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Should religion be taught in our schools?
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By *hagTonight OP Man 12 weeks ago
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Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling.
It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology.
He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left.
He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it.
That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it?
What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school?
I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too 
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I think so yes. I'm not religious but it does facinate me and as you say brodens your thinking. Learning about different faiths and beliefs doesn't mean people are being preached to just expands their knowledge about culture and views |
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By (user no longer on site) 12 weeks ago
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I think it should be taught but should be equal across all religions with no bias.
Atheism should also be 'taught' so they can make their own choices/beliefs.
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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling.
It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology.
He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left.
He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it.
That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it?
What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school?
I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
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There was a time that I would have said definitely not. However I’ve mellowed a bit in my old age. I’m still concerned about faith schools but teaching religion as a concept and understanding of other peoples belief systems I think is a good thing. Ignorance breeds bigotry I think. |
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Religious Education is still on the curriculum.
Nobody gets 'fired' for talking about Religion.
People only get removed from the classroom if they are trying to indoctrinate or push a certain religion onto children.
I don't believe religion has any place in society at all but due to the wide variety of religions and their effects on populations I do think it is important that we should all be aware of what others believe as it leads to understanding , tolerance and peace. |
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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling.
It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology.
He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left.
He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it.
That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it?
What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school?
I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
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Sounds a good film shag. I was only having this conversation over dinner last night. I have no clue what they are taught. There will no doubt be the usual suspects being offensive about religion but whether you agree with it or not, it exists and a huge population of the world are religious of one flavour or another. The more we understand about them and their values and attitudes the better as far as I'm concerned. I can remember 50 years ago being taught about Islam and Buddhism and abrahamic faiths and Hinduism and apart from the understanding found it interesting and rather predictable some of the challenges we have today with secular society and tolerating of religions and indeed the growing influence of fundamentalism. But ignoring it won't make those challenges go away. |
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By (user no longer on site) 12 weeks ago
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All religions do get taught in primary, believe in them or not they do exist so yeah why shouldn't they be taught it?
And in secondary it does get into the whole is god real stuff and the effects of religion.
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Yes, if religion is taught like explaining different beliefs, histories, and their impact on culture it can help understand the world, build empathy, and think critically. But if promotes one faith over others it can cross into indoctrination, which isn't appropriate for public education.
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If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core"
Is satanism a religion? |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core"
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know. "
I believe it is |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is "
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. |
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Sure, why not.
We teach kids everything else thats non fiction… oh wait….
Why can’t religion just be incorporated into the other subjects, such as history, or geography?
It could be covered there.
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. "
Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief? |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion.
Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief?"
Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation
Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences |
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As a multi-faith country, I think awareness rather than doctrine of all religions should be taught. But it should be respect for other peoples beliefs rather than anything more. It should be an individuals choice as to what if any religion a they follow. |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion.
Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief?
Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation
Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences"
Thanks! By that definition, Buddhism is still a religion. It's followed by a large community. Depending on which denomination of Buddhism you follow, there are structured organisations too. Like the Dalai Lama being the head of the school and all the process that is followed while choosing their successors. |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion.
Curious, what is the difference between a religion and a belief?
Religion - Belief system followed by a community and World wide following, often a structured organisation
Belief - Personal to you, it's your convictions, opinions and conclusions drawn from your own experiences
Thanks! By that definition, Buddhism is still a religion. It's followed by a large community. Depending on which denomination of Buddhism you follow, there are structured organisations too. Like the Dalai Lama being the head of the school and all the process that is followed while choosing their successors."
I mean, someone may come along and say different to me but that is how I understand it
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
Is satanism a religion? "
Yes I believe so |
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"If it's balanced and unbiased and included all religions including alternate religions (Satanism? Wicca?) Then why not.
But I can't see it happening especially if it's C of E School which have predominantly Christian values at it's teaching core
There's a huge difference between a religion and a belief....
Wicca isn't a religion as far as I know.
I believe it is
I didn't believe it was so I looked it up and apparently ......... the internet says yessssssss......
I still don't believe it and need to check further cos Wicca practise doesn't fit the definition i've gone by for a long time. Buddhism doesn't either yet that is now referred to as a religion. "
When I was at school we discussed communism as it could have fit the definition at the time |
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"Absolutely not. Unless you going to teach all the other fairytales "
80% of the world's population are religious and you don't think we should be taught anything about that? Why would we not try to learn about beliefs of others? |
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As an Atheist I believe in a secular society.
Education should be separate from religion to allow better inclusion for all parts of the community.
Yes teach and explore all religions in education but I don’t believe in faith based schools…as thats indoctrination. |
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Religion for me, is a subtopic of philosophy. So is science. Each religion, just like other philosophical schools have their own ontology(nature of reality) and morals. Learning about religions is useful as a huge percentage of the world population is following them.
On the other hand, there are many religions in the world, each with numerous interpretations and it's close to impossible to give an unbiased view without talking about each of these interpretations. And at that point, it becomes too heavy for children to handle.
So I don't mind schools focusing on the biggest religion in the country and have a couple of chapters pointing out that other religions exist and they have some interesting view points too. If the children are interested, they can learn them.
