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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?"
I think he is perfectly understood, question is who wants to align themselves with the outdated and toxic comments that fall too easily from his mouth.
Personally, I understand him to purport a view of misozgy and toxic masculinity I find not just distasteful, but also dangerous for females, at a time where men should be standing up and saying enough of this rhetoric and advocating for women. |
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I think he's cunning: drawing in people with justified (and/or developmentally normal, if young) insecurities and frustrations, telling them they deserve better, and selling the answer. The fact it's bulldust and harmful, that he's credibly accused of crimes, and that he's pushing people to be more and more extreme... Doesn't matter to those he's snowed. |
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"I only know what I've seen in the mainstream media. I've never seen any of his content so I can't say if he's misunderstood or not. 🤔
Can anyone tell me in what way he might be misunderstood? "
He might accidentally be mistaken for a human being.
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"I only know what I've seen in the mainstream media. I've never seen any of his content so I can't say if he's misunderstood or not. 🤔
Can anyone tell me in what way he might be misunderstood?
He might accidentally be mistaken for a human being.
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I've read about him, seen memes created around him, I've seen him swagger into court rooms in clothes that are two sizes too small but I've never heard him speak. If half of what I've read is true I really don't want to change that |
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"I only know what I've seen in the mainstream media. I've never seen any of his content so I can't say if he's misunderstood or not. 🤔
Can anyone tell me in what way he might be misunderstood?
He might accidentally be mistaken for a human being.
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That's offensive to human beings. |
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"I only know what I've seen in the mainstream media. I've never seen any of his content so I can't say if he's misunderstood or not. 🤔
Can anyone tell me in what way he might be misunderstood?
He might accidentally be mistaken for a human being.
That's offensive to human beings."
In my defence, some human beings are offensive.
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"Nope, he is pretty obvious. The only misunderstanding is people who think he is OK. One of those "Alpha male" types (the title for all arrogant disgusting types). "
If I ever see ‘alpha male’ used in a profile I just laugh and move on.
The people who use it clearly don’t understand where it came from or what it actually means.
Even the chap, L. David Mech, who popularised the phrase spent years trying to tell everyone he got it wrong but was ignored. |
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I think he’s a turd, he has somehow managed to amass a huge following but I think that more a reflection of “men” these days than him, he does say a lot of stuff just for the sake of causing outrage and it works gets him publicity. I don’t care enough to hate him. A bigger problem is the amount of young males who are willing to be sheep following and looking up to shitbags like Tate, should be carving their own path and being the man they want to be not trying to be like some self proclaimed “alpha” male who jumps on gear (no hate on gear ha I use it myself) and hides his receded low testosterone chin behind a beard and suddenly armies of young men want to be like him |
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He has been given a platform by social media who’s algorithms latch onto popular posts, shorts, reels etc and suddenly a nobody says something outrageous which circulates quickly and the algorithm fans the flames and all of a sudden he has a presence… Simon Cowell … Mr Nasty … everyone talking about how rude he was to people… then he was everywhere … The impressionable young men thinking… hes a real man .. I want to be like him.. with girls chasing me… and rich.. its just not real life  |
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I don't think most people need to know any more about him, in order to make a reasonable decision on him. Farage is one of the exceptions,who views him with an equivalent lens,of what they can both earn from each other.
It's tragic that so many men have been influenced by him and there's now a spawn of unhealthy men trying to fleece vulnerable young men,for as much as they can get.
Ideally he'd be disappearing from all media |
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?"
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe. |
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Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother? |
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"If by misunderstood you mean he thinks he’s the dogs bollocks and anyone with a brain cell thinks he’s a cretin then yes…. He’s very misunderstood "
Absolutely agree … what a Misogynistic pig !
Delusional frankly
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?"
Because he influences many men and kids. Rather mine know decency than bury head like you just did. |
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?
Because he influences many men and kids. Rather mine know decency than bury head like you just did. "
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?"
Calm down, love. |
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Misunderstood in what sense?
I think he's misunderstood in the sense that people think he's a misogynist, I think he's a rapist.
Each to their own.
