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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Hahahahahahaha! No. Ugh why? Yeah it's sad it is but it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. You could bring a dog up very well and it could still turn on you. They are animals we need to understand that. Banning all dogs as pets will solve absolutely nothing. It will change nothing. A police dog trained very well could also snap. Do you therfore ban all police dogs? | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Isn’t this a bit like banning a certain nationality because a few of them are in grooming gangs? We don’t protect kids on that basis so I don’t see how your idea has more merit. | |||
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"I'd ban humans first " I totally agree but we can't so best to eradicate dogs as owners can't be trusted and the law is a ass. | |||
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 . I wasn't convinced.
I think the attitude that dogs are friendly in every circumstance even the ones whose owners claim 'wouldnt hurt a fly' needs challenging hard rather than banning dogs altogether .
Don't get me started on the social media videos of babies and small children cuddled up to dogs | |||
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"No" explain why no isn't good enough put your side across | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership." bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. | |||
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"No it isn't but about an hour ago I was walking down the road mk ding my business when a muzzled pit bull type dog lunged at me growling. It was on a lead and it's human said "that's just his way of saying hello" . I wasn't convinced.
I think the attitude that dogs are friendly in every circumstance even the ones whose owners claim 'wouldnt hurt a fly' needs challenging hard rather than banning dogs altogether .
Don't get me started on the social media videos of babies and small children cuddled up to dogs"To be fair, it's surprising some social interactions of dogs are not what we think. There is a thing called "Rottie Rumble" which is a sound rottweilers make. To those that don't know you would genuinely think it was a warning growl but it is an affection trait. They do of course have a normal growl too, which is used the same as any other breed. However in your case, yes the owner was likely doing it to brush it off what happened. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not." This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Dangerous bugger's. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not." But a decent owner will know how to mitigate the impact of that happening, and how to react if it happens. How do you think dogs were domesticated from the wild in the first place? They chose to enter people homes and adapt their behaviour? | |||
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"Dog owners and hobbyists need to get a grip on this instead of washing their hands and saying "well I'm a good owner". Because if they don't then politicians will take over, and with enough tragedies and the right politician, a ban is exactly what we'll get." A total ban on dogs regardless of left, right, far left, far right would not go down well for whoever is pushing for it. Measures put in to place sure, but a ban would turn a lot of people toward another party and that is a political suicide no politician with intent to stay/have power is willing to go toward. But this is walking towards the realms of politics too much and diverting from the original topic. | |||
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"I don't think we should ban the ownership of dogs, but I do believe everyone should require a licence to own one. If you're deemed unfit to own a dog, then your licence is taken away from you." I think this is the way. But like a driving licence, with training and specific obligations, not like a fishing licence. This is better for dog owners as well, since dangerous dogs/owners also maim/kill other dogs (disturbingly regularly, although it's reported on much less). | |||
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"I don't think we should ban the ownership of dogs, but I do believe everyone should require a licence to own one. If you're deemed unfit to own a dog, then your licence is taken away from you. I think this is the way. But like a driving licence, with training and specific obligations, not like a fishing licence. This is better for dog owners as well, since dangerous dogs/owners also maim/kill other dogs (disturbingly regularly, although it's reported on much less)." Agreed. Maybe even have different categories like a driving licence of what you're allowed. | |||
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" I was once walking my dog, and she was behind me, I looked around and a small toddler had picked her up, dad to busy on his phone, luckily my dog is pretty chill but it could have been so different. And do you know who would have been blamed? The dog " I don’t think dogs should be banned but I do think you have inadvertently highlighted a key issue. The actual person responsible here is you. The dog owner. The father is a red herring as you also did not know what your dog was upto. I have absolutely no doubt that you are a good and careful dog owner. I also have absolutely no doubt you would do anything for your dog and that they are well behaved. But the fact is you didn’t know what your dog was upto in public and the story could have ended very differently. | |||
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"I'd ban humans first " This  | |||
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"No And you will always get dickhead owners or dogs that are unpredictable but it's in the minority of dogs and owners." but if there wasn't a dog for them to be dickheads problem solved. | |||
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"No And you will always get dickhead owners or dogs that are unpredictable but it's in the minority of dogs and owners. but if there wasn't a dog for them to be dickheads problem solved." So many unsuitable parents too. Should we have assessments and a compulsory sterilisation programme to eliminate the issue | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. " I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog | |||
