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 with the help of zombie armies who have reposted the BS they received via newsletters/site postings,etc sowing fear and doubts.
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"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" You're going to have to explain to me how that's relevant as I don't watch Loose Women | |||
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"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" Why the hell would you watch Loose Women? I'd rather lick cat shit off the sole of my shoe than subject myself to that. | |||
"My sister works in a hospital pharmacy and says there's plenty of Victorian lovelies like TB coming back. A combination of vaccine misinformation and no health screening for new arrivals on our shores." Didn't they stop routinely vaccinating against TB? 🤔 | |||
"My sister works in a hospital pharmacy and says there's plenty of Victorian lovelies like TB coming back. A combination of vaccine misinformation and no health screening for new arrivals on our shores. Didn't they stop routinely vaccinating against TB? 🤔" Only for 🦡 | |||
"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" This is the equivalent of a thread on Facebook asking about convenient parking and someone then making it about race. 
I really think the anti-vaxxers should all get in the bin. It's not just themselves they're harming but others, too. | |||
"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" This thread isn't about this    | |||
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"Ignorance and stupidity in equal measure. I have a cousin without is anti tax and refuses to have his kids vaccinated. And thinks the world is flat aVotes Reform and thinks Trump is great and Farage is a hero. Cant reason with stupid" Yeah I agree you can’t reason with stupid but unfortunately stupid means peoples children getting ill and infecting other | |||
"Ignorance and stupidity in equal measure. I have a cousin without is anti tax and refuses to have his kids vaccinated. And thinks the world is flat aVotes Reform and thinks Trump is great and Farage is a hero. Cant reason with stupid" It's almost as if people who think that way think they're socking it to the man, taking back some control of their own lives, whereas in reality, they aren't. | |||
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"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" This post beggars belief | |||
"My sister works in a hospital pharmacy and says there's plenty of Victorian lovelies like TB coming back. A combination of vaccine misinformation and no health screening for new arrivals on our shores." To be fair most of the people coming over to the uk are taking up the vaccinations for their children it’s usually them the adults that don’t get vaccinated as they think it’s a waste of resources for them and would rather make sure their children are ok, my friend works for the immunisations team for NHS greater Glasgow and Clyde and says the uptake of foreigners taking the vaccines is a lot more than those that are generational Scottish ! Maybe because they have seen first hand the devastation not being vaccinated has done where they’ve come from | |||
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"My sister works in a hospital pharmacy and says there's plenty of Victorian lovelies like TB coming back. A combination of vaccine misinformation and no health screening for new arrivals on our shores." Was wondering when someone would mention this. It isn't purely down to anti vaxes. Ppl coming from 3rd world and other poorer nations haven't always been lucky enough to receive vaccines. | |||
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"Did anyone look into the Andrew Wakefield study, that MMR jab causes autism. He study was proven to be incorrect, as he chose the subjects to study. So his findings are seriously flawed. He was investigated, it was found he only concentrated on the 12 subjects that had health issues." Do you happen to know who proved him wrong? I’d like to see who funded this investigation. | |||
"What about the autism break out nobody talks about? Or the ginormous increase in auto immune diseases? We really need to establish what’s causing all these things…." Well having been jabbing for a year on the old fat jabs and my gut health is dramatically improving and my inability to eat any processed food or drinks without getting the heave, not to mention the food being held in my gut for longer meaning the fact I like everyone else who doesn’t chew their food properly it’s actually getting digested I’d say like so many people have claimed for years that a lot of immune issues are defo related to food | |||
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"Did anyone look into the Andrew Wakefield study, that MMR jab causes autism. He study was proven to be incorrect, as he chose the subjects to study. So his findings are seriously flawed. He was investigated, it was found he only concentrated on the 12 subjects that had health issues. Do you happen to know who proved him wrong? I’d like to see who funded this investigation. " Go look for yourself, it is all out there on the world wide web | |||
"Bring back the school nurse for 1. But this outbreak might change some minds as the scales have been tiped in favor of vacancies. When you get to a point of 0 casses what is the point of a vacancie but with infection up more are like to rethink there stand point. " unfortunately what is being told to those unsure by the anti vaccine misinformation is that its the vaccine spreading it and only those vaccinated are getting ill... madness I know. But thats what they are peddling | |||
"Did anyone look into the Andrew Wakefield study, that MMR jab causes autism. He study was proven to be incorrect, as he chose the subjects to study. So his findings are seriously flawed. He was investigated, it was found he only concentrated on the 12 subjects that had health issues. Do you happen to know who proved him wrong? I’d like to see who funded this investigation. " Thankfully, he made it simple, as his so-called 'research' was fraud and his made-up details were removed from the publication that issued them. As he'd stoked fears, governments ran much larger studies than he'd falsified, which revealed that there was of course no such link. He was struck off as a Doctor and found guilty of serious professional misconduct and struck off the medical register by the General Medical Council (taken from the BMJ). He's now a $millionaire in the USA and peddles antivax fear. If you search for him and about the fraud, you'll find lots more details. | |||