For me he appeals to men who see women as accomplishments and/or material objects. |
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Great one from Matt Bernstein commenting on Tate's ridiculous comment "Any man who has sex with women because it 'feels good' is gay" and "In fact if you are 40 with less than 5 children you're probably gay", where he quipped:
"Satire is dead and Andrew Tate is the one who put the nail in the coffin. Also, Andrew Tate is 37. So, by his own logic, he has three years to produce five children or else he is"
Newsweek reports that as Bernstein was finishing his comment a LGBTQ+ flag appeared and a still of Tate rose up with Diana Ross' hit "I'm Coming Out" playing. |
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?"
On a site where every other thread is girth or width, knicker sniffing, is squirting piss, etc - Andrew Tate seems entirely appropriate as a topic.
How do you know people have been rage baited, as opposed to having opinions? It seems to me to be rudimentary well poisoning - when I agree with how the conversation is going, it's valid conversation, when I disagree, it's (insert negative buzzwords here). |
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""Any man who has sex with women because it 'feels good' is gay" "
I didn't believe this was real 😂🤣
So I Googled it, and he did say it, considering how low I placed Tate, the fact he is now lower is incredible.
He's most likely a sex trafficking rapist, maybe even paedophile. It wouldn't shock me, he just gives off that energy.
As do his followers. |
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?"
This is the thing about the swingers community, we think wider than just sex.
Why bother? Because this man spouts rhetoric that influences all our lives, our young men are at risk of believing what this man says and older men to feel validated to hold these opinions that then negatively effect the females in our lives.
So rather than ask why bother, the question should be why don't you bother to speak out when the opportunity arises. |
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""Any man who has sex with women because it 'feels good' is gay"
I didn't believe this was real 😂🤣
So I Googled it, and he did say it, considering how low I placed Tate, the fact he is now lower is incredible.
He's most likely a sex trafficking rapist, maybe even paedophile. It wouldn't shock me, he just gives off that energy.
As do his followers. "
A lot of his followers are actual children, to be fair. I give them grace, and hope they have positive role models. |
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?
Because he influences many men and kids. Rather mine know decency than bury head like you just did. "
Couldn't agree more.
Big part of the rise in racism, misogyny etc imo, is the lack of good arguments.
Instead people are called names, for having an opinion which might be ignorant, but we live in difficult times with a lot of money thrown into media that divides us, if somebody is pulled into one of these rabbit holes, help them, talk about the subjects, and try not to shame them for not knowing something. |
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""Any man who has sex with women because it 'feels good' is gay"
I didn't believe this was real 😂🤣
So I Googled it, and he did say it, considering how low I placed Tate, the fact he is now lower is incredible.
True, I was being hyperbolic tbf. It's wrong of me, to throw possibly millions into the same bucket.
He's most likely a sex trafficking rapist, maybe even paedophile. It wouldn't shock me, he just gives off that energy.
As do his followers.
A lot of his followers are actual children, to be fair. I give them grace, and hope they have positive role models."
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Definitely not misunderstood, he knows exactly what he’s doing. This includes saying just enough reasonable things like encouraging boys to be disciplined, go to the gym, take responsibility for their own lives etc to hook people in before he hits them with his real content. |
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Yorkshire, what are your views on him and how well he is understood ?
It seems many have misunderstood you (which may be worth reflecting on) but that has also caused you to (appear) quite emotional. At least if I were responding the way you are, that would have come from a place of emotion. |
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"Yorkshire, what are your views on him and how well he is understood ?
It seems many have misunderstood you (which may be worth reflecting on) but that has also caused you to (appear) quite emotional. At least if I were responding the way you are, that would have come from a place of emotion. "
I think Tate is a dick and why he hasn't gone to trial yet is beyond me. As far as I know he has become a meme a charicature. Anyone who takes him seriously is deranged as he is. So nope I dont like him or have any interest in him. I just threw the hand grenade in and waited for the debri |
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"Yorkshire, what are your views on him and how well he is understood ?
It seems many have misunderstood you (which may be worth reflecting on) but that has also caused you to (appear) quite emotional. At least if I were responding the way you are, that would have come from a place of emotion.