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" I was once walking my dog, and she was behind me, I looked around and a small toddler had picked her up, dad to busy on his phone, luckily my dog is pretty chill but it could have been so different. And do you know who would have been blamed? The dog I don’t think dogs should be banned but I do think you have inadvertently highlighted a key issue. The actual person responsible here is you. The dog owner. The father is a red herring as you also did not know what your dog was upto. I have absolutely no doubt that you are a good and careful dog owner. I also have absolutely no doubt you would do anything for your dog and that they are well behaved. But the fact is you didn’t know what your dog was upto in public and the story could have ended very differently." well said I've lawfully killed 4 dogs and always the owners have said it's never happened before they normal never leave my side but as said given a chance a dog will revert to instinct so tell the sheep and cows that they were chasing. | |||
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"It doesn't have a lot to do with the dogs it's the irresponsible idiots who have them." I agree but take the dog out of the equation and there still idiots just without a killing machine. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Did you know that everyone day over 14 million dogs don't kill anyone all over the UK... in fact people murder more people every day than dogs kill people in an average year. So I think you might be over reacting. Cal | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog" They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc" I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. | |||
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"Only vile humans no bad dogs" Is this true though? Are all dogs inherently good, kind animals ? | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Hahahahahahaha! No. Ugh why? Yeah it's sad it is but it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. You could bring a dog up very well and it could still turn on you. They are animals we need to understand that. Banning all dogs as pets will solve absolutely nothing. It will change nothing. A police dog trained very well could also snap. Do you therfore ban all police dogs?" your proving my point take the dog out of the equation and no dog attacks so it would change everything. | |||
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"This was a very brave statement. Dog owners love their dogs. No if, buts or maybe's 😅" that's the problem they think there cherubs are the best and wouldn't hurt a fly then muzzle it put it on a lead | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. " And some let their kids run feral with their soft parenting. Exact same thing. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." How about banning humans? They kill more people than dogs! In the words of Mr T from the A-Team "I pity that fool". | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Isn’t this a bit like banning a certain nationality because a few of them are in grooming gangs? We don’t protect kids on that basis so I don’t see how your idea has more merit. " well it's a idea | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. And some let their kids run feral with their soft parenting. Exact same thing." Yeah but we're talking about dogs here. | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. And some let their kids run feral with their soft parenting. Exact same thing." I totally agree humans are the worst animal in the world. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." No. It's the owners who are the problem. I think proper training and passing exams should be mandatory to being allowed to buy a dog. Obviously the idiots who get them for protection won't go down that route and the law abiding citizens will pay for it when the criminals won't. No easy solution but the dog isn't the issue. It's how they are trained. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion..." nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done. | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. And some let their kids run feral with their soft parenting. Exact same thing. Yeah but we're talking about dogs here. " We are which brings it back around to the point of the lack of taking responsibility or accountability for any consequences is not exclusive to dog owners. Some dog owners are like that with just their dogs, some are not, some are like that with everything in their life. More often than not it's the latter. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done." I can't believe how some take there dogs for a walk on farm land without being on a lead. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Did you know that everyone day over 14 million dogs don't kill anyone all over the UK... in fact people murder more people every day than dogs kill people in an average year. So I think you might be over reacting. Cal" I'm just asking a question I don't no the girl or own a pet but a question I think others would ask. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done. I can't believe how some take there dogs for a walk on farm land without being on a lead." happens daily public access and all that | |||
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"I don't think dog ownership should be banned, most dog owners are responsible, however I do think better screening and stricter rules on ownership should be brought in to make it impossible for the usual town low life's getting their 'status' dogs which they have because it makes them look hard and intimidating. I think some of the worst dog owners are the ones who think their dog can do no wrong, they're the most dangerous because they honestly believe that they will never bite or threaten anyone...they will given the right or wrong circumstances. Also if there is only room on the path for me and another human please do not expect me to give way to your dog They are indeed the worst, but they are also the same kind of people that their kids can do no wrong etc. It's just a trait of some people that is not limited to dogs. The way people drive cars. Make their own presence. Blocks aisle in supermarkets etc I'm not sure they're the same because I've noticed that some are way stricter with their kids than their dogs or 'fur babies'. And some let their kids run feral with their soft parenting. Exact same thing. Yeah but we're talking about dogs here. We are which brings it back around to the point of the lack of taking responsibility or accountability for any consequences is not exclusive to dog owners. Some dog owners are like that with just their dogs, some are not, some are like that with everything in their life. More often than not it's the latter. " Well I'm glad we sorted that out  | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done." I've seen some horrible things people do. We should ban them. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Yes, ban them. While we're at it, ban attention seekers too. | |||
