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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Fantastic win against England in tonight's warm up game
Am extremely proud of our Jac's first game at captain
So yea, here begins this years Unofficial Rugby World Cup 2023 thread
Love you all, we've got this  |
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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago
Carmarthen |
Always celebrate a victory over the old enemy, well done!
Just feel all the changes that Gatland has 'had' to make is a bit late for the World Cup these players should have played last seasons 6 nations but hopefully we can put on a show.
Da iawn Cymru |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Didn't care about the result, all about performance. We had two changes and took them for a change
Happy that they're is genuine competetion for places now the old guard has gone
Ask OP for her predictions... I scoffed when she predicted japan to beat sco and ire in last world cup..... I'm staying quiet this year |
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Long way to go yet and performance wasn’t great but positives in fitness and strength in depth.
Need to get some game time for those who have not played yet, including Kieran Williams and Anscombe. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Didn't care about the result, all about performance. We had two changes and took them for a change
Happy that they're is genuine competetion for places now the old guard has gone
Ask OP for her predictions... I scoffed when she predicted japan to beat sco and ire in last world cup..... I'm staying quiet this year"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Mad to think jac played in the last neath v aberavon derby! Looking forward to this year's "
as to think that Pivac reckoned he was too small 
Stupid arsehole |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Fantastic win against England in tonight's warm up game
Am extremely proud of our Jac's first game at captain
So yea, here begins this years Unofficial Rugby World Cup 2023 thread
Love you all, we've got this "
Great win. I know the 6N wasn't great. But something feels right about playing for Gats. Here's hoping we can help like we did on Saturday |
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Good 2nd half but a decent side would have obliterated us in the 1st.
Morgan, Wainwright, Plumtree, Smith, H.Thomas and Rowlands all went well up front.
Tomos Williams, North, LRZ and Llewellyn tidy behind.
Tshiunza was my biggest concern, not sure he's a 6. |
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I feel that the comments from the Welsh are either being very polite or bard on yourself.
I sat in an amazing seat dien on the touch line, amongst all generations of woman and men singing their hearts out and as always in Cardiff, extending a genuine warm welcome, which is why I travel to Wales rather than Twickenham.
But.... England played like a club side, knocking on at every breakdown and slinging the ball lile it was a hot potato.
Wales picked them up, pushed them back and gave them the crushing defeat they deserved.
Hats of to Wales, and thank you for having me again |
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"I feel that the comments from the Welsh are either being very polite or bard on yourself.
I sat in an amazing seat dien on the touch line, amongst all generations of woman and men singing their hearts out and as always in Cardiff, extending a genuine warm welcome, which is why I travel to Wales rather than Twickenham.
But.... England played like a club side, knocking on at every breakdown and slinging the ball lile it was a hot potato.
Wales picked them up, pushed them back and gave them the crushing defeat they deserved.
Hats of to Wales, and thank you for having me again "
Glad you had a good day |
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By *ateCdfMan
over a year ago
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"Well this has been a shit show  "
Was it, though? England threw their most experienced side ever against what are mostly fringe players, and only came off 2 points better off?
If discipline and the lineout were even average, it would've been a pretty convincing win
England should have an absolute pasting after that performance |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It was a shit show of a performance yes, absolutely, by both sides
But as results go, that was pretty much England's full strength team whereas ours had many players who are at best 3rd choice in their positions. So I wouldn't look too much into the result |
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By *einzMan
over a year ago
swansea |
After those games, think Gatland will be much happier coach than Borthwick. He’s got many problems of his own. Great to see Wales put 2 entirely separate competitive teams out. We will make if thru from our group. Watch out for Scotland to do well on their group too. But for tournament winners can’t see anyone but AB’s winning it. Think we might make semi’s |
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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago
Carmarthen |
"After those games, think Gatland will be much happier coach than Borthwick. He’s got many problems of his own. Great to see Wales put 2 entirely separate competitive teams out. We will make if thru from our group. Watch out for Scotland to do well on their group too. But for tournament winners can’t see anyone but AB’s winning it. Think we might make semi’s "
Wish i shared your optimism! All I saw were two Terrible sides with little ambition of playing any decent rugby. Turning point of the game was when we scored and celebrated as if we'd won with 12odd minutes to play, schoolboy stuff and lost all direction after that. Only consultation is surely it can't get much worse! |
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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago
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A long overdue reality check today against the 2nd-3rd best side in the world, half of these players really not up to scratch but had to be tried out I suppose!