I think Tate is a dick and why he hasn't gone to trial yet is beyond me. As far as I know he has become a meme a charicature. Anyone who takes him seriously is deranged as he is. So nope I dont like him or have any interest in him. I just threw the hand grenade in and waited for the debri"
bit bored then ? |
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"Yorkshire, what are your views on him and how well he is understood ?
It seems many have misunderstood you (which may be worth reflecting on) but that has also caused you to (appear) quite emotional. At least if I were responding the way you are, that would have come from a place of emotion.
I think Tate is a dick and why he hasn't gone to trial yet is beyond me. As far as I know he has become a meme a charicature. Anyone who takes him seriously is deranged as he is. So nope I dont like him or have any interest in him. I just threw the hand grenade in and waited for the debri"
So you're trolling?
And upset by the result?
That seems counterproductive |
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Andrew Potato has always been a very effective communicator, even though there isn't that much in what he's communicating. It's the same playbook used by Trump, Farage, Kanye, Alex Jones, 30p Lee, etc.
1. Be 100% certain about everything.
2. Turn feelings into facts
3. Make it Us Vs Them
4. Buzz on the controversy of being completely unfiltered and "just telling it like it is" (even though it isn't).
It's why these people get such devotedly loyal followings. |
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I'll be honest folks, I've never really listened or read anything him say, only really have an opinion bas3d on what people say.
But if he's even half the cunt people say he is it's not worth expending anymore time discussing him. |
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe. "
No I think most people have seen the dumb shit he says off his own social media platform. He's very much pushing his own narrative  |
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"1. Be 100% certain about everything.
2. Turn feelings into facts
3. Make it Us Vs Them
4. Buzz on the controversy of being completely unfiltered and "just telling it like it is" (even though it isn't)."
Tactics used in these pages quite often by the loud minority. |
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe.
No I think most people have seen the dumb shit he says off his own social media platform. He's very much pushing his own narrative "
And yet you watch it and give it oxygen? |
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"Why the fuck are we talking about Andrew Tate of all people on a swingers site. Look it's very clear people have their opinions on the guy and I'm not saying you are wrong for having them. You are entitled to think what you like. Do I think he's misunderstood? I don't know I don't worry about what he thinks and says. But most of you all do. The funny thing is, he has no idea any of you or myself exist, yet the OP has managed to rage bait a lot of you to comment on what you do think of him.
Why bother?"
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe.
No I think most people have seen the dumb shit he says off his own social media platform. He's very much pushing his own narrative
And yet you watch it and give it oxygen? "
I actively avoid that cretin and what he stands for, unfortunately social media algorithms push his toxic content. My original point was that my opinion is based on the things he's presented himself not the "media telling me they want us to believe" |
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""Any man who has sex with women because it 'feels good' is gay"
I didn't believe this was real 😂🤣
So I Googled it, and he did say it, considering how low I placed Tate, the fact he is now lower is incredible.
He's most likely a sex trafficking rapist, maybe even paedophile. It wouldn't shock me, he just gives off that energy.
As do his followers. "
Yes important to spread rumours based upon no evidence. |
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By *wcjw70Man 3 weeks ago
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When he struts around in front of his super cars spouting nonsense, selling a lie that young men could have his lifestyle, it’s all a scam. The more traffic to his channel makes him richer. I’m not misunderstanding him, I know exactly who he is. |
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"Why bother?
Because he influences many men and kids. Rather mine know decency than bury head like you just did.
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This is the bit I am concerned about, having young cousins, nephews, etc.
Them thinking this is how things should be. |
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"Well that was an easy block 
Hahaha went to do the same and discovered we’ve already blocked him 😂😂😂
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Wow I haven't even said i liked tate you just assumed lol. Judgement bunch of pricks"
Ha! Blocked you for your copy/paste message claiming to have read our profile (you definitely hadn’t or - worse - had and chose to ignore it), the Tate thing was a bonus block 👀
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I have seen a few of his videos and interviews: The BBC interview with Lucy Williamson springs to mind. Even though it was a hit piece interview even she admitted he has donated millions of pounds to refugee charities on an annual basis.