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"Another comment to throw in the mix is people often seek out the pretty breeds or the kudos breeds or the ones that are the current Insta / Tik Tok trend Matching a dog to your lifestyle and routine is key Pick a dog that suits your lifestyle - that might not be the prettiest one If you don't have time for one, don't have one - ignoring or under stimulating a dog that needs exercise & stimulation is often a key to trouble Locking them away alone for hours is again asking for trouble with many breeds Remember, they are pack animals, they need company, being alone is often not good for them Just because you don't yell at them or beat them doesn't mean you aren't mistreating them If you prefer 'poo' mixed breed cos they don't shed, learn how to groom them &/or build in the costs of regular grooming - that ain't cheap Allow for pet insurance, vets bills, boarding fees when you go away, dog walker fees if you are out at work all day etc It all adds up " 💯 Some dogs need the edge knocking off them or they become troublesome Especially working breeds that the KC hasn’t fucked up and still hold their original integrity People often wonder why a dog trashed a house Walk it ,bike it or work it is the only way for some breed Deal with early aggression especially around feeding and food otherwise it will embed and embolden the dog for future confrontation where you might not be present but a child is If you can’t deal seek advice immediately | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Yes, ban them. While we're at it, ban attention seekers too. " Where would fab be without attention seekers 😏😘 | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Yes, ban them. While we're at it, ban attention seekers too. Where would fab be without attention seekers 😏😘" Gone to the dogs... Badumch 🥁 | |||
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" I was once walking my dog, and she was behind me, I looked around and a small toddler had picked her up, dad to busy on his phone, luckily my dog is pretty chill but it could have been so different. And do you know who would have been blamed? The dog I don’t think dogs should be banned but I do think you have inadvertently highlighted a key issue. The actual person responsible here is you. The dog owner. The father is a red herring as you also did not know what your dog was upto. I have absolutely no doubt that you are a good and careful dog owner. I also have absolutely no doubt you would do anything for your dog and that they are well behaved. But the fact is you didn’t know what your dog was upto in public and the story could have ended very differently." I think the parent should have been more aware of what their child was doing.  | |||
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"No. What next put down all fat guys! "Genuinely fascinated by the chain of thought that led to this statement 😂 | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done. I've seen some horrible things people do. We should ban them. " We do ban bad people (from society)...we literally put them in prisons | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done. I've seen some horrible things people do. We should ban them. We do ban bad people (from society)...we literally put them in prisons" That we as tax payers pay for. Vring back the death penalty I say | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership.bullshit a dog will revert to natural instincts trained or not. This almost sounds like it's not based on any studies or facts, and is just your opinion... nope being brought up in farming I've seen some horrible things that they can and have done. I've seen some horrible things people do. We should ban them. We do ban bad people (from society)...we literally put them in prisons" Fair point! But what happens to the rest? We are lumping them all as one are we not? | |||
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"🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Cars kill more people than dogs do, shall we ban those too. The mr " Same with smoking and drinking | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Hahahahahahaha! No. Ugh why? Yeah it's sad it is but it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. You could bring a dog up very well and it could still turn on you. They are animals we need to understand that. Banning all dogs as pets will solve absolutely nothing. It will change nothing. A police dog trained very well could also snap. Do you therfore ban all police dogs?" Everything you have said points to dogs being unpredictable and dangerous. Indicating that they should not be kept as domestic pets. | |||
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"I've seen some horrible things people do. We should ban them. We do ban bad people (from society)...we literally put them in prisons Fair point! But what happens to the rest? We are lumping them all as one are we not? " You mean the rest of the dogs? I'm not advocating for banning dogs...I don't believe animals can be bad...they can be vicious, but it's more about banning the breeding of certain dogs, which than are sold as pets- a chihuahua is technically more vicious than a pit bull, but the damage a pit bull or rottweiler or doberman can do, far exceeds the damage a small dog can do. I also don't believe in today's age and with the technology we have, the concept of relying on dogs for our protection is necessary | |||
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"Why did the government get rid of the dog licence ? Dogs are not inheirently bad animals. Owners breed them or teach them to be." Because it was 7/6d and cost more to collect than it brought in. Simple economics | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility" do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead" Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soul | |||