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There's little point teaching something that's got little interest from the kids. So it would have to be valuable and interesting. I don't like indoctrination or kids and faith schools. If it's about increasing tolerance and understanding of multiple religions, then it could be useful. |
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"There's little point teaching something that's got little interest from the kids. So it would have to be valuable and interesting. I don't like indoctrination or kids and faith schools. If it's about increasing tolerance and understanding of multiple religions, then it could be useful. "
Little interest like like Maths, English...... 😆 |
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Faith is such a personal thing that teaching religion is never gonna really be a substitute for the real thing but I think it’s good that kids have an understanding of things like faith, natural and spiritual law , hope, luck, theology, ethics, symbols and ceremonies which are often central to different religions including all the alternative ones. I think it’s important to challenge why people without faith still rely on hope and luck and often paint symbols on their bodies and use words from the Bible frequently when they are angry |
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"No. We should teach practical, life lessons, in addition to the 'three r's'. Manners being taught would be nice, but really that's the parents job 🤓"
By manners, do you mean those extra little words people add into sentences who are brought up in the British Empire? Or which knives and forks to use for dinner, surely that should be incorporated into the shameful history lessons |
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I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning …. builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
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I have to disagree. Religion does not teach people to be compassionate or kind or caring. Simply look at every religion and it’s religious wars for proof.
Religion certainly does not teach critical thinking, quite the opposite. Religion, all religion is a load of nonenseae. A collection of fairytales, bigotry and twaddle. It forces people to accept a “them v’s Us” attitude. It teaches division and hatred. It comes from a time when we understood nothing, thankfully science has enlightened us and proved the universe is far more magnificent and more Jessica than any religion ever did.
The only reason for teaching religion in a CV oils should be to inform kids about the roots of each religion, their similarities and why religion is dangerous folly we can happily live without. |
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"Sure, why not.
We teach kids everything else thats non fiction… oh wait….
Why can’t religion just be incorporated into the other subjects, such as history, or geography?
It could be covered there.
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What part of religion is built on fact ? You simply cannot be wrong as it’s a blind faith in something that can’t be proven or argued for or against
Faith is more opinion then fact .. you can use faith to support kindness or evil as has been done over centuries
History is matter of fact then interpreting that fact
Faith ? Well prove Jesus died and rose ? It’s a belief not a fact … you can’t be wrong either way if you belive .. teachers should not teach opinion or belief imo let people find there own way
What’s killed more people than influenza ? Answer .. religious belief not religious fact |
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By *avie65Man 12 weeks ago
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"No. We should teach practical, life lessons, in addition to the 'three r's'. Manners being taught would be nice, but really that's the parents job 🤓"
You are bang on the money here. I had a student who couldn’t add 1 on to 16 or divide the answer without the aid of a calculator. This was someone around 19 or 20 at the time.
If religion was to be taught in schools then everyone should go to a non- denominational school. All religions should be given equal weight rather than the biased way they are taught just now.
My own opinion is that religion shouldn’t be taught as it was and still is a way of controlling the population. Religion in the west of Scotland is very divisive and leads to so much hatred and bigotry which has no place in society. |
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I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning …. builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
I have to disagree. Religion does not teach people to be compassionate or kind or caring. Simply look at every religion and it’s religious wars for proof.
Religion certainly does not teach critical thinking, quite the opposite. Religion, all religion is a load of nonenseae. A collection of fairytales, bigotry and twaddle. It forces people to accept a “them v’s Us” attitude. It teaches division and hatred. It comes from a time when we understood nothing, thankfully science has enlightened us and proved the universe is far more magnificent and more Jessica than any religion ever did.
The only reason for teaching religion in a CV oils should be to inform kids about the roots of each religion, their similarities and why religion is dangerous folly we can happily live without. "
I could all hear that religion was responsible for the creation of things like schools hospitals and organisations founded on religious principles solve most of the worlds problems through giving, and that wars aren’t really anything to do with religion. They do with land and assets being stockpiled plenty of evidence to support this for example war did not exist before 10,000 years ago yet there is a huge amount of evidence of religion before this time But I can’t really be bothered to argue with you |
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I would be teaching Political Philosophy and Economics long before I taught Religious Studies.
Neither of those subjects are taught generally and yet are arguably the most significant systemic forces in our lives, which shape our culture and belief.
I don't believe in censoring a subject, but it's hard for me to justify making Religion compulsory for citizens before PPE. |
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"I would be teaching Political Philosophy and Economics long before I taught Religious Studies.
Neither of those subjects are taught generally and yet are arguably the most significant systemic forces in our lives, which shape our culture and belief.
I don't believe in censoring a subject, but it's hard for me to justify making Religion compulsory for citizens before PPE."
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By *hagTonight OP Man 12 weeks ago
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"Before I ask he question I will set the scene. I watched the time changer with david morin , it ws a really good movie, have you seen it too? It was about time travelling.
It is about a bible professor from the 1890s comes forward in a time machine to the present day to see how we live today, he encountered many new situations that he wasn't used to and also he didnt understand about the technology.