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"Did anyone look into the Andrew Wakefield study, that MMR jab causes autism. He study was proven to be incorrect, as he chose the subjects to study. So his findings are seriously flawed. He was investigated, it was found he only concentrated on the 12 subjects that had health issues. Do you happen to know who proved him wrong? I’d like to see who funded this investigation. Thankfully, he made it simple, as his so-called 'research' was fraud and his made-up details were removed from the publication that issued them. As he'd stoked fears, governments ran much larger studies than he'd falsified, which revealed that there was of course no such link. He was struck off as a Doctor and found guilty of serious professional misconduct and struck off the medical register by the General Medical Council (taken from the BMJ). He's now a $millionaire in the USA and peddles antivax fear. If you search for him and about the fraud, you'll find lots more details. " Thank heavens for the government, we can definitely trust them. | |||
"Did anyone look into the Andrew Wakefield study, that MMR jab causes autism. He study was proven to be incorrect, as he chose the subjects to study. So his findings are seriously flawed. He was investigated, it was found he only concentrated on the 12 subjects that had health issues. Do you happen to know who proved him wrong? I’d like to see who funded this investigation. Thankfully, he made it simple, as his so-called 'research' was fraud and his made-up details were removed from the publication that issued them. As he'd stoked fears, governments ran much larger studies than he'd falsified, which revealed that there was of course no such link. He was struck off as a Doctor and found guilty of serious professional misconduct and struck off the medical register by the General Medical Council (taken from the BMJ). He's now a $millionaire in the USA and peddles antivax fear. If you search for him and about the fraud, you'll find lots more details. Thank heavens for the government, we can definitely trust them." It’s not simply the government. Scientists from around the world took time to check the association between vaccines and autism and all came to the conclusion that there is no association. wakefield ‘s study was the only one talking about this link. Then, years after this claim had been scientifically debunked, an investigation by a private journalist showed that wakefield falsified data and profited from fake conclusions of his study. Only at that point he was struck off the register - good riddance. Your “thanks heavens for the government, we can trust them” is a childish attempt to avoid reality. wakefield is, and will always be remembered as, a grifter, a fraud, a con artist who took advantage of children and their parents. | |||
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"My daughter is now of an age where she can make her own choice of what chemical is pumped in to her body. Her body, her choice." babies need us as parents to make that choice for them. I also make the decision for my disabled daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccines.. I encouraged my kids to get the grandkids vaccinated. Thankfully they all did | |||
"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" what the hell sort of bile comment is that !!!! | |||
"Furthermore. It's probably worth looking at the numbers before staring to get excited. Whilst any preventable disease is not good. This has the feeling of the covid over excitement about it. Take a look at gov.uk confirmed cases. " The number of laboratory-confirmed measles cases by month of symptom onset in 2025 were: January: 88 February: 68 March: 68 April: 109 May: 131 June: 127 July: 119 August: 50 September: 29 October: 42 November: 69 December: 59" "In 2025, one acute measles-related death occurred in a child who was known to have other medical conditions. Information on historical measles-related deaths is available on the notifications and deaths webpage." " I'm pretty sure it's now 2026 I'm also confident that laboratory testing for measles would be a very rare occurrence so whilst there's probably no need to panic there's also no point trying to brush it under the carpet. | |||
"Furthermore. It's probably worth looking at the numbers before staring to get excited. Whilst any preventable disease is not good. This has the feeling of the covid over excitement about it. Take a look at gov.uk confirmed cases. " The number of laboratory-confirmed measles cases by month of symptom onset in 2025 were: January: 88 February: 68 March: 68 April: 109 May: 131 June: 127 July: 119 August: 50 September: 29 October: 42 November: 69 December: 59" "In 2025, one acute measles-related death occurred in a child who was known to have other medical conditions. Information on historical measles-related deaths is available on the notifications and deaths webpage." I'm pretty sure it's now 2026 I'm also confident that laboratory testing for measles would be a very rare occurrence so whilst there's probably no need to panic there's also no point trying to brush it under the carpet." Nobody has said brush it under the carpet. If we have learned nothing else from the covid experience is it not to be sure of our facts before people starting the hyperbole.? Dec 25 is the latest figures available so if you have some for last month (Jan) please share. As for lab testing. I have no clue if lab testing is rare or not rare, but it's a fair point to make. Equally fair is the lack of any evidence for the reasons why people are not vaccinated. It's far too easy and lazy to just assume it's some you tubers that some people dislike. It's surely not just the static indigenous population with the huge numbers of people in and our of the country how sure are we of their vaccine status... That's 40 million visits from overseas each year to provide some context. | |||
"My daughter is now of an age where she can make her own choice of what chemical is pumped in to her body. Her body, her choice." Fuck that. She’s also making a choice for people who might not be able to have vaccines, people with immunity issues, kids that are too young to have been vaccinated yet. Also, with what information is she making that choice? Is she a scientist or doctor? This is the selfish attitude that’s absolutely screwed the country. As for the idiots trying to make it about immigration… jesus christ some people are stupid. | |||
"My daughter is now of an age where she can make her own choice of what chemical is pumped in to her body. Her body, her choice. Fuck that. She’s also making a choice for people who might not be able to have vaccines, people with immunity issues, kids that are too young to have been vaccinated yet. Also, with what information is she making that choice? Is she a scientist or doctor? This is the selfish attitude that’s absolutely screwed the country. As for the idiots trying to make it about immigration… jesus christ some people are stupid. " Well said. It was only a matter of time before the idiots showed up on this thread, unfortunately. And as for parents 'not having time' to get their kids vaccinated, words fail me. | |||