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"No. People need to be better dog owners sure. People need to be better parents and teach there kids not to approach dogs. I don’t know the story, if the dog was known to the girl or not. And it is very very sad. But banning dogs won’t solve the issue. I was once walking my dog, and she was behind me, I looked around and a small toddler had picked her up, dad to busy on his phone, luckily my dog is pretty chill but it could have been so different. And do you know who would have been blamed? The dog " Unless you actually have eyes in the back of your head, shouldn't your dog at least be in a position for you to see it? | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy." Let’s ban all humans, they kill more humans than anyone and alcohol and tobacco and drugs oh and vehicles they kill loads | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soul" no muzzle required yet you let it run free | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. Let’s ban all humans, they kill more humans than anyone and alcohol and tobacco and drugs oh and vehicles they kill loads " different conversation | |||
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"No. What next put down all fat guys! "Well that's me fucked then. | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soulno muzzle required yet you let it run free " Do you run free? | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soulno muzzle required yet you let it run free Do you run free?" I don't run anywhere | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soulno muzzle required yet you let it run free Do you run free?I don't run anywhere " Probably for the best! | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soulno muzzle required yet you let it run free Do you run free?I don't run anywhere Probably for the best!" thanks for thinking about my health | |||
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"No. What next put down all fat guys! "Don't give some people ideas | |||
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"Just been reading about the poor young girl killed by another dog I think it's time to ban all dogs as pets only working dogs ie police dogs search rescue and guide dogs I'd be more than happy. That, that is a ridiculous statement! I trust my dog 110% but would I leave him alone with young kids who may provoke him hell no. People also need to take responsibility do you take it out if so does it have a muzzle and lead Of course I take him out what sort of owner would I be if I didn't and no muzzle required he goes off the lead and has excellent recall, gets 3 long walks a day. I'm not walking him in over crowded places more fields and vast open space where we rarely see another soulno muzzle required yet you let it run free Do you run free?I don't run anywhere Probably for the best! thanks for thinking about my health " You're welcome | |||
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"I always hear this. 4 to 5 people per year are killed in the UK by cattle. Yet no one talks about killing off all cows and calves." probably because cattle genuinely don't just roam the streets like dogs are aloud to by there owners | |||
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"I always hear this. 4 to 5 people per year are killed in the UK by cattle. Yet no one talks about killing off all cows and calves. probably because cattle genuinely don't just roam the streets like dogs are aloud to by there owners" Isn't that more the owners fault rather than the dog? Dog off its lead will roam. That is what dogs do. | |||
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"No. What next put down all fat guys! "Do you mean just men? Or men and women? Guys can be used for both. It wouldn't be fair to discriminate just men. Also, how should we quantify fat? Is it body percentage? Weight to height ratio? | |||
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"I always hear this. 4 to 5 people per year are killed in the UK by cattle. Yet no one talks about killing off all cows and calves. probably because cattle genuinely don't just roam the streets like dogs are aloud to by there owners Isn't that more the owners fault rather than the dog? Dog off its lead will roam. That is what dogs do. " exactly keep them on a lead and muzzled at all times if not on your secure property | |||
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"OP, for such a nonsensical statement, it has created quite a bit of debate but some of your come backs continue to be of similar vain. I for one, can't wait for this thread to close. Quite farcical really. Appropriate regulation for certain breeds and possibly sizes of dogs sure, extermination really? Shame on you." Similarly, many of the "pro-dog" comments in this thread have turned my stomach a bit, given the context was that a girl was killed. I'm not pro-ban but it's disturbing how many people think a dog and a child are of equivalent value, for example. | |||
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"OP, for such a nonsensical statement, it has created quite a bit of debate but some of your come backs continue to be of similar vain. I for one, can't wait for this thread to close. Quite farcical really. Appropriate regulation for certain breeds and possibly sizes of dogs sure, extermination really? Shame on you." why nonsensical is it not a conversation we need to have so many animal lovers can't see that not everyone likes seeing there animal running around not in control | |||
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"OP, for such a nonsensical statement, it has created quite a bit of debate but some of your come backs continue to be of similar vain. I for one, can't wait for this thread to close. Quite farcical really. Appropriate regulation for certain breeds and possibly sizes of dogs sure, extermination really? Shame on you. Similarly, many of the "pro-dog" comments in this thread have turned my stomach a bit, given the context was that a girl was killed. I'm not pro-ban but it's disturbing how many people think a dog and a child are of equivalent value, for example." Isn't that what pet ownership has become these days? Some people refer to their pets as their children, even if they have actual children. Some people value the lives of animals more than human beings. Some people have humanised animals and dehumanised people. | |||
