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Seen that news item of two men . One of them a teacher get sentenced for the abuse and murder of a foster toddler they are supposed to be parenting.
Turned my stomach that and stopped me sleeping properly.
I hope personally they live a long miserable life in prison where they belong.
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By *ydaz70Man 2 weeks ago
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"Seen that news item of two men . One of them a teacher get sentenced for the abuse and murder of a foster toddler they are supposed to be parenting.
Turned my stomach that and stopped me sleeping properly.
I hope personally they live a long miserable life in prison where they belong.
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I'm same not read much as I get angry about the abuse as for prison it will depend where they are sent definitely won't be on a normal wing but someone will get to them. |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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That lad (I won't name him because he doesn't deserve it) who killed the children at the Taylor Swift dance school is in solitary confinement in Belmarsh so he's not attacked by other inmates.
In these situations prison life is not hard enough for them. |
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By *hineasMan 2 weeks ago
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Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
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By *Effy-Woman 2 weeks ago
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice. "
I believe there are some crimes that you simply cannot be rehabilitated from. In those cases, let them fight it out amongst themselves. |
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By *hineasMan 2 weeks ago
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
I believe there are some crimes that you simply cannot be rehabilitated from. In those cases, let them fight it out amongst themselves. "
Then they’re locked away for public protection.
What above the staff that might get caught in the middle?
What about Andrew Malkknson, sentenced for r**e and freed after 17 years, wrongly convicted ? |
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
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A combination of punishment, rehabilitation and public protection. I don't think punishment has to be dealt out, prison doesn't sound like a nice place to be in, and solitary even worse (even if it is for their own protection), that is the punishment we give out as a general society. It's not equal with the crimes some of them commit but handing out physical punishment or facilitating it doesn't sit well with me. |
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I grew up a couple of miles from the town where Ian Huntley committed his crimes and the victims were the same age as me, so that crime really affected me and is still tough to think about. It was weird seeing news crews about. I moved away from the area when I was 12 but I started at the secondary school the girls would have gone to and I'd likely have met them.
I got so fed up of people posting about Ian Huntley and forgetting the important people - Holly and Jessica.
I hope he had a very slow and painful end and I hope all those like him have an unpleasant time in prison. They deserve no less. |
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"Seen that news item of two men . One of them a teacher get sentenced for the abuse and murder of a foster toddler they are supposed to be parenting.
Turned my stomach that and stopped me sleeping properly.
I hope personally they live a long miserable life in prison where they belong.
I'm same not read much as I get angry about the abuse as for prison it will depend where they are sent definitely won't be on a normal wing but someone will get to them."
personally I wouldn't cry if they got the same treatment in prison as they did to that poor little boy |
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
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Precisely |
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Strange, I seem to have wandered into the daily mail forum.
Their crimes are unforgivable. But lynch mobs are not the solution.
I wouldn’t be upset if something happened to them. But I wouldn’t encourage it |
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"Strange, I seem to have wandered into the daily mail forum.
Their crimes are unforgivable. But lynch mobs are not the solution.
I wouldn’t be upset if something happened to them. But I wouldn’t encourage it"
Very much how I feel. I'm an ex teacher and a mother. A total mother bear. In the moment I could kill to save a child. But not in the cold hard light of day. Prison is a terrible punishment and in some ways death might be easier which is why a lot do kill themselves. |
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By *hineasMan 2 weeks ago
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"Prison is no deterrent, if it were they would be near empty. They deserve to be handed the same treatment they gave that poor defenceless little boy x"
I spent 20 odd years in jail and I couldn’t do a sentence.
Albert Pierrepoint, who ended the life of more criminals than anyone in Britain, said in his book that he didn’t believe that any crimes had been prevented due to us having the death penalty.
Criminals never think they will be caught. |
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
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I would say make an example of them. I personally would make sure they have a hard time .. early mornings late nights basic food and beasted about.. breaking rocks would be ideal .. and have the odd reminders advertised to remind any potential offenders what awaits them if they commit these crimes.
As for being attacked by other prisoners .. yes indeed I'd say it's part of prison life for monsters like that.
Part of the deterrence. Problem is these people don't think they'll be caught so give them reminders in the form of news updates and even posters
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Unfortunately the Prison Service has a duty of care to all that are in their custody.
Doesnt mean however that a gaurd will rush to save a certain type of inmate but they do have to attend to them.