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"I think I saw someone say about banning kids from school if they haven’t been vaccinated. I have seen that rule in use in the US. It seems to work well. " I’d say that’s a good idea in principle but unfortunately it’s the children that will miss out on education through no fault of their own, given their parents are stupid enough to not vaccinate their children I wouldn’t think they have the smarts to be able to successfully home school them. | |||
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"Copied from .gov “ Since 1 January 2026, there have been 130 laboratory confirmed measles cases reported in England. 68% (88 of 130) of these cases have been in London and 22% (28 of 130) in the West Midlands. In 2025, there were 959 laboratory confirmed measles cases in England. In 2024, this was 2,911, the highest number of cases recorded annually since 2012.”" Interesting that the numbers went down from 2024 to 2025...maybe people didn't watch YouTube so much last year? Or the antivaxxers who are being blamed as the only reason for the outbreak weren't influencing last year? Or perhaps it's a complex situation with many factors affecting the spread of the disease. It's interesting poking around in the official stats... For q3 last year.. 13% of cases were import related whatever that means. There were 1600 suspected cases reported and of them.. 600 ish were lab tested | |||
"This is a virus that was almost eradicated, thanks to the antivaxers and their campaign of misinformation and fake news. Gullible people who believed the YouTube mumbo jumbo and subsequently refused to get children vaccinated we are now seeing the result massive outbreaks of measles and the serious consequences it can cause. Thank God small pox isn't still going!! " Just had my second SmallPox vacination, can't be too careful. | |||
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"My daughter is now of an age where she can make her own choice of what chemical is pumped in to her body. Her body, her choice." So you wouldn’t operate on your child if she needed a transplant etc until your child is old enough to make those informed decisions ? After all during surgery loads of chemicals are pumped through the body as well as the chance of infection and possibly a transfusion ? | |||
"It's sad that measles is so highly infectious, with about 90% of people who are exposed to it, becoming infected. Each 1 of them can infect 18 more, depending on who they come into contact with. If there aren't people without immunity, nobody else gets infected. When it doesn't find another, that outbreak dies out. Because we have a sizeable number now of unvaccinated people, this gives a ready pool of potential victims that the virus could cause disability to, or to kill. Vaccines for measles are estimated to have saved c. 60 million lives, just since 2020. That anyone would happily choose to expose their children to potential death or disabilities, when safe vaccines are here, is beyond my thinking power. " All of that may be true. But truth of the matter is one person died with measles and other complications in 2025 in the UK. So it needs some perspective among all the invective and click bait and swearing. I'm not in any way an anti vax person but I do think we seem to love a good opportunity to swear at and insult others on here. How many died from disease from passive smoking or in road accidents? It's not top trumps if avoidable deaths but just trying to put some perspective upon the selective social contract which seems to be debated with not very much intelligence in many cases. Nothing seems to switch critical thinking off quite as much as a thread about vaccinations. | |||
"My daughter is now of an age where she can make her own choice of what chemical is pumped in to her body. Her body, her choice. So you wouldn’t operate on your child if she needed a transplant etc until your child is old enough to make those informed decisions ? After all during surgery loads of chemicals are pumped through the body as well as the chance of infection and possibly a transfusion ? " That's not what was said. What was said was her daughter is now of age and can now make her own choices. | |||
"I’m loving how a problem caused by anti vaxxers spreading lies and fears is now being put down to immigration by the usual suspects that eventually always pop up on those threads. Popcorn ready 🍿 " You can probably put that popcorn away, as there's plenty of evidence that scepticism or opposition to vaccinations is far higher in some migrant communities than in the population as a whole, and the most serious outbreaks have been in areas of high immigration such as the current one in Enfield. The reasons for not having vaccinations are generally rooted in cultural and religious beliefs rather than anti vax conspiracies. | |||
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"As a child of the 60's everyone of us got measles, mumps and rubella, like convid unless you had a existing illness was a week in bed, some got herein damage but sure better than autism. And the guildline for MMR has been changed from no evidence it causes autism, to no evidence it doesn't. As when forced to reveal what evidence they had, turns out none. No evidence can simply mean, haven't looked." The hell are you talking about? The evidence available (and there’s been countless studies on the subject) excluded any link between vaccines and autism. The ones who still spout this nonsense are grifters giving red meat to their followers, and the gullible followers who believe this shit instead of believing in what the vast majority of scientists and doctors recommend. Being so ignorant in 2026 is a choice. | |||
"I’m loving how a problem caused by anti vaxxers spreading lies and fears is now being put down to immigration by the usual suspects that eventually always pop up on those threads. Popcorn ready 🍿 You can probably put that popcorn away, as there's plenty of evidence that scepticism or opposition to vaccinations is far higher in some migrant communities than in the population as a whole, and the most serious outbreaks have been in areas of high immigration such as the current one in Enfield. The reasons for not having vaccinations are generally rooted in cultural and religious beliefs rather than anti vax conspiracies." Oh oh oh, looks like I need more popcorn! In a not at all unexpected crossover between antivaccinism and far right propaganda, instead of saying “I did my own research” now the anti vaxxers claim it’s because of the immigrants 
You guys are the ignorant gift that keeps on giving