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"OP, for such a nonsensical statement, it has created quite a bit of debate but some of your come backs continue to be of similar vain. I for one, can't wait for this thread to close. Quite farcical really. Appropriate regulation for certain breeds and possibly sizes of dogs sure, extermination really? Shame on you. Similarly, many of the "pro-dog" comments in this thread have turned my stomach a bit, given the context was that a girl was killed. I'm not pro-ban but it's disturbing how many people think a dog and a child are of equivalent value, for example." You are absolutely right. But we should be able to seperate the tragedy from the rest. What happened and not just this time but all the times before is horrendous of course. I could not imagine both what the girl went through but also the pain of the family. | |||
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"OP, for such a nonsensical statement, it has created quite a bit of debate but some of your come backs continue to be of similar vain. I for one, can't wait for this thread to close. Quite farcical really. Appropriate regulation for certain breeds and possibly sizes of dogs sure, extermination really? Shame on you." 👏👏👏 | |||
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"There’s a difference between banning all dogs as pets and letting dogs run around with no control. This thread is really pissing me off tbh, so I’m out before I say something I regret and get banned. " It is the sort of thread that definately pushes you to it (OP's intenyion). So you are right. I am out too and should never have been in | |||
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"Well. I'm shocked to see this hasn't gone well. So shocked." why hasn't it gone well it's a conversation no malice from either side | |||
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"Well. I'm shocked to see this hasn't gone well. So shocked.why hasn't it gone well it's a conversation no malice from either side " I'm not sure I've read the same thread you have, and you judge the outcome differently to me. | |||
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"No, I dont own any dogs, but let's go down this route of banning things that have unfortunately ended more lives, Cars, bikes, scooters, food (obesity), alcohol, etc the list is endless. 99% of dog in a domestic environment are harmless" different conversation | |||
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"No, I dont own any dogs, but let's go down this route of banning things that have unfortunately ended more lives, Cars, bikes, scooters, food (obesity), alcohol, etc the list is endless. 99% of dog in a domestic environment are harmless different conversation " No, it's really not. How do we decide what is and isn't allowed in society? What is so dangerous that it should be banned, or restricted? You think one particular thing should be banned. How does that fit into a regulatory and risk structure that, say, allows people to inflict violence upon each other for sport, entertainment, and profit? (Just because boxing is legal, doesn't mean it's not violent). What are the benefits and risks, across a population, of pet ownership versus boxing (or alcohol, or cars, or whatever)? Are you trying to have a sensible discussion? Because sensible discussions involve an awareness of risks, benefits, cultural norms, acceptable risks, etc. "Ban dogs y/n" doesn't really allow for much nuance or understanding, and obviously inflames some emotions. | |||
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"There's no such thing as a bad dog, just bad ownership." Complete tosh. So do you blame a murderers parents for what their kids do. A dog can be in trauma without an owner being aware, and something can trigger it to flip its lid without warning. Is that really the owners fault. Yes, there are some folk that shouldnt have dogs, like the wifes sister, who lets hers do as it pleases, but not all dog attacks are down to poor ownership | |||
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"Just read about a man that forced himself on a woman. Let’s ban sex between men and women so it don’t happen again! FFS get real. " Better yet. Want to prevent the deaths of young girls? Being blunt, not bringing in external context, like the OP wants? Let's just ban men. (No, I'm not advocating that. This is an argument from absurdity) | |||
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"Wow 11 views take it alot of dog owners hehe So thats why you started the thread. Struggling for views??" yes I'm a shameless troll | |||
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"Wow 11 views take it alot of dog owners hehe So thats why you started the thread. Struggling for views?? yes I'm a shameless troll" Well at least you're honest | |||
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"Wow 11 views take it alot of dog owners hehe So thats why you started the thread. Struggling for views?? yes I'm a shameless troll" I've usually heard that people liking dogs attracts women, not the reverse. It's a bold strategy I guess. | |||
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"Wow 11 views take it alot of dog owners hehe So thats why you started the thread. Struggling for views?? yes I'm a shameless troll I've usually heard that people liking dogs attracts women, not the reverse. It's a bold strategy I guess." It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him. | |||
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"No matter how well trained or well behaved your dog is there is always an element of risk involved especially around children. An absolutely terrible tragedy for everyone involved." Preach it! People acting like dogs can't be unpredictable have lost the plot | |||
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"Wow 11 views take it alot of dog owners hehe So thats why you started the thread. Struggling for views?? yes I'm a shameless troll I've usually heard that people liking dogs attracts women, not the reverse. It's a bold strategy I guess. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him." I don't think it will help but ha ho I have big shoulders | |||
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