Duty of care is a stucky legal issue |
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I’ve thought for a long time that there should be a dark deep pit in the ground to simply throw monsters who commit crimes like that. They should be left to rip each other to bits and suffer until their last breath. |
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I say a life taken they then should be hanged then it would free up a lot of prison & save taxpayer i know there is a lot of people against it but I think if it there it will make them fuckers might think ?? But why do they kill other people |
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The biggest issue with the Prison Service is the internal conflicylt of interest.
Is the prison service there to punish or rehibilitate.?
If it is to punish, then give them a huge lump of granite and a toffee hammer and when the lump becomes gravel, you can leave.
If it is there to rehabilitate (as our current political leaders believe) then all in the system can be "cured" and forgiven for their crime. No matter how heinous.
IMO.. some are incurable. Some are just not worth the loss of oxygen in the world that they consume.
But unfortunately, duty of care and protecting "their" rights, takes precident over any "punishment" that having their freedom taken away from them provides.
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We should follow the example of the USA's flagship prison.
ADX Florence supermax.
Prisoners kept in solidarity confinement for entire sentence, locked in their cell for 23hrs a day completely segregated from each other.
That said I don't think Belmarsh is a five star holiday resort. |
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Prisons in the USA are businesses.
Cat A prisons should ve on par with an american supermax but we do not have the facilities in this country. Most of our prisons are Victorian and falling to pieces |
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"Ian Huntley was beaten to death in prison. So I assume they tend to have a hard time. Although I think they're often segregated from the general prison population for their own protection. "
The person who murdered huntley was as bad as huntley. |
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"I expect they do
I see no point in actively wishing further harm upon them "
In the ye olde days, the term outlaw didn't just mean that someone acted outside of the law, it also meant that they're also outside the protection of the law.
As far as I'm concerned they forfeited their rights.
Yes I expect that prison staff will protect them from other prisoners but if anything minor did happen then it's par for the course.
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"There is no place in this world for monsters like them.
They should be locked in a cell with proper mothers and fathers for an hour. "
They should be tortured daily and when there hearts stops being them back and do it again and again and again |
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I really hope them 2 scum of the earth dirty bags get beat up every day for the rest of there lives.every time I see that poor baby Preston's photo I break down looking at is beautiful little smile.how could anyone do what them evil dirty rats did.bring back the death penalty.happy heavenly birthday baby preston you should of been celebrating your 4th birthday this week.so sorry you was failed by people who should of loved you.R.I.P.preston you little angel xxx |
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"I really hope them 2 scum of the earth dirty bags get beat up every day for the rest of there lives.every time I see that poor baby Preston's photo I break down looking at is beautiful little smile.how could anyone do what them evil dirty rats did.bring back the death penalty.happy heavenly birthday baby preston you should of been celebrating your 4th birthday this week.so sorry you was failed by people who should of loved you.R.I.P.preston you little angel xxx"
Absolutely. Torture and hang the scum |
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I've read about half way down.
I too was sickened at the news of this case.
However , I don't want to beat anyone to death nor do I want any other prisoner to gain notoriety or the warped belief that they are somehow better than the abusers because they beat them up.
Listening to some comments above churns my stomach too .
What kind of people does it take to want to inflict damage or death on another?
I'd prefer a legal death penalty |
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"I've read about half way down.
I too was sickened at the news of this case.
However , I don't want to beat anyone to death nor do I want any other prisoner to gain notoriety or the warped belief that they are somehow better than the abusers because they beat them up.
Listening to some comments above churns my stomach too .
What kind of people does it take to want to inflict damage or death on another?
I'd prefer a legal death penalty"
Given the cost to the taxpayer to keep these things in prison i agree.
Put to sleep like an animal, cremated and ashes put in landfill.
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"I really hope them 2 scum of the earth dirty bags get beat up every day for the rest of there lives.every time I see that poor baby Preston's photo I break down looking at is beautiful little smile.how could anyone do what them evil dirty rats did.bring back the death penalty.happy heavenly birthday baby preston you should of been celebrating your 4th birthday this week.so sorry you was failed by people who should of loved you.R.I.P.preston you little angel xxx
Absolutely. Torture and hang the scum "
totally they don't deserve to live after what they've done. |
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"There is only one punishment for sick fucks like that... to be tortured to death. Simple. "
This one really really got to me when I read it and if agreeing with this makes me a bad person I’ll take that. |
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"There is only one punishment for sick fucks like that... to be tortured to death. Simple. "
1000 per cent slow and painfully start of by keeping him awake like he did to that poor little angel boy.