He reminds me of that Bloke down the Pub or in the Rugby bar who talks loud and chats shite, where people around him have a good laugh at what he says as some of it has an element of truth.
I think it's wrong he and his brother were held under house arrest for years without trial.
I find it very interesting how the media instructs people who to hate and watching people many intelligent baying with disapproval yet have not actually listened to a lot of what has been said.
It's quite a repetitive procedure of silencing dissenting voices, such as Russell Brand, Tommy Robinson, Kevin Samuels etal.
What concerns me is the number of people who simply fall into line without much primary knowledge. That to me is what is dangerous.
Andrew Tate without doubt is an classic Narcissist and has said some stupid things but no worse than many Misandrists online or in the main stream media. The only difference is that Misogyny is toxic while Misandrist is to be lauded in today's world 🌎. Both are repugnant. |
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You pulled out Russell Brand and Tommy Ten Names to support your point??? Those bastions of morality?
I hope you don't have daughters or grand-daughters.
Dude you're a walking red flag. Thanks for the gift wrapped block.
I assume it's a quiet day on Twitter and Truth Social |
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe. "
He shares his unfiltered views online for anyone to see. Nothing to do with the media narrative.
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"Who thinks he is misunderstood?
Don't know anything about him. And suspect if people are honest. Nor does anyone else. All we know is what we choose to believe from the media. And we know they are only telling us the narrative they want us to believe.
He shares his unfiltered views online for anyone to see. Nothing to do with the media narrative.
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So...
A)You know they are unfiltered how?
And
B) You view them my what medium other than media?
And
C) you presumably have watched his content to have such knowledge and there in lies the issue... If people stop feeding these people who the media tell us to love or hate, the problem goes away doesnt it?
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By *sm265Woman 3 weeks ago
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"I have seen a few of his videos and interviews: The BBC interview with Lucy Williamson springs to mind. Even though it was a hit piece interview even she admitted he has donated millions of pounds to refugee charities on an annual basis. "
Jimmy Saville donated loads to charity too.
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A)You know they are unfiltered how?
And
B) You view them my what medium other than media?
And
C) you presumably have watched his content to have such knowledge and there in lies the issue... If people stop feeding these people who the media tell us to love or hate, the problem goes away doesnt it?
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A. Because he makes the content himself and publishes it himself.
B. You are muddling the term "media" as a method of communication and "the media" as a filter and gatekeeper of content. It becomes much harder to claim that we are being manipulated into believing something when the content is straight from the horse's mouth.
C. The problem is the swathes of young men who are drinking the Kool Aid with enthusiasm - and that problem doesn't go away by putting a paper bag over your head and pretending Andrew Tate doesn't exist. |
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A)You know they are unfiltered how?
And
B) You view them my what medium other than media?
And
C) you presumably have watched his content to have such knowledge and there in lies the issue... If people stop feeding these people who the media tell us to love or hate, the problem goes away doesnt it?
A. Because he makes the content himself and publishes it himself.
B. You are muddling the term "media" as a method of communication and "the media" as a filter and gatekeeper of content. It becomes much harder to claim that we are being manipulated into believing something when the content is straight from the horse's mouth.
C. The problem is the swathes of young men who are drinking the Kool Aid with enthusiasm - and that problem doesn't go away by putting a paper bag over your head and pretending Andrew Tate doesn't exist."
Well of course there are many malign influencers that serve up their content via media outlets and from which they achieve financial reward, notoriety or power. If people don't watch it, they become ripples in a pond. Calling them names is not really informed or educated. It is encouraging participation which is what they want. More clicks. Follow the money and do what we as individuals can to affect the outcomes. If you think I am suggesting putting a bag over your head you could not be further from the truth. However making a choice (as far as possible) not to have your days invaded by content that the media companies choose to present to you and then having a modicum of intelligence to appreciate that it is all led by money whether it be cuddly dogs or tate or anything else means critical thinking is required.
Swearing at people whose content is presented to us if we look for it, because we have bought into the convenience of our phones as entertainment is not going to fix anything.
There are two options. Switch it off and don't feed the beast or advocate for censorship that meets your values.
