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Am i selfish for not wanting kids?

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By *lujiz94 OP   Man  over a year ago

Bishop's Stortford

I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?

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By *reachersdaughterWoman  over a year ago

Someplace

No, you're not selfish. It's your decision and your life lol

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By *an_spMan  over a year ago

Coventry

Nope. It’s your life

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By *ou only live onceMan  over a year ago

London

This one's easy: no.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Not at all selfish.

I don't think anyone should have children unless they really want them. Children are a big responsibility and an expensive one.

Nita

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No, you're not selfish.

I always told my detractors that it would be far more selfish of me to bring an unwanted child into the world. Because a child I had would not be wanted. All children should be wanted and fiercely loved.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land

No, having kids so they look after you is. No guarantee they'll live close in any case. I live a long distance from one of my parents.

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By *ittlemissFlirtyCouple  over a year ago

The bottom of the River Ankh


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

You're not selfish for not wanting children, it's no one's business but your own and people should keep their nose out

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"No, having kids so they look after you is. No guarantee they'll live close in any case. I live a long distance from one of my parents. "

Imagine being told that your very existence is to wipe your parent's arse when they can't anymore. I can't even.

And yet people say this every day in polite conversation - that people must have children to take care of them when they're old.

I feel better about my potential children - and I flush the parts that could make them down the toilet once a month. (I have a period. Yes I know that's a grotesque description)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think plenty of people have kids because they 'want' them, but put their unhealed baggage on them, or can't afford the cost, time, resources that they require to become resilient, stable, capable individuals. That's more selfish, imo.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"No, having kids so they look after you is. No guarantee they'll live close in any case. I live a long distance from one of my parents.

Imagine being told that your very existence is to wipe your parent's arse when they can't anymore. I can't even.

And yet people say this every day in polite conversation - that people must have children to take care of them when they're old.

I feel better about my potential children - and I flush the parts that could make them down the toilet once a month. (I have a period. Yes I know that's a grotesque description)"

Exactly it's grim, you were born for this function alone. I hope my kids don't have to look after me, I don't want to be a burden on them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No,it's your choice and nothing to do with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's a choice...I don't believe it's a selfish one...but even if it is...it's your choice. I'd tell em to keep their nose out.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

It's not selfish. Having children is no guarantee they'll look after you when you're old either. My dad has loads of kids and I'm the only one who helps him out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I …..rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

So you’re creating a job.

How’s that selfish?

Haha. Some people miss the bigger picture.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Definitely not selfish in any way! Never think that you are.

I have 2 children and I love having children but I totally get why people do not. It’s only society and certain people who say that you must have children! They don’t make the rules! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No. What would be selfish is bringing an unwanted child into the world to look after you when you are unable to look after yourself.

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By *issilia AmoriWoman  over a year ago

St Albans/ North Welsh Borders

No, your life, your choice. Are they willing to fork out a lifetime for the child's upbringing?.

I hate these societal expectations people think you need to follow. My Son and Daughter in Law are financially secure in their own house, got married last year and people keep saying to her "all you need now is kids" she gets upset as she cant physically have them and isn't particularly bothered about Children anyway, they both prefer dogs and their lifestyle won't fit having a Child.

They may adopt, they may not. Whatever they do it's their choice regardless

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

Nope.

I've managed it. And that won't change.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

The reverse if you plan properly for your retirement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Those someone else's kids decided to take that career path and get paid for it..

No not selfish at all.

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By *reat me rightWoman  over a year ago

Rotherham

Your decision. Your life. Your rules.

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By *elvet RopeMan  over a year ago

by the big field

Tell them if they stump up about £50k in set up fees and deposit an additional £20k per year per child in running costs, then they can have a say in the matter

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By *elix SightedMan  over a year ago

Cloud 8


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

I have never wanted children and I get very annoyed at some of the comments I get. It’s my life and I’ll live it how I want.

I’d have been tempted to say to those relatives that it’s selfish to make someone feel guilty for not following their own narrow minded views on how life should be lived.

You do you and I’ll do me!

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man  over a year ago

BRIDPORT

I am the same OP, have no desire for kids, I have also had comments from people similar to your self, I tell them to bugger of and mind their own business.

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By *coobyBoobyDooWoman  over a year ago

Markfield

I knew from a very early age that I didn’t want kids and had to suffer so many people telling me I’d change my mind (including medical professionals).

I haven’t changed my mind yet and I was 54 at the start of the year!

It’s not selfish. It’s choice.

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Bournemouth


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"
i think youve made a choice that suits you

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

1. The choice not to have kids can have many (genuine) reasons and every one is valid IMHO.

2. It is nobody else's business but yours.

3. Why should this even be up for discussion, I ask myself?

Live and let live!!

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By *issmorganWoman  over a year ago

Calderdale innit

No it's not selfish at all op. It's not compulsory to have them &

Why bring kids into the world if you don't want them anyway.

I've never wanted kids, so never had them, I was told for years I'd change my mind etc.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

It's your choice and admire you sticking to your guns and staying by your choice.