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"It's sad that measles is so highly infectious, with about 90% of people who are exposed to it, becoming infected. Each 1 of them can infect 18 more, depending on who they come into contact with. If there aren't people without immunity, nobody else gets infected. When it doesn't find another, that outbreak dies out. Because we have a sizeable number now of unvaccinated people, this gives a ready pool of potential victims that the virus could cause disability to, or to kill. Vaccines for measles are estimated to have saved c. 60 million lives, just since 2020. That anyone would happily choose to expose their children to potential death or disabilities, when safe vaccines are here, is beyond my thinking power. All of that may be true. But truth of the matter is one person died with measles and other complications in 2025 in the UK. So it needs some perspective among all the invective and click bait and swearing. I'm not in any way an anti vax person but I do think we seem to love a good opportunity to swear at and insult others on here. How many died from disease from passive smoking or in road accidents? It's not top trumps if avoidable deaths but just trying to put some perspective upon the selective social contract which seems to be debated with not very much intelligence in many cases. Nothing seems to switch critical thinking off quite as much as a thread about vaccinations. " Aaaah, I was waiting for the “I’m not an antivaxxer but…” moment 
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"As a child of the 60's everyone of us got measles, mumps and rubella, like convid unless you had a existing illness was a week in bed, some got herein damage but sure better than autism. And the guildline for MMR has been changed from no evidence it causes autism, to no evidence it doesn't. As when forced to reveal what evidence they had, turns out none. No evidence can simply mean, haven't looked." I didn't get measles or mumps as a child, or indeed as an adult but there again I was vaccinated so maybe that helped. | |||
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"I’m loving how a problem caused by anti vaxxers spreading lies and fears is now being put down to immigration by the usual suspects that eventually always pop up on those threads. Popcorn ready 🍿 You can probably put that popcorn away, as there's plenty of evidence that scepticism or opposition to vaccinations is far higher in some migrant communities than in the population as a whole, and the most serious outbreaks have been in areas of high immigration such as the current one in Enfield. The reasons for not having vaccinations are generally rooted in cultural and religious beliefs rather than anti vax conspiracies. Oh oh oh, looks like I need more popcorn! In a not at all unexpected crossover between antivaccinism and far right propaganda, instead of saying “I did my own research” now the anti vaxxers claim it’s because of the immigrants
You guys are the ignorant gift that keeps on giving
🍿 "Rather than be offensive perhaps put up some facts about who has not had the vaccine and who has, why they have not had it and if that was a decision they made and why and what have been the consequences. It's not a legitimate or intelligent or informed argument to spout click bait about political leanings, which, with irony that you possibly can't see, is simply unevidenced you tube facts but just from a different direction. | |||
"I’m loving how a problem caused by anti vaxxers spreading lies and fears is now being put down to immigration by the usual suspects that eventually always pop up on those threads. Popcorn ready 🍿 You can probably put that popcorn away, as there's plenty of evidence that scepticism or opposition to vaccinations is far higher in some migrant communities than in the population as a whole, and the most serious outbreaks have been in areas of high immigration such as the current one in Enfield. The reasons for not having vaccinations are generally rooted in cultural and religious beliefs rather than anti vax conspiracies. Oh oh oh, looks like I need more popcorn! In a not at all unexpected crossover between antivaccinism and far right propaganda, instead of saying “I did my own research” now the anti vaxxers claim it’s because of the immigrants
You guys are the ignorant gift that keeps on giving
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Rather than be offensive perhaps put up some facts about who has not had the vaccine and who has, why they have not had it and if that was a decision they made and why and what have been the consequences. It's not a legitimate or intelligent or informed argument to spout click bait about political leanings, which, with irony that you possibly can't see, is simply unevidenced you tube facts but just from a different direction. "Thank you. There is an official NHS report from 2021 recording vaccine scepticism by background. It is a little broad in its definitions but its findings were: 'Unlikely/very unlikely to be vaccinated: Black or black British: 71.8% Pakistani or Bangladeshi:42.3% White British or Irish: 15.6% There are a lot of official sources online addressing the problem of low vaccination rates in minority communities, although the other poster presumably thinks these are all 'far right'.🤭 | |||
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"As a child of the 60's everyone of us got measles, mumps and rubella, like convid unless you had a existing illness was a week in bed, some got herein damage but sure better than autism. And the guildline for MMR has been changed from no evidence it causes autism, to no evidence it doesn't. As when forced to reveal what evidence they had, turns out none. No evidence can simply mean, haven't looked." The "no evidence it doesn't" phrasing is a common rhetorical tactic used by skeptics, but it misrepresents how science works. You cannot "prove a negative" (that something never happens), but you can prove a lack of association. Extensive studies involving millions of children across multiple countries have shown that the rate of autism is the same in vaccinated children as it is in unvaccinated children. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous." You seem to be a Pseudoscience Proponent | |||
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"All the statistics and figures that everyone including people on here come up with, absolutely mean nothing if you don’t believe in science, there’s people who don’t believe in this global warming but the physical facts are there, iceberg melting, storms stronger than ever before, even if you don’t listen to scientist, that proof is already visible" Global warming is definitely caused by antivaxxers.. Selfish bastards | |||
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"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous."
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children | |||