Very surprised to see that Gatland was so naive to the state of the Welsh game on his return!
Grass roots rugby is struggling and is slowly filtering through to the so called top level. |
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"A long overdue reality check today against the 2nd-3rd best side in the world, half of these players really not up to scratch but had to be tried out I suppose!
Very surprised to see that Gatland was so naive to the state of the Welsh game on his return!
Grass roots rugby is struggling and is slowly filtering through to the so called top level."
I hope the coaching staff watched the France v Fiji game tonight and took note that Fili can now bring a strong forward game!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a load of crap ..15 looked like a schoolboy playing .yes his dad was a great welsh player captain and a lion .but he wasn't in the same league and about 60 % of the team playing today wasn't ..we got to be honest we fallen a long way short ..ex coaches is never the way forward ..please any talk welcome ?? |
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"I’m going to the Fiji game, not looking forward to one bit at this rate  "
If you can watch Eengland v Fiji game next week! I predict a good game especially if Fiji play like the did against France |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What a load of crap ..15 looked like a schoolboy playing .yes his dad was a great welsh player captain and a lion .but he wasn't in the same league and about 60 % of the team playing today wasn't ..we got to be honest we fallen a long way short ..ex coaches is never the way forward ..please any talk welcome ?? "
Totally agree with you ex coach coming back isn't great. People don't understand that gatland left us in the mess with all this ageing players. He didn't blood any youngsters in his first spell with us. |
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"What a load of crap ..15 looked like a schoolboy playing .yes his dad was a great welsh player captain and a lion .but he wasn't in the same league and about 60 % of the team playing today wasn't ..we got to be honest we fallen a long way short ..ex coaches is never the way forward ..please any talk welcome ??
Totally agree with you ex coach coming back isn't great. People don't understand that gatland left us in the mess with all this ageing players. He didn't blood any youngsters in his first spell with us. "
27 players won first caps between 2015-2019 World Cup cycle, and only 7 of them are in this World Cup squad now |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Not directly RWC related but seeing the stories about Rhys Webb suspended from rugby and facing a 4 year ban after testing positive for a banned substance in France  |
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Yes, it’s rather odd!!
They are blaming the WRU, not sure what the truth is but no doubt we will hear shortly.
I did think it odd that he and a few other retired very sharpish, I wonder if it’s related?? |
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"Yes, it’s rather odd!!
They are blaming the WRU, not sure what the truth is but no doubt we will hear shortly.
I did think it odd that he and a few other retired very sharpish, I wonder if it’s related??"
I was thinking Gats has had a honest conversation and told them they are not guarantee picks for the WC and they have not liked it and chosen to jump before pushed tbh. I really like the blend of youth in this side. Will Rowlands being back is a massive plus as well |
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I think we have the makings of a strong team at the moment, yes South Africa was a nightmare but its early days for them at the moment. As good as they were during the day, I think a lot of the old guard were maybe getting a bit too arrogant and assumed they had their place in the first team.
Guess well find out in a few weeks .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Following Fiji’s performance at Twickenham ( yes I know it was only England) and their rise to 7th in the world ranking, we definitely start as underdogs now. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Following Fiji’s performance at Twickenham ( yes I know it was only England) and their rise to 7th in the world ranking, we definitely start as underdogs now. "
Kinda suits us though |
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"Following Fiji’s performance at Twickenham ( yes I know it was only England) and their rise to 7th in the world ranking, we definitely start as underdogs now.
Kinda suits us though "
Yes hopefully will play better as underdogs. |
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"Just heard on the grapevine they might be announcing today!!