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A prison warden I know told me about a child sex offender who came to their prison. He was advised to go into solitary confinement as he was a high risk prisoner. He refused as he thought he was a hard man. The next day he ended up in hospital with a huge metal serving spoon from the kitchens rammed up his backside! |
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence."
You just know none of those endorsing murder and torture would actually be prepared to do it. |
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence.
You just know none of those endorsing murder and torture would actually be prepared to do it."
Sounds tough tho. |
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Having just read the news about the sentence given and the details of the case, this poor nipper never stood a chance by the sounds of it from birth.
Once again let down by a system designed to protect the vulnerable.
I thought " robust" systems were supposed to have been implemented following baby p ?
Incredibly sad and upsetting. |
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By *hineasMan 2 weeks ago
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I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. |
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. "
so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least. |
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence.
You just know none of those endorsing murder and torture would actually be prepared to do it.
Sounds tough tho."
Just makes them sound like dicks. |
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least."
Are you prepared to kill them? |
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least.
Are you prepared to kill them?"
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence."
It would serve as a deterrent!
Also keep updates of their miserable life in prison on the news, serves as a reminder to others thinking of what awaits them if they're thinking of doing the same. Yes it's brutal getting beaten up sploshed with boiling water and being battered but if it saves innocent defenceless children then it's definitely worth it!
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By *hineasMan 2 weeks ago
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence.
It would serve as a deterrent!
Also keep updates of their miserable life in prison on the news, serves as a reminder to others thinking of what awaits them if they're thinking of doing the same. Yes it's brutal getting beaten up sploshed with boiling water and being battered but if it saves innocent defenceless children then it's definitely worth it!
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I refer you back to Albert Pierrepoint, mentioned earlier in this thread. I’ll take the view of a man who executed more than 300 people, including war criminals after Nuremberg.
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By *4bimMan 2 weeks ago
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doesnt matter who it is. if you kill then you shouldnt recieve the maximum sentence.
until we start building cecot prisons and treating prisoners like they have done in el salvador you have no deterrant.
humans only know pain, they dont like it.
so those that commit the worst crimes should suffer and be stripped of all human rights and shown to the public that if you live here and come to this country and commit crime we will be welcomming you to our cecot system,
and here you will remain.
you watch how many of these criminals change behaviour when they see a system that will not back down.
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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago
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He'll go to either a vulnerable prisoners wing or a dedicated prison for them, like HMP Stafford.
If anyone attacks him it will be another sex offender or occasionally someone who's run up debts and cried to go VP then tries to big it up over the sex offenders, which is obviously a silly thing to do because some of them are incredibly violent and unbalanced. |
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I really dont know what the answer is
Definetly not death as its to easy for them. Maybe lifetime in a normal prison and let it take its course. I have two grandchildren and the thought of anyone harming a child is to hard for me to comprehend |
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"I am struggling to comprehend why anyone would care about their rights, safety or wellbeing after what they did to that baby. They deserve to suffer. "
totally agree with you I cannot understand anybody sticking up for them two sick evil rats.they deserve pain every day for the rest of there life
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By (user no longer on site) 2 weeks ago
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Oh the other thing wrong uns and the weak do in prison is convert to islam for protection from the none Muslim prisoners.
But personally I'd use nonces for medical research or kept alive as organ donors until everything is harvested and put to good use then throw what's left of the body away in the medical waste. |
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"As the comments show this question will often be met with an emotional response understandably.
But in reality it is very complex and there are too many variables to endorse violence.
It would serve as a deterrent!
Also keep updates of their miserable life in prison on the news, serves as a reminder to others thinking of what awaits them if they're thinking of doing the same. Yes it's brutal getting beaten up sploshed with boiling water and being battered but if it saves innocent defenceless children then it's definitely worth it!
I refer you back to Albert Pierrepoint, mentioned earlier in this thread. I’ll take the view of a man who executed more than 300 people, including war criminals after Nuremberg.
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Pierrepoint ; would more publicity be beneficial though?!
In those days it would be mentioned on radio or newspaper that such n such had been executed and that's the end of it..
With these people serving life and being put on the news now and again would that be different? Updates on how their existence is going and reminders of what they endure in prison?
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"Looks like Varley is off to Wakefield.
He won't last long there.
Good old Monster Mansion.
I don't wish it dead, but I hope it and the other thing involved ends up as Big Bubba's 'playthings'
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hope they get tortured every day for the rest of there sorry lives . thankfully they will never be out of prison to harm another baby.....r.i.p.preston you beautiful little angel |
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least.