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By *ostindreamsMan  over a year ago

London

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You’re absolutely not selfish. Parenthood just isn’t for some people and there should be no shame in that

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By *ostindreamsMan  over a year ago

London

You are selfish, so are everyone else. Some people get meaning out of life through kids and families. Some people get meaning out of lives through other means. We all go our ways. Yes, we are all selfish and there isn't anything wrong with that.

As long as you are aware of the challenges of old age being lonely, you should be good.

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By *an_spMan  over a year ago

Coventry


"You are selfish, so are everyone else. Some people get meaning out of life through kids and families. Some people get meaning out of lives through other means. We all go our ways. Yes, we are all selfish and there isn't anything wrong with that.

As long as you are aware of the challenges of old age being lonely, you should be good."

That’s doesn’t quite satisfy the definition of being selfish, point taken though

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By *ostindreamsMan  over a year ago

London


"You are selfish, so are everyone else. Some people get meaning out of life through kids and families. Some people get meaning out of lives through other means. We all go our ways. Yes, we are all selfish and there isn't anything wrong with that.

As long as you are aware of the challenges of old age being lonely, you should be good.

That’s doesn’t quite satisfy the definition of being selfish, point taken though "

I went by the wiki definition of "Selfishness is being concerned excessively or exclusively for oneself or one's own advantage, pleasure, or welfare, regardless of others."

There are so many altruistic arguments we can make about both having and not having kids. End of the day, we don't care about any of these and go on with what gives us satisfaction.

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By *mateur100Man  over a year ago

nr faversham


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

Not selfish in the slightest

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By *issYeuxBleusWoman  over a year ago

My boudoir - S Wales

That’s actually pretty appalling that they’d say that to you. Sorry OP. I know it’s your family.

I’ve dropped friends in the past for saying similar things. I can’t have children, and if I wanted them or not that’s nobodies business.

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By *inister_SpinsterWoman  over a year ago

Manchester(ish).


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

I'm childless by choice.

You can find a way to fend off these well meaning people. You choose how diplomatic you want to be with them.

I could think of nothing more selfish than knocking out a kid or two then resenting the hell out of them.

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By *empest2KMan  over a year ago

Derby


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

I don't think you're selfish, and I have kids! There's pros and cons to having children and not having them, so each to their own. And who's to say you won't change your mind should you meet someone. Your choice is yours to do with as you please, so I admire you for that

Anyway, the only thing I'm hoping for from my kids is that they'll put me in a decent care home with some hot nurses! Wishful thinking, I know!!!

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By *ecky and justCouple  over a year ago

Godalming

Definitely not selfish.

We both decided not to have kids, way before we even met.

No desire at all.

We have financial plans in place to look after us in retirement.

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By *idnightMischiefMan  over a year ago

London

I don't have kids, I don't want kids and I don't want to date anyone who has kids.

Every child creates a carbon footprint and a strain on society - avoiding kids is the opposite of selfish.

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By *rminjoMan  over a year ago

rothwell

Bless u

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd argue that they are bang out of order for even suggesting that they should have any say in what you do or how you live your life.

Rather selfish of them in fact.

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By *loss aka Miss JonesWoman  over a year ago

south coast IOW

I think its absolutely the right decision for you and totally unselfish. There are enough unwanted children in this world and i think it takes real bravery to admit you dont want to have any of your own against society expectations. Keep being you OP and sod what any one rlse thinks.

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By *sWyldWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh

You don't have children with the expectation they will look after you. In fact that's the last thing I want for my boys!

You're not selfish.

I love my sons, they are my life and I wouldn't have ever been without them, but, I'm very glad they are now much older and I'm beginning to get time in my life for me.

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By *lex46TV/TS  over a year ago

Near Wells

Definitely not selfish, you’re saving the planet by not increasing the population of this world. I don’t have kids , never really wanted them.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman  over a year ago

ashford

It's the complete opposite of selfish imo! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its not selfish at all. What would be selfish is if you had kids but didn't look after them

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By *ndycoinsMan  over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Not selfish.Your life your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope it would be worse to have them and not be 100%

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By *ad NannaWoman  over a year ago

East London

Why will someone else's kids have to take care of you when you're older?

You'll have saved enough money by not having children to pay someone to look after you. If you go abroad to Thailand or somewhere as cheap you can live like a king.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman  over a year ago

Wirral.

So not selfish, OP.

I knew from a very young age that I didn't want kids and I remember my mum telling me I was selfish because of "all the women who can't have children". I told her to butt out & you should do the same to your relative.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

No. Having children is a calling, not an asset to produce and develop.

Neither should kids be expected to give anything back to their parents. They had no say in the process of their conception. Adults should invest in their kids, out of duty and nothing more than wanting them to be treated fairly.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings


"I had a back and fourth with some relatives (they have a 18 month old and another baby due in may) and the older ones asked when i plan on having kids, since I'm still single. When i said I don't think I want children, they gave me a rather hostile look. I then overhead one of my older relatives saying it was rather selfish of me, since someone else's kids will have to take care of me when I'm older. What are people's thoughts on here?"

No in my opinion children are a drain on resources cash and time

YES I'm far to selfish to be a good dad so I chose not to be one at all do I regret it NO way children today are so demanding and have a sense of entertainment.

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