It's been announced today"
15 Liam Williams (Kubota Spears – 85 caps)
14 Louis Rees Zammit (Gloucester Rugby – 27 caps)*
13 George North (Ospreys – 114 caps)
12 Nick Tompkins (Saracens – 28 caps)*
11 Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby – 50 caps)
10 Dan Biggar (RC Toulonnais – 109 caps)
9 Gareth Davies (Scarlets – 69 caps);
1 Gareth Thomas (Ospreys – 22 caps)*
2 Ryan Elias (Scarlets – 34 caps)
3 Tomas Francis (Provence Rugby – 72 caps)
4 Will Rowlands (Racing 92 – 25 caps)*
5 Adam Beard (Ospreys – 47 caps)
6 Aaron Wainwright (Dragons – 39 caps)
7 Jac Morgan (Ospreys – 11 caps) captain*
8 Taulupe Faletau (Cardiff Rugby – 100 caps)
Replacements
16 Elliot Dee (Dragons – 43 caps)
17 Corey Domachowski ( Cardiff Rugby – 2 caps)*
18 Dillon Lewis (Harlequins – 51 caps)
19 Dafydd Jenkins (Exeter Chiefs – 7 caps)*
20 Tommy Reffell (Leicester Tigers – 10 caps)*
21 Tomos Williams (Cardiff Rugby – 48 caps)
22 Sam Costelow (Scarlets – 4 caps)*
23 Rio Dyer (Dragons – 9 caps)*
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What an absolute shower of shit, not a clue among the players about what to do
Portugal deserve a better result "
Totally agree with you shower of shit. Game plan was there one |
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WTAF were we playing at today ?? Yes we got a bonus point win but seriously ?? looked more like schoolboy rugby.
Portugal outplayed us in a lot of areas and fair play to them, they scored a simple, fantastic try. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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13 changes was always going to bring some frustration but I agree….it was shocking!!
I don’t think any of those 13 changes have forced a rethink from Gatland and his starting 15!!
Our line out needs some work!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Shows strength in depth Is lacking,
But 10 points from 2 games, "
Got to look at the positives haven’t we!!
I think we can get a result against Eddie’s men….I’m waiting for the mind games between him and Gatland….always makes me laugh!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just have to stop them scoring 4 tries, and if we lose, not by more than 7.
We’re capable of winning if we sort our line out. That was one thing the Aussies did well today.
I think it’s too close to call. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If any other team were playing this Aus side and the Aussies had dropped their new 10 after a couple of bad games I’d be backing Aus to lose…but it’s Wales and it’s just too nervy to be confident.
Think we can do it and will do it, just don’t give them easy points so they get some confidence |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Uncle Eddie is going to be out of a job tomorrow….
Be interesting to see who to potential quarter final opponent is now.. cause Argentina and Japan haven’t impressed me
Your route to a semi is as easy as Englands |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Uncle Eddie is going to be out of a job tomorrow….
Be interesting to see who to potential quarter final opponent is now.. cause Argentina and Japan haven’t impressed me
Your route to a semi is as easy as Englands "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Cracking night afew boys put a good shift in tonight.
Elias, jac, Toby, Gareth Davies was on fire. Tompkins was great too"
Anscombe was quality when he came on also |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Even I didn't see that landslide victory coming
Bonkers
Yup, whilst being reasonably optimistic about getting the win, I never thought we'd see a total demolition of the Wallabies."
Unreal like |
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If anyone is off to marseille for the quarter finals then get in the stadium early. I was there for both matches opening weekend and the organisation was very bad. In Cardiff on match day the roads are closed but all roads around marseille stadium are fully open. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At 16-6 up and half time I thought Australia were still in game, until they took janes slipper off. We couldn’t dominate the scrums but soon as he went off game completely changed. Dominating result cmon the boys |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sorry I have neglected this thread terribly
So yea, we've strolled into the knock outs unbeaten so far, where some wrote us off to not even make it out of the group
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They’ve replaced Falatau with Hardy. Obviously happy with the back row cover we have out there. Surprised we only took 2x 9’s in the first place. Fingers crossed Anscombe recovers quickly. |
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I always had them getting out the group but no further than the quarters but now they should beat Argentina even with their improved performance today, but after that it's Ireland or new Zealand ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wow, wow, wow. Let's all be honest with each other. 6 months ago, we would of been happy to get out of our group. We now have an excellent chance of making the semi final, and who knows from there??. Well done Gats and very well done Wales, what a massive turn around, and what a massive opportunity. Cmon boys, we have faith!!!!!!! |
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"Think it will be Wainwright, Jac and Basham.