"All the statistics and figures that everyone including people on here come up with, absolutely mean nothing if you don’t believe in science, there’s people who don’t believe in this global warming but the physical facts are there, iceberg melting, storms stronger than ever before, even if you don’t listen to scientist, that proof is already visible Global warming is definitely caused by antivaxxers.. Selfish bastards" My point is, the idiots that don’t believe in what’s in front of their face, listening to these anti-VAXes and likewise | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children "Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit. "I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
"People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing… Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me. | |||
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"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me."Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety? | |||
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"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit. "Why not remove yourself from US based influencers? You are just spouting rubbish which doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny especially when it's in the NHS's interests to keep costs down. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit. "No RFK and his dodgy mate Aaron Siri, who have the same amount of science qualifications as my wheelie bin ultimate want to remove the legal protection pharma companies have so they can tie them up in hugely expensive legal cases. They have no interest in public health. Vaccines are the cheapest and most effective ways or preventing many viruses such as measles and polio that we don't have any surefire treatments for. | |||
"The vaccinated will be protected, the unvaccinated not… that’s the ‘risk’ they take. It’s not a blame game. Maybe they think there are other risks to the vaccine that outweigh the risk from measles. Personal choice is a marvellous thing. " It's not marvellous for public health as a whole. In fact it's pretty disastrous. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
Why not remove yourself from US based influencers?
You are just spouting rubbish which doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny especially when it's in the NHS's interests to keep costs down."Spouting rubbish? Now I’m really confused. What has big pharmaceutical companies cutting corners to make a profit got to do with the NHS keeping costs down? | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety? "Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine. "Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children? | |||
"All the statistics and figures that everyone including people on here come up with, absolutely mean nothing if you don’t believe in science, there’s people who don’t believe in this global warming but the physical facts are there, iceberg melting, storms stronger than ever before, even if you don’t listen to scientist, that proof is already visible Global warming is definitely caused by antivaxxers.. Selfish bastards My point is, the idiots that don’t believe in what’s in front of their face, listening to these anti-VAXes and likewise" I think insulting people for being sceptical about messages being delivered by people and media that are "credible" is not helpful at all. The unchecked influence of media in the name of free speech and the suspicion of large corporations and governments is a huge problem. If we are serious about addressing the issue of having an audience that is intelligent enough to understand truth from lie. To make informed decisions based upon risk analysis. Deplatforming malign actors and most importantly sueing them for spreading untruths. But that requires censorship. Time effort and money.... And the conclusion we all seem to come to is... Ahhhh fuck it... That's hard work, and would stop my access to free porn..and besides I like watching videos of kittens licking dobermans balls. I'll just believe everything I think is right and if anyone disagrees with me they are an idiot so I will insult them. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine. "Could you pleAse share details and sources of your risk assesment ? | |||
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"If you watch the movie "Idiocracy" you can see why previously eradicated diseases are back 😂🤣" Which diseases have been eradicated globally? | |||
"If you watch the movie "Idiocracy" you can see why previously eradicated diseases are back 😂🤣 Which diseases have been eradicated globally? " Smallpox, and polio was close | |||
"If you watch the movie "Idiocracy" you can see why previously eradicated diseases are back 😂🤣 Which diseases have been eradicated globally? Smallpox, and polio was close " OK... So genuine questions as Im interested in facts and not hyperbole that is spread. So is it true that smallbox was eradicated and remains eradicated but people continue to have vaccines for it? So zero cases in the UK recently is that true? Polio was nearly eradicated? How many cases of polio were there in the UK in the last few years? | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?"I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella. "Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today. I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this. "I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence "Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices. Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this? There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence "And the absence of evidence proves what? | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this."As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works. The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding. Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents. | |||
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"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact." In my opinion no. Sports injuries, smoking related diseases, diet related problems, injuries caused when d*unk are all treated and could be assumed to be caused by poor choices *to be clear 'I' am not saying they are*. Therefore I think unvaccinated people deserve treatment too. | |||
"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact. In my opinion no. Sports injuries, smoking related diseases, diet related problems, injuries caused when d*unk are all treated and could be assumed to be caused by poor choices *to be clear 'I' am not saying they are*. Therefore I think unvaccinated people deserve treatment too. " Oh absolutely agree, where do you stop with self inflicted stuff. It's just a talking point not gospel opinion. | |||