Are you prepared to kill them?100 per cent if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it."
Then there is obviously something wrong with you. Gladly murder someone? |
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least.
Are you prepared to kill them?100 per cent if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it.
Then there is obviously something wrong with you. Gladly murder someone?"
read my text properly I said if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it.why are you supporting the 2 evil scum rats.think 99 per cent want them both dead or at least to suffer every day for the rest of there lives |
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While I certainly despise and am horrified by those who prey on children and believe the sanest way for the irredeemable and unrepentant ones is the most humane possible death sentence, a quick and clean closure, I'm equally disturbed by the sort of vigilante culture that would egg on other irredeemables to do society's dirty work for it and shank a nonce.
The former case is usually a deeply disturbed, dangerous and fucked up individual with no moral centre. The latter is more sinister in that it's comprised of folk who like to think they have a belief in justice and propriety, but in their own way are just as bloodthirsty as the original perp; they just conceal it behind a veneer of "well everyone else thinks it too." |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least.
Are you prepared to kill them?100 per cent if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it.
Then there is obviously something wrong with you. Gladly murder someone?"
Do you consider legal execution to be murder? |
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By *t2012Woman 2 weeks ago
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Maybe said in this topic before but people like that should get a beating to within a inch of there life,rinse and repeat every day , killing them is to easy gives them a quick get away from the horrible things they have done |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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Although Varley will more than likely get topped, you need to remember he's got a whole life order and the psychological torture that brings.
He has no hope, nothing to look forward to (parole), no sense of time, the same daily routine for the rest of his life, whilst also constantly looking over his back given the target on him now.
A whole life order brings immense mental torture. |
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There supposed to be put on the v.p wing but they still have to go through induction. Before they can get allocated to the main section of the prison. A lot of times they are put on a normal wing because most prisons are full. The screws are meant to keep an eye on them and aren't supposed to let anyone know what there crime was. But that never happens they go through absolute hell urine under the door constant threats and I've seen them have sugar and boiling water thrown over them. And it's not a pretty sight scared for life
Don't worry there's a lot of honour in prison even though it's full of criminals, I've seen more loyalty and morals in there than outside. A child sex offender/murderer e.t.c will never be safe in any prison.
Once the lads find out there's a sex offender that can be got at the whole jail works together to make their lives worse than hell.  |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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"There supposed to be put on the v.p wing but they still have to go through induction. Before they can get allocated to the main section of the prison. A lot of times they are put on a normal wing because most prisons are full. |"
Wakefield is different.
The whole prison is full of nutters, not just certain wings. |
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By *ndy58Man 2 weeks ago
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"I always wonder about those who advocate this sort of violence and if they’ve thought it through.
So who is doing this violence inside? Would those hoping for it be willing to administer it?
Who would be subject? Just child murderers and nonces? How about those that murder elderly people? Or those that scam them out of life savings as that’s devastating too? Where is the line drawn?
Or is just the usual huffing and unthinking puffing that is done all over social media?
I’ve seen plenty of guts spilt in jails. It isn’t a video game or horror movie where you turn off and it all goes away. The blood stains your very soul. so what do you think should happen to these monsters put them in a cell with a play station a colour TV music system 3 meals a day.no bills to pay..I think 99 per cent of this country wants them both dead for what they put that poor little baby through.why should they live.they need the lethal injection at least.
Are you prepared to kill them?100 per cent if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it.
Then there is obviously something wrong with you. Gladly murder someone?read my text properly I said if it was my job to give them the lethal injection I'd gladly do it.why are you supporting the 2 evil scum rats.think 99 per cent want them both dead or at least to suffer every day for the rest of there lives "
If it was your job you'd have had to apply for it, a) I doubt whether you are any of the other "hard" people on here would ever have the bottle to do that, and b) anyone who did apply is obviously a psychopath who would be barred from being appointed to the job. |
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They shouldn’t be in prison.
Might sound a bit cruel but if anyone kills a child I’d make watch as their mother is killed and thrown into a ditch and then put the cunt in a live and pour cement over them👍🏼 |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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"They shouldn’t be in prison.
Might sound a bit cruel but if anyone kills a child I’d make watch as their mother is killed and thrown into a ditch and then put the cunt in a live and pour cement over them👍🏼"
Why kill an innocent mother? |
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Hanging or the lethal injection should be for only the ones caught doing it like these two scumrats who killed baby preston and that Southport killer and that guy who killed Henry nowak.they don't deserve to live |
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"They shouldn’t be in prison.
