, whatever turns you on.
Having that photo on a public FB page - I wouldn't want to line manage someone who thought this was OK "
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As long as you don’t mention work on here, have anything identifying where you work, then they could, but you’d also likely win an unfair dismissal tribunal.
Check your contract with a fine tooth comb though
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A lot of contracts have wording that mentions "bringing the company into disrepute" or something along those lines. I don't know how easy that is to prove or enforce but I wouldn't like to test it! |
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I don't think just being active on here would get you sacked (given the caveats it's not accessed on work devices or in work time, or advertising the company in any way), however if your job requires you to have certain clearances then being on this site might affect that, and so prevent you from gaining what you need to be employed. So although you won't be sacked for being on a swingers site, you'll be sacked because you can't obtain the clearances needed, because you're on a swingers site.
(I was in a similar situation where my security clearance was almost revoked as I was in a position of financial instability - I was told to get my affairs in order or it would be revoked and bye bye job. Apparently put me in a vulnerable position and liable to be bribed by the enemy.) |
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
Personally no... I'm self employed |
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In theory yes.
In practice rarely.
Most contracts no longer contain a “morality” clause, and the few that do tend to be so wooly anyone can tear them apart. |
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"I know that, if you work for any of the security services (like MI5) your internet activity and contacts will be regularly monitored -- you'd be forced to sign away your privacy as part of your work contract.
Potentially it'll cause them
concern -- but whether they'd consider it as a security risk, I'm not sure."
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"Depends on your employers social media policy, but alsoif nothing involves your work place then no you cannot be sacked for it."
If you’re employed then whatever you do outside of work “involves your workplace”, it’s naive to think otherwise.
Any employer who thinks you’ve embarrassed the organisation is likely to reprimand you or even dismiss for gross misconduct; saying “it’s nothing to do with work” won’t save you if an employer thinks differently!
Might seem unfair/unreasonable and it arguably is, that said, once you’re fired then try and prove otherwise at tribunal.
My experience and counsel is to keep Fab entirely away from the workplace, remove any risk; as others have suggested, workplace clothing etc is a total ted flag! |
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The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that. |
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"The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that. "
If this is accurate. Am i the only one to see the irony of a police officer being canned for being on fab when the 100s of racist, misogynist etc others remain. Slightly off piste i know. |
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over a year ago
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"The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that.
If this is accurate. Am i the only one to see the irony of a police officer being canned for being on fab when the 100s of racist, misogynist etc others remain. Slightly off piste i know. "
He posted a photo in full uniform, number showing, alongside his car (jam sandwich not personal) and was asking women to meet him for 'outside fun' in his uniform.
Not sure if he got sacked for gross misconduct or just pure, unadulterated stupidity!
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"The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that.
If this is accurate. Am i the only one to see the irony of a police officer being canned for being on fab when the 100s of racist, misogynist etc others remain. Slightly off piste i know.
He posted a photo in full uniform, number showing, alongside his car (jam sandwich not personal) and was asking women to meet him for 'outside fun' in his uniform.
Not sure if he got sacked for gross misconduct or just pure, unadulterated stupidity!
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"The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that. "
Yes your memory is pretty much accurate. I too remembered reading about this in the local news and have found this article from the Yorkshire Evening Post.
This article most definitely answers the OP's question...
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Former West Yorkshire Police officer ‘ashamed’ after posting indecent photo on swingers’ website
A former West Yorkshire Police officer said he was “ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted” after he posted an indecent photo of himself on a swingers’ website.
By Georgina Morris
Published 19th Jul 2021
Former PC Andrew Bell uploaded one image to the Fab Swingers website of himself in uniform, with his warrant card, and another of him naked. On Monday, an independent panel at a police misconduct hearing in Wakefield found gross misconduct proven against PC Bell and said he would have been sacked if he had not already resigned. The panel found PC Bell to have breached professional standards of behaviour for authority, respect and courtesy, and discreditable conduct.
The hearing was told that the pictures on the swingers’ website were discovered after they were seen and reported in an anonymous message from a member of the public in June 2020. PC Bell, who did not attend the hearing, previously admitted that the Fab Swingers account was his and that both the photographs were of himself. Mike Percival, a solicitor for West Yorkshire Police, said: “He repeatedly said that he was ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted by his behaviour.”
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"The only incident I have come across of anyone actually being sacked for being on Fab was a police officer a few years ago who, naively, posted pics of himself in his uniform but also, I seem to recall crucially, his badge numbers. Again, if memory is correct this was a gross breach of police officer protocol. Whether he was indulging in Fab (or even just accessing the site) whilst on active duty I can't remember. But it certainly cost him his job.
Other than that I've not heard of anything.
I do know a university lecturer on here and they have to "vet" anyone they communicate with as they can't be a student of theirs. Any contact, albeit even innocent, they have to declare to their colleagues, which could get a tad awkward of course.
Like others have commented there are often rules on using company phones and laptops etc... but I have not, to date, ever heard of anyone actually being sacked for that.
Yes your memory is pretty much accurate. I too remembered reading about this in the local news and have found this article from the Yorkshire Evening Post.
This article most definitely answers the OP's question...
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Former West Yorkshire Police officer ‘ashamed’ after posting indecent photo on swingers’ website
A former West Yorkshire Police officer said he was “ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted” after he posted an indecent photo of himself on a swingers’ website.