Wainwright more than a useful line out option. "
We've gone well in having 4 options at the line out, going down to 3 is a risk but we'll have to take it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Surprised he has gone Reffel
But we'll be fine "
Think Gat’s is picking his back row in a ‘horses for courses’ basis this RWC.
Interesting weekend ahead; it could easily see all 4 Northern Hemisphere teams in the semi finals, but equally I wouldn’t be surprised if the reverse happened! |
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"Surprised he has gone Reffel
But we'll be fine "
Only other real options were Tshiunza who is very raw or Basham who's not as good. Lydiate is gone now unfortunately.
We really need to develop some depth at 6 and 8. And 3 and 10 if we're being honest. |
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Well in the warm ups wales blooded Plumtree, and there is lots of youngsters coming through, so I think the future is bright, I'm more doubtfully about this new format competition coming through and what it's going to do for player rest and recovery |
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Yes we can be sad that we are out, but you have to look at where we were before the tournament.
It's been an amazing change !
I think this team can only get better and all we can do is stand behind them and show our support |
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Everyone needs to remember how bad Wales were in the 6N, and how much they have come along from there, there is a young crop of players coming thru,
IWales did well thru the world cup, and remember Argentina played well and are no mugs, sports is a cruel game after all |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It wasn’t even close, interesting to see the reasoning behind not giving a yellow / red card"
Even though I kinda still disagree I can kinda understand the reasoning behind it
He basically says that the Argentine player was trying to tackle someone else but Tompkins fell into his path
Not that I agree, but it's a decision I can logic behind if that is what actually happened, although I have never heard that applied in any incidents of head contact before so |
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Gutted dot com
Thought we was going to the semis.
North was amazing in the 1st half, shame we didn't get the ball to him more in the 2nd half.
Argentina deserved the win in the end. Unlucky boys Bach |
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"Everyone needs to remember how bad Wales were in the 6N, and how much they have come along from there, there is a young crop of players coming thru,
IWales did well thru the world cup, and remember Argentina played well and are no mugs, sports is a cruel game after all "
So confused, Any head contact yellow and from that point look at mitigation to prevent a red |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Everyone needs to remember how bad Wales were in the 6N, and how much they have come along from there, there is a young crop of players coming thru,
IWales did well thru the world cup, and remember Argentina played well and are no mugs, sports is a cruel game after all
So confused, Any head contact yellow and from that point look at mitigation to prevent a red "
I agree
It being accidental is usually only classed as mitigation for the sanction not the actual head contact
But never mind |
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"Everyone needs to remember how bad Wales were in the 6N, and how much they have come along from there, there is a young crop of players coming thru,
IWales did well thru the world cup, and remember Argentina played well and are no mugs, sports is a cruel game after all
So confused, Any head contact yellow and from that point look at mitigation to prevent a red
I agree
It being accidental is usually only classed as mitigation for the sanction not the actual head contact
But never mind"
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Yes agree all through this world cup it's been yellow and review every knock to the head. as an ex player and ref there have been many in this world cup which would have been a rugby incident and not foul play..
But that wasn't the defining factor in the first half we lost 3 line outs 10-15 meters out very poor should have tightened up after the first one.
And the lack of a regular full back told when Williams went off zammit done OK but his loose kick over the dead ball line put the argys in a good attacking position it was just inexperience that proved costly.
But they did thier best plenty to work with going forward lots of young players for gatland to develop.
The wru need to make sure these players are playing at high intensity level week in week out.
And that overpaid bunch of wokey y ass holes in the senydd need to do thier bit too..