And yes I agree the influence of media and content is very powerful and is changing society and not for the better.
People being influenced by content specifically targeted to them by algorithms developed by the megalithic media companies is not a surprise at all. They are basically glorified adverts. Brand Tate is one example of many. |
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He's a piece of shit, he's a dangerous man to be influencing anyone. Any person who agrees with anything he spits out of his Rotton mouth is as bad and as disgusting as him. Incels are a genuine problem, he's not misunderstood hes pathetic. |
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By *m3232Man 3 weeks ago
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I like straight talking people. If you read between the lines and take out snippets a lot of it is common sense on what the world it like.
He delivers it in a way that will offend lots of people.
Myself I can listen to what other people’s opinions are and disagree but not get offended which is very rare in today’s world.
Clearly he has a big ego. |
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My block list just keeps getting bigger.
What’s really worrying is the amount of people who think ignoring hateful, damaging shit in the way to go. “Don’t feed the media circus”. Blah blah blah.
Has history taught us nothing?
“First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me”
It doesn’t matter if it’s racism, sexism, misogyny, misandry, homophobia, transphobia or any other ism/phobia. You don’t change it by ignoring it. |
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"My block list just keeps getting bigger.
What’s really worrying is the amount of people who think ignoring hateful, damaging shit in the way to go. “Don’t feed the media circus”. Blah blah blah.
Has history taught us nothing?
“First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me”
It doesn’t matter if it’s racism, sexism, misogyny, misandry, homophobia, transphobia or any other ism/phobia. You don’t change it by ignoring it. "
That's a good point well made. You could add to your list ( or martin niemollers list) people who have unpopular or differing opinions or beliefs. So long as people are forming their own opinions having first availed themselves of the facts. Rather than simply joining in an "anti" pile on because its fashionable or going to win them favours with others of like mind. That's just mob mentality and ironically the thing you are defending.
Speaking out however is an interesting concept. This is obviously a tiny little thread in a tiny little corner of the Internet . But do you consider speaking out as insulting and calling people names and blocking them or is there more to speaking out than that? And where is the boundary between allowing people to have different beliefs and speaking out and tolerance of those with different beliefs? . For example there are religions that espouse particular behaviours towards women and don't seem to be spoken out quite as readily. In a free society how where is the line between difference and tolerance.? |
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By *mpishMan 3 weeks ago
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He should be locked up for all the horrid trafficking he’s been a part of. The way he treats and talks about women is gutter behaviour and the fact this stuff gives incels motivation to act the way they do is scary. |
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Think most understand him 100% and as already stated to him it's just a money making scam and dangerous aswell and he's fine as he doesn't have to deal with any of the shit show he stirs up for his financial gain either but in the his just a complete and utter cunt but going by some of the updates on here and some of our message afew on here admire and imitate him ? as in regarding women as just ....xx |
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Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something? |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?"
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic. |
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"I don’t really do social media apart from here. From what I’ve heard he seems a bit of a twat"
To be fair Nora that covers about 83% of the adult population. |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic."
10-15 million direct followers, 11.6+ billion views on tik tok. That's a lot of teenage boys that take him very seriously. |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic.
10-15 million direct followers, 11.6+ billion views on tik tok. That's a lot of teenage boys that take him very seriously."
People watch a lot of videos of cats falling off wardrobes, it doesn't mean they take it seriously.
If you know any teenagers and young men you'll know that like men since the Stone age they enjoy laughing at juvenile and ridiculous things, of which the internet is an endless source. |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?"
What is a "good man" and what is a "role model"? Not being deliberately obtuse. But what you consider to be a good role model for a teenage boy may be different to others.
That being said there are a lot of what I would consider to be good role models. Sadly by definition (mine) they do not seek clicks or content on social media platforms and so as there is less money to be made by all, they do not get the traction they probably deserve. Go to your scout group or sports club or youth centre or school, there are many many decent men and teenage boys out there.
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I think people choose to misunderstand him to make them feel better about the things they agree with him on.
I think Tate is a symptom of what we’ve allowed to happen in society. He’s filling a gap that we’ve allowed to fester, accelerated by social media platforms because negativity is profitable.