"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact. In my opinion no. Sports injuries, smoking related diseases, diet related problems, injuries caused when d*unk are all treated and could be assumed to be caused by poor choices *to be clear 'I' am not saying they are*. Therefore I think unvaccinated people deserve treatment too. Oh absolutely agree, where do you stop with self inflicted stuff. It's just a talking point not gospel opinion. " Yes you said you were playing devil's advocate. I was trying to continue the discussion but I fear it was a fools errand  | |||
"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact." I think the NHS principle of free at the point of delivery,is sound for all people. It's wiser to focus attention on what's potentially more harmful instead, such as reasons people are not getting vaccinated. | |||
"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact." Sure why not. Apply the same principle to people who choose to get pregnant, have motoring accidents, cycling accidents, walking and running accidents, are overweight or underweight, smoke, drink, play sport, oh why not add stis to the list of self inflicted illnesses. At least the nhs would stop whining a out being underfunded. | |||
"OK controversial opinion here, playing devil's advocate. If someone who chooses not to vaccinate against a virus then becomes unwell and requires expensive treatment should the NHS/ government then have the right to demand that person pays for their treatment and the treatment of children they refused to let have a vaccine?? I'm just throwing it out as discussion point not actually fact. Sure why not. Apply the same principle to people who choose to get pregnant, have motoring accidents, cycling accidents, walking and running accidents, are overweight or underweight, smoke, drink, play sport, oh why not add stis to the list of self inflicted illnesses. At least the nhs would stop whining a out being underfunded. " Overweight people who have health problems that stem from their refusal to loose weight should be charged for their NHS treatment. Same for asthmatics and suffers of COPD that continue to smoke. | |||
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"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents. "Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that? Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit. Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. | |||
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"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" | |||
"Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" How to show you are a racist | |||
"I hate racism No mention of the ‘white girls’ Pathetic Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" Just posted the same thing | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents.
Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that?
Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit.
Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. ". It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above. Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. You've studied the evidence? | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents.
Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that?
Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit.
Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. .
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. You've studied the evidence?"Are you suggesting that because lots of people have had it and most are fine then it’s safe? It’s a pretty crude way to look at it and contradicts your early point that millions has been spent to prove they are safe. If that’s the case, you could say there has been a rise in autism and auto immune diseases since the vaccines were introduced. Surely randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials would prove it either way. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents.
Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that?
Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit.
Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. .
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. You've studied the evidence?
Are you suggesting that because lots of people have had it and most are fine then it’s safe? It’s a pretty crude way to look at it and contradicts your early point that millions has been spent to prove they are safe.
If that’s the case, you could say there has been a rise in autism and auto immune diseases since the vaccines were introduced.
Surely randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials would prove it either way."No. It's not based on anecdotal hearsay type observation. It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above. Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc.It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above. Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. | |||
"Is it the propaganda stopping people immunising or that other non British cultures are not in favour of then, due to religions?" Sadly it doesn't seem any research has been done here. Or at least any that has been shared. The media seem happy to point fingers at the boogie man as the one solitary single reason why all people on our shores are not vaccinated. (which is obviously total bollocks but we can see it being repeated in these threads). A modicum of reasoned intelligent thinking might lead to the conclusion that there might be many and varied reasons why people on our shores are not vaccinated. | |||
"I hate racism No mention of the ‘white girls’ Pathetic Maybe the black girls on Loose women ought to encourage vaccination instead of crying how poorly black people are treated" I'm not sure it's racist to state facts. Look at the office for national statistics numbers to see the percentage of black carribean unvaccinated compared to white eastern European and white British and Indian demographics. Is it racist to state one group is higher than any other? I hope it is not. It's probably more dangerous to ignore the facts as convenient as it may be for harmony. | |||
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"Really annoys me. I’m vaccinated but still managed to get mumps. Apparently I must have come in contact (probably public transport) with someone unvaccinated. Worst week of my life - hated every minute of having it." Measles is one of the most infectious diseases going, with any person infected likely to infect a very large volume of people, as it transmits so easily. The vaccines are very effective at producing sterilizing immunity, when all doses are received properly. There's still a chance that people can very occasionally fail to get immunity. Having measles can also damage our immune systems, destroying immunity from other diseases
As it's so infectious, it can rip through groups of people who have not been vaccinated . Dying out when it can't find any one else who's possible to get infected | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents.
Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that?
Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit.
Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. .
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. You've studied the evidence?
Are you suggesting that because lots of people have had it and most are fine then it’s safe? It’s a pretty crude way to look at it and contradicts your early point that millions has been spent to prove they are safe.
If that’s the case, you could say there has been a rise in autism and auto immune diseases since the vaccines were introduced.
Surely randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials would prove it either way.
No. It's not based on anecdotal hearsay type observation.
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc.It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc."This reply made absolutely no sense, it feels like you’re just copying and pasting the same answers over and over again, you’ve actually written the same sentence twice in one reply. I get it, you like to come across like you know what you’re talking about but you don’t do it very well. We don’t agree, we won’t agree, let’s leave it there. | |||
"No their isn't, the CDC in the USA were forced by a court action to present all their studies. They had none, other than anecdotal and consensus. So now the definition has been changed from no evidence is does, to no evidence, it doesn't. Now the massive increase in autism since the massive increase in childhood vaccines could be just co-incidental. The case against tobacco is consensus, my father died at 88 and smoked all his life, never had cancer had emphysema though. Dog shit on your skin is unpleasant but not harmful, injected into you very dangerous.
You're aware that Trump installed 1 of the strongest active antivaxers in the world, to head up the US
Department of Health. He fired all of the experts at the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and installed some fellow antivaxers. As if that's not frightening enough, at least it's only the poor US citizens who are subject to any faulty misrepresentation they may issue. We're safer in the UK, not having such a person heading up health here . I guess you know this . And that the vaccines are safe and very strong evidence reveals that they don't cause Autism.
We'd not even be thinking about this, if the biggest antivaxer, who created the fraudulent scare about it, the discredited and struck-off Andrew Wakefield, hadn't ever tried to frighten the world and make money from it. Sadly, he's still around in the US, making money out of making the world more dangerous, especially for children
Does RFK Jr not just want the vaccines to be properly tested? Having blind faith in big pharma seems a crazy given their previous record. It’s far too easy to label someone anti vax because they have concerns about the safety of products produced by companies that’s main aim is to turn a profit.
I've been involved with accreditation of pharmaceutical labs for FDA and MHRA and I can assure you they dont cut corners, even though the COVID vaccine was put through quickly it went through the most rigorous testing of any drug ever and the base process mRNA was developed and underwent testing since the 1980s, proven by the extremely low incidents of adverse reactions
People that have been paid out by these pharmaceutical companies might suggest otherwise. Purdue we’re certainly cutting corners and Pharmaceutical Companies (GSK, Pfizer, J&J) frequently reach billion-dollar settlements for false marketing…
Their main aim is to turn a profit, to suggest they don’t cut corners seems crazy to me.
Are you fully openminded to the evidence on the subject of the measles. MMRV vaccine's safety?
Oh yes, I’m fully open minded. I think you just weigh up the risk from measles vs the risk from the vaccine.
Good. Do you see from the available evidence that the MMRV vaccines are not causing autism and are safe and should be generally used with children?
I’ve seen evidence on both sides of the argument, I think personal choice is a good thing… I’m not one for ridiculing people for the decisions they take for their family. The vaccinated are protected the unvaccinated not, so I’m never sure why people get so angry with people that choose not to give it to their children. They’ve weighed up the risk and decided that that the risk from the vaccine is greater then the risk from measles, mumps and rubella.
Personal choice is definitely a good thing and people in times gone by would have killed to have had the choice of having a vaccine that we have, against taking their chances of acquiring infections that left many disabled or losing their life. We are very lucky today.
I'm unaware of the most recent evidence from thousands of people, showing that it's anything but positive to get the MMRV vaccine today. You are open minded, as I am so it would be good to share the strongest evidence that has high statistical power, on this.
I note that there's no evidence cited, as a result of the requested gold standard research evidence
Eh. Who does the studies to prove they are safe. The same people that make them by any chance? The same people that have paid billions and billions of pounds out in compensation to people that have been harmed by their practices.
Randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (RCTs) are the "gold standard" for determining true safety and efficacy… have they been tested like this?
There is a debate on both sides, that was my point. Done very good arguments on both sides. You clearly don’t agree, which is your right. So leave it at that. We aren’t going to agree on this.