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"Everyone needs to remember how bad Wales were in the 6N, and how much they have come along from there, there is a young crop of players coming thru,
IWales did well thru the world cup, and remember Argentina played well and are no mugs, sports is a cruel game after all
So confused, Any head contact yellow and from that point look at mitigation to prevent a red
I agree
It being accidental is usually only classed as mitigation for the sanction not the actual head contact
But never mind"
He also bottled the holding on call just before the crucial try |
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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago
Carmarthen |
"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
Are you joking? Or don't you know anything about rugby?"
Have you ever played in a team? The guy is on a different agenda! |
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
Are you joking? Or don't you know anything about rugby?
Have you ever played in a team? The guy is on a different agenda!"
What on earth do you mean, different agenda???
The whole team just didn’t click in this game, it isnt just Biggar’s fault. Also, he played with an injury and it was Gatland’s call. He has been an incredible servant for Wales. |
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By *yndrwg5Man
over a year ago
Carmarthen |
"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
Are you joking? Or don't you know anything about rugby?
Have you ever played in a team? The guy is on a different agenda!"
I'm not knocking his rugby ability but his attitude is ridiculous! |
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
Are you joking? Or don't you know anything about rugby?
Have you ever played in a team? The guy is on a different agenda!
I'm not knocking his rugby ability but his attitude is ridiculous!"
Gotta to be honest, have no idea what you are talking about? |
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
Are you joking? Or don't you know anything about rugby?
Have you ever played in a team? The guy is on a different agenda!"
Yes I have at semi pro level and I've met Dan a few times and he's an absolute consummate professional and was great with my little boy.
From this comment it's clear you have no idea what you are talking about |
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Well done Wales for your journey
Well done Ireland for your journey
Come on England yes I’m English
I know I’ll get grief but I want every home nation to do well
Wales played badly tonight
New Zealand woke up
And honestly I’d love Fiji to win because of how they play
End of the day it’s a game, it’s sport and sportsmanship and always should be
Happy fabbing
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"Well done Wales for your journey
Well done Ireland for your journey
Come on England yes I’m English
I know I’ll get grief but I want every home nation to do well
Wales played badly tonight
New Zealand woke up
And honestly I’d love Fiji to win because of how they play
End of the day it’s a game, it’s sport and sportsmanship and always should be
Happy fabbing
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Exactly home nations support, Wales wasn't good enough, Ireland was unlucky, now England are the only home nation lefy |
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player! "
He wasn't great today but he clearly wasn't fit. He's been brilliant for us over the years though and I wish we had another 21 year old Biggar coming through the ranks right now.
Our kicking game today was piss poor and combined with our terrible lineout cost us the game. We missed that 4th option at the lineout.
That head shot on Tompkins was a real sliding doors moment though. If Dickson gives that then Argentina don't get the 7 pointer. Oh well. |
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
He wasn't great today but he clearly wasn't fit. He's been brilliant for us over the years though and I wish we had another 21 year old Biggar coming through the ranks right no
Our kicking game today was piss poor and combined with our terrible lineout cost us the game. We missed that 4th option at the lineout.
That head shot on Tompkins was a real sliding doors moment though. If Dickson gives that then Argentina don't get the 7 pointer. Oh well. "
Yes he missed the head shot, but some we get some we don't
The truth is we wasn't clinical or efficient enough when it counted. Yes it hurts, but hopefully we'll Learn and move on wiser |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least Dan Biggar won't be playing for Wales again, what a liability of a player!
He wasn't great today but he clearly wasn't fit. He's been brilliant for us over the years though and I wish we had another 21 year old Biggar coming through the ranks right no
Our kicking game today was piss poor and combined with our terrible lineout cost us the game. We missed that 4th option at the lineout.
That head shot on Tompkins was a real sliding doors moment though. If Dickson gives that then Argentina don't get the 7 pointer. Oh well.
Yes he missed the head shot, but some we get some we don't
The truth is we wasn't clinical or efficient enough when it counted. Yes it hurts, but hopefully we'll Learn and move on wiser"
Ironically, the most influential injury turned out to be the one to Piper! |
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What a cracking game so far