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No he's a prick. He thinks it is wrong for women to cheat on men but perfectly acceptable for men to cheat. Oh and he preaches about how the West is full of degeneracy. Yet he was effectively a pimp in Romania. |
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"No he's a prick. He thinks it is wrong for women to cheat on men but perfectly acceptable for men to cheat. Oh and he preaches about how the West is full of degeneracy. Yet he was effectively a pimp in Romania. "
Romania is in the West and part of Western Culture , which is what he refers to and why he was situated in the West
He never said he was above profiting from decay , decline and degeneracy .. |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic.
10-15 million direct followers, 11.6+ billion views on tik tok. That's a lot of teenage boys that take him very seriously.
People watch a lot of videos of cats falling off wardrobes, it doesn't mean they take it seriously.
If you know any teenagers and young men you'll know that like men since the Stone age they enjoy laughing at juvenile and ridiculous things, of which the internet is an endless source."
So basically you are saying that you don't think social media, media in general visual media people talking and saying stuff you don't think it has any influence on people ?
One thing we can learn about posts on social media is they are often based on a skewed perception of reality....
32% of young men have a positive view of tate, 28% of teenage boys say they 'look up to him' 56% of fathers under 35 look at him favorably, whereas Viral animal clips (cats, fails, etc.) are especially popular with older demographics.
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic.
10-15 million direct followers, 11.6+ billion views on tik tok. That's a lot of teenage boys that take him very seriously.
People watch a lot of videos of cats falling off wardrobes, it doesn't mean they take it seriously.
If you know any teenagers and young men you'll know that like men since the Stone age they enjoy laughing at juvenile and ridiculous things, of which the internet is an endless source.
So basically you are saying that you don't think social media, media in general visual media people talking and saying stuff you don't think it has any influence on people ?
One thing we can learn about posts on social media is they are often based on a skewed perception of reality....
32% of young men have a positive view of tate, 28% of teenage boys say they 'look up to him' 56% of fathers under 35 look at him favorably, whereas Viral animal clips (cats, fails, etc.) are especially popular with older demographics.
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Interesting numbers. If true surely what merits discussion is why over half of men under 35 view him favourably? . What is he saying / doing that specifically leads them to that viewpoint? Is that number UK only or Europe or worldwide? How many were asked and by whom and in what context were asked? Was it just a one question anonymous survey?
Swap tate for Trump and wonder what the numbers would say. |
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"Where are all the good men that are willing to be better role models for the disaffected (not always young)guys that are modelling themselves on tates misaligned views and messages? Who's rolling their sleeves up and actually willing to do something?
Very few people take Tate seriously; rather more buy into the moral panic.
10-15 million direct followers, 11.6+ billion views on tik tok. That's a lot of teenage boys that take him very seriously.
People watch a lot of videos of cats falling off wardrobes, it doesn't mean they take it seriously.
If you know any teenagers and young men you'll know that like men since the Stone age they enjoy laughing at juvenile and ridiculous things, of which the internet is an endless source.
So basically you are saying that you don't think social media, media in general visual media people talking and saying stuff you don't think it has any influence on people ?
One thing we can learn about posts on social media is they are often based on a skewed perception of reality....
32% of young men have a positive view of tate, 28% of teenage boys say they 'look up to him' 56% of fathers under 35 look at him favorably, whereas Viral animal clips (cats, fails, etc.) are especially popular with older demographics.
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Your figures are rather misleading- these are percentages for men who had heard of Tate, not total numbers of the population, and the figure of '32%' is the highest recorded from a single study - another study found only 21% of those who'd heard of Tate had a favourable view. |
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He’s no different to all the other influencers. Paid by clicks, likes and subscribes.
I’d happily bet that most of his views are by people who hate him and just want to see what his latest contentious statement is so that they can denounce him on their own platform wherever that is.
It’s like a big stirring spoon on a merry go round of excrement. |
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Much as I've heard of Tate I know nothing of him... I've just watched manoshpere as until a few days back I didn't know it was thing.
There's a lot of insecurity out there and it's quite worrying it's a global thing. |
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