As a scientist, I go with the available evidence and am openminded. Sometimes the evidence doesn't agree with my expectations and theories but that's how the scientific process works.
The current most compelling evidence strongly seems to indicate that the MMRV vaccines are both safe and there's no suggestion that they might influence Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ASDm. Millions of people have been subject to some of the most powerful studies in the history of medical research ever upon this. It's refreshing that this has been researched so substantially, when we're still in the infancy of ASD understanding.
Sadly, this research has been undertaken at the cost of other medical research that could have been done instead. It's possible that you or I may die, from something else that could have been explored. And all this, because 1 man made fraudulent claims and stood to benefit financially from his fraud. We'd not be talking about this, if he'd not undertaken his fraud, which caused fear amongst thousands of parents.
Are randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials too expensive? Maybe they should spend some of these millions on that?
Also, the people that pay for the testing are the people that produce the product. Seems to me if there was money in producing a product that might killl me or you, they would happily do it. Anything to turn a profit.
Fact is, they make enough money off the ones they are already pushing. .
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc. You've studied the evidence?
Are you suggesting that because lots of people have had it and most are fine then it’s safe? It’s a pretty crude way to look at it and contradicts your early point that millions has been spent to prove they are safe.
If that’s the case, you could say there has been a rise in autism and auto immune diseases since the vaccines were introduced.
Surely randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials would prove it either way.
No. It's not based on anecdotal hearsay type observation.
It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc.It's better to study the most in depth research evidence, based on many millions of people, to determine your answers. The current compelling answer is that the MMRV vaccines are safe and there's no link to ASD, as discussed above.
Base your scientific queries on appropriate evidence. Thankfully the MMRV vaccines, as well as being safe, are also amazing at giving immunity and preventing measles, etc.
This reply made absolutely no sense, it feels like you’re just copying and pasting the same answers over and over again, you’ve actually written the same sentence twice in one reply. I get it, you like to come across like you know what you’re talking about but you don’t do it very well. We don’t agree, we won’t agree, let’s leave it there."There's repetition because there's been no provision of multi-country research evidence of 1 million plus people, highlighting the safety and efficacy of the MMRV vaccines to be anything other than very safe, very effective and having no influence on the cause of Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I'd requested this several times. We had both said we are open minded and open to the evidence | |||
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"Yes, the MMRV (Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Varicella) vaccine is considered safe and has been used globally for over a decade. As of January 2026, it has officially replaced the standard MMR vaccine in many routine childhood schedules (including the UK) to add protection against chickenpox (varicella) in a single shot. ?While the vaccine is highly effective and safe for the vast majority of children, there are a few specific points to keep in mind regarding side effects and administration. ?Common Side Effects ?Most side effects are mild and occur as the body builds an immune response. These typically appear 1 to 2 weeks after the injection: ?Soreness or redness at the injection site. ?Fever (usually mild). ?Mild rash (occasionally looking like a few chickenpox spots). ?Irritability or temporary joint pain. ?Important Safety Considerations ?Febrile Seizures: There is a slightly higher risk of fever-induced seizures (febrile seizures) after the first dose of MMRV compared to getting the MMR and Varicella shots separately. The risk is about 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 2,000. While scary for parents, these seizures are generally harmless, short-lived, and do not cause long-term brain damage or epilepsy. ?Second Dose Safety: The risk of seizures after the second dose is considered "almost non-existent." ?Subgroups: Research from 2025/2026 suggests that children with a history of epilepsy should be monitored more closely, as they may have a higher sensitivity to post-vaccination fever. Who Should Avoid It? ?Because MMRV is a live-attenuated vaccine (containing weakened viruses), it is generally not recommended for: ?Children with severely weakened immune systems (immunosuppressed). ?Anyone with a life-threatening allergy to neomycin or gelatine (depending on the specific brand). ?Pregnant individuals (as a precaution). ?Note: If you are concerned about the seizure risk for a first dose, you can ask your doctor about administering the MMR and Varicella vaccines separately, as this eliminates the increased risk while providing the same protection. The information regarding the safety and rollout of the MMRV vaccine in the UK (which began on January 1, 2026) comes from official reports and guidance issued by the following health authorities: ?Primary Authors and Publishers ?UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA): They published the technical guidance for healthcare professionals and the "Green Book" (the UK’s manual on immunisation) updates that cover the safety and efficacy of the MMRV vaccine. ?NHS England (NHSE): They co-published the official rollout letters (starting in late 2025) and operational toolkits to implement the change across GP surgeries and clinics. ?Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI): This is the independent body of experts that reviewed the long-term global safety data and formally recommended the switch from MMR to MMRV. Their recommendation was based on years of evidence showing the benefits of chickenpox protection far outweigh the risks." Excellent post Top draw information and really helpful Social media can be held responsible for absolutely shocking misinformation Measles is incredibly serious In adults … the effects can be devastating | |||
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