He got invited to hold a speech in the school about science but when he started to talk about religiont not long into it the teacher stopped him and took him out to the corridor and said to him that he had stop and couldn't continue to talk about religion, she said that she could get fired if she let him continue to talk about it, he left.
He was very surprised about it because in the 1890s it was normal to teach it.
That got me thinking of how different it was in the 70s where you had religious studies, but then tgey slowly took it away, what time have changed hasnt it?
What is your view about it? Is it a good idea to have religious study in school?
I would say yes it does, teaching about faith supports inclusive learning about religious diversity, builds empathy and inspires compassion, not only that, it also helps the students to develop critical thinking too
Sounds a good film shag. I was only having this conversation over dinner last night. I have no clue what they are taught. There will no doubt be the usual suspects being offensive about religion but whether you agree with it or not, it exists and a huge population of the world are religious of one flavour or another. The more we understand about them and their values and attitudes the better as far as I'm concerned. I can remember 50 years ago being taught about Islam and Buddhism and abrahamic faiths and Hinduism and apart from the understanding found it interesting and rather predictable some of the challenges we have today with secular society and tolerating of religions and indeed the growing influence of fundamentalism. But ignoring it won't make those challenges go away. "
Yes, it is an interesting discussion to have, it is a good film too  |
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Nope, we lived in Louisiana and seeing the hate the divide and the rule it has I'm politics over women's bodies it should fizzle away and die. If there wasn't any religion we'd be 100s of years ahead in medical and tech advancements. With 99% war and a sexually free and comfortable society |
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I think there's a difference in being taught about different religions and having to practice it. I did RS at school, I'm not religious but I enjoyed learning about the different religions, doesn't mean I have to believe in it. |
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"Religious Education is still on the curriculum.
Nobody gets 'fired' for talking about Religion.
People only get removed from the classroom if they are trying to indoctrinate or push a certain religion onto children.
I don't believe religion has any place in society at all but due to the wide variety of religions and their effects on populations I do think it is important that we should all be aware of what others believe as it leads to understanding , tolerance and peace. "
Trust me to go to Catholic schools, they even give you a GCSE in it. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 12 weeks ago
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I don't think it should be taught as a stand-alone subject, but definitely as part of history lessons. Religion has inspired some great works of art, both physical and musical, which should be recognised. |
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Yes.not as religious lesson but about cultural beliefs.
Everyone has the right to worship, if that belief has the ability to get someone through a tough day then it's surly good to share.
Btw,I'm not religious but I do accept the need of others. |
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"Yes.not as religious lesson but about cultural beliefs.
Everyone has the right to worship, if that belief has the ability to get someone through a tough day then it's surly good to share.
Btw,I'm not religious but I do accept the need of others."
Are you suggesting we use religion as some form of medication ? |
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"Yes.not as religious lesson but about cultural beliefs.
Everyone has the right to worship, if that belief has the ability to get someone through a tough day then it's surly good to share.
Btw,I'm not religious but I do accept the need of others.
Are you suggesting we use religion as some form of medication ? "
No. What I'm saying is if it helps someone through a day then it has to be good for them.
If our kids are taught the cultural side of religions we all become more accepting.
You prefer drugs and alcohol to get through a day fine, but that's a burden on others. |
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Sounds like a really interesting film. Will need to check it out. As for whether religion should be taught in schools, great question. It really depends on society and whether people nowadays need and believe in religion. For me, religion is timeless. The teachings can be applied to every single scenario until the end of time. Whether humans can understand and decipher it, is another thing. Indoctrinating is based on human interpretation. Not on the religion itself. No religion is hurtful in my opinion. It’s about love and acceptance. It’s how people interpret it. Which also is beautiful. We all have free will of thought. Annoying at times that can be 😂 |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 12 weeks ago
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"Sounds like a really interesting film. Will need to check it out. As for whether religion should be taught in schools, great question. It really depends on society and whether people nowadays need and believe in religion. For me, religion is timeless. The teachings can be applied to every single scenario until the end of time. Whether humans can understand and decipher it, is another thing. Indoctrinating is based on human interpretation. Not on the religion itself. No religion is hurtful in my opinion. It’s about love and acceptance. It’s how people interpret it. Which also is beautiful. We all have free will of thought. Annoying at times that can be 😂"
Yes, it is a really interesting film too |
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By *a LunaWoman 12 weeks ago
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I think so. There are so many religions out there with so many facets to them. Knowledge is power. And history is interesting.
You don’t have to believe in it, you don’t have to agree with it. But if you’re taught about it then you have the knowledge to make your own mind up. |
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Depends on just what you're asking, to me the function of a school is to teach objective truths, that is to say teach things which are known to be true, so with this in mind I'd say creationism should NOT be taught in schools as though it were true, however I do believe that religious history should be taught, pupils should learn about the harm religious beliefs cause, they should learn about the murder & torture associated with religious beliefs. |
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By (user no longer on site) 12 weeks ago
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It should and no bias should be placed on any one religion. Also kids should know it’s ok not to believe.
My biggest issue is history but that’s a different story |
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"No to any religion.Teach something that’s useful in life."
84% of the world identifies as religious. It can't possibly be useful to learn about religions in order to better understand one another.  |
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