By Georgina Morris
Published 19th Jul 2021
Former PC Andrew Bell uploaded one image to the Fab Swingers website of himself in uniform, with his warrant card, and another of him naked. On Monday, an independent panel at a police misconduct hearing in Wakefield found gross misconduct proven against PC Bell and said he would have been sacked if he had not already resigned. The panel found PC Bell to have breached professional standards of behaviour for authority, respect and courtesy, and discreditable conduct.
The hearing was told that the pictures on the swingers’ website were discovered after they were seen and reported in an anonymous message from a member of the public in June 2020. PC Bell, who did not attend the hearing, previously admitted that the Fab Swingers account was his and that both the photographs were of himself. Mike Percival, a solicitor for West Yorkshire Police, said: “He repeatedly said that he was ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted by his behaviour.”
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Well hopefully the shag he had was worth it. |
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By *heswingerMan
over a year ago
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No, as long as you do not do anything to disclose the company name or workplace, ie taking pics or meetin in company premises then no they cannot sack you as it’s your private life and not work connected |
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From another angle also depends on the strength of you Trade Union if you do get into hot water, especially if the grounds are a little tenuous. I know of many accounts of where my Trade Union and the legal firm that works on it's behalf have successfully defended others when the company has tried to get rid of them. It's times like these your Union membership pays for its self and makes employers think twice. |
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"From another angle also depends on the strength of you Trade Union if you do get into hot water, especially if the grounds are a little tenuous. I know of many accounts of where my Trade Union and the legal firm that works on its behalf have successfully defended others when the company has tried to get rid of them. It's times like these your Union membership pays for its self and makes employers think twice."
I had an instance where a troll emailed the company y I worked for telling them I was on here and also sent links to it all, got pulled in an questioned an said it’s fcuk all to do with the company what I do in my private life as long as I don’t use anything or take pics on company property, police got involved and the troll was in court for sending revenge porn, the company were ok an said just be careful in the future
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We had a guy who was sacked for downloading iTunes on his company laptop, we have a strict IT policy and it wasn’t his first warning.
We also had a guy sacked for a speeding ticket in a marked company car, again repeat offender.
Like said, anything is possible, depends on the situation. |
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
Probably just a warning if your are browsing with work phone or PC, or using company wireless. Otherwise, not their business. |
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"Would really like to know the actual legal position on this; not anecdotal or hearsay. If an employer found out you were on this site could they sack you?"
Not really, unless
1. You access Fab from work on a work device
2. Wear your uniform or show your work logo in Fab pics
3. You pursue someone on Fab who also works at the same place and you KNOW he/she works at your company (would be construed as harassment). This is, of course, only if he/she lodges a complaint with HR
4. If you use the workplace wifi to access Fab even if it's on your phone or own laptop. Most likely Fab will be blocked but not every company will
5. If someone "outs" you and you have naked pics with face showing you MAY have some problems
Out of all of these, only (3) is the one that poses a REAL risk of you getting fired. For the rest, HR will have a fair bit of work to do to show that you brought into disrepute. |
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Some nonsense spoken on here about this subject…
Under no circumstances can you b sacked for choosing a swinging lifestyle, in this country you are free to have consensual sex with anyone you choose ..
The only sensible thing people have written is about company equipment, premises or on company time .. or showing company livery .. |
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"Yes it does feature in many contracts of employment; including who you can and can’t have a relationship with. To be fair, these restrictions are typically in “service agreements” which most (not all) Directors sign, in effect, they make all entitlements under employment legislation virtually null and void unless it’s a protected characteristic.
Typical employee contracts talk about gross misconduct and typically bringing the company into disrepute covers a multitude of good practice behaviours as well as untold sins if your employers thinks you’ve acted unprofessionally.
Only way around such instances is to resign and cite constructive dismissal, it’s usually incumbent on an employer to prove this wasn’t the case at tribunal; if you get caught and wait to be fired then you’ve got to prove it was unfair dismissal which is nigh on impossible at tribunal if an employer has followed process.
Argue the narrative all you want on here but the above is stone cold facts, I do this shit for a living "
this is incorrect and following your advise is veey high risk and you clearly do t do "this shit" as you put it in the UK ,
firstly when you resign you put yourself out of work ,you cant claim benifits for 6 months , if you resign and go str8 into another job then there would be no compensation awarded as ETs deal in loss .. thats if you win .. with constructive dissmisal cases the onus is on the claimant to demonstrate that the issuse over which they resigned went to the heart of the contract of employment ... resigning to avoid potencial disciplary action would not be sufficent to bring a case for constructive dismissal . The company does not not have to prove or demonstrate anything .. the first line of the ET3 (responce) would simply state .. the claimant resigned of their own free will .. secondly .. you will in almost all cases be expected to raise a greivance first to reslove any matter in dispute .. if not a tribunal can reject any application .. thirdly when someone is dismissed them employer has to demonstrate that the dismissal was resonable in all circumstances .. your post is irresponsable and inaccurate when talking about UK ET applications and NO ONE should follow this advise |
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A colleague of mine was sacked for accessing Fabs on his own phone but via the company wi-fi. It was retrospectively discussed in a management meeting post his departure when a female employee did the same thing at a later date. |
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