Might sound a bit cruel but if anyone kills a child I’d make watch as their mother is killed and thrown into a ditch and then put the cunt in a live and pour cement over them👍🏼"
Load of ballix. |
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
I believe there are some crimes that you simply cannot be rehabilitated from. In those cases, let them fight it out amongst themselves.
Then they’re locked away for public protection.
What above the staff that might get caught in the middle?
What about Andrew Malkknson, sentenced for r**e and freed after 17 years, wrongly convicted ?"
The reason the death sentence shouldn't be brought back |
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
I believe there are some crimes that you simply cannot be rehabilitated from. In those cases, let them fight it out amongst themselves.
Then they’re locked away for public protection.
What above the staff that might get caught in the middle?
What about Andrew Malkknson, sentenced for r**e and freed after 17 years, wrongly convicted ?The reason the death sentence shouldn't be brought back"
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"Asking this as an ex screw.
What do you want prison to be? Punishment, rehabilitation or public protection.
If you think punishment, then in this country that’s the deprivation of freedom. It’s not the job of HMPS to deal out punishment.
So if it’s not the job of the screws, are you hoping it’s the other prisoners?
The man being seen as some sort of hero for denting Ian Huntley’s bonce is a serial mudererer and r****t , one of whose victims was a pregnant woman. I’m not sure I want those kind of people handing out justice.
I believe there are some crimes that you simply cannot be rehabilitated from. In those cases, let them fight it out amongst themselves.
Then they’re locked away for public protection.
What above the staff that might get caught in the middle?
What about Andrew Malkknson, sentenced for r**e and freed after 17 years, wrongly convicted ?The reason the death sentence shouldn't be brought back"
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Tho without sin cast the first stone
Prison is not a holiday camp.
Having your freedom taken away is punishment.
They go on vp wing.. Vulnerable people. This wing is not protected, it's full of some of the worst offenders so those who want to make a name will make a name. This is normally someone who has previously killed. They also get kettle (boiling water thrown over them)
I dont condone any sexual crime or murder but many say bring back the death penalty. Someone has to press the button, that person has to live with the fact they have taken a life. An eye for an eye is not the answer or the solution. What is. I don't know. We as humans have to much hatred. |
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"Tho without sin cast the first stone
Prison is not a holiday camp.
Having your freedom taken away is punishment.
They go on vp wing.. Vulnerable people. This wing is not protected, it's full of some of the worst offenders so those who want to make a name will make a name. This is normally someone who has previously killed. They also get kettle (boiling water thrown over them)
I dont condone any sexual crime or murder but many say bring back the death penalty. Someone has to press the button, that person has to live with the fact they have taken a life. An eye for an eye is not the answer or the solution. What is. I don't know. We as humans have to much hatred. "
I’m against the death penalty too.
But Crippling a child killer with a bullet in their spine I could live with. |
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I seen that too, truthfully if not murdered in prison they'll have prisoners scalding them with boiling water and sugar, they'll suffer more through the sentence, or alifer, will kill as he won't get added time. |
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I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them. |
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them."
i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 1 week ago
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live "
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?"
I think the fiscal resources needed to keep them in for life could be looked at. Thst money could be better didn’t supporting families of victims etc / systems to try prevent it in future etc.
It’s food for thought |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 1 week ago
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?
I think the fiscal resources needed to keep them in for life could be looked at. Thst money could be better didn’t supporting families of victims etc / systems to try prevent it in future etc.
It’s food for thought "
Yes I agree with that.
But bare in mind out of about 60,000 prisoners only 70 have a whole life order.
It's the maximum punishment we can inflict, apart from bringing the death penalty back. |
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?"
as long as they do get tortured every day then maybe yes.every time I see that poor little baby's face I break down. as it happend in my home town and there is so much hate towards them evil wnkers.hate is a strong word but I really do hate these 2 rats |
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?
I think the fiscal resources needed to keep them in for life could be looked at. Thst money could be better didn’t supporting families of victims etc / systems to try prevent it in future etc.
It’s food for thought
Yes I agree with that.
But bare in mind out of about 60,000 prisoners only 70 have a whole life order.
It's the maximum punishment we can inflict, apart from bringing the death penalty back."
Medical studies / trials / experimental treatments
perhaps of new medication could be looked at Make these people serve some value to society in a Capscity. Their body is forefit basically anyway. So perhaps that’s food for thought as well.
There is multitude of avenues a society could look at rather than just executing someone but still keeping them out society but making some use of their body to benefit society |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 1 week ago
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?as long as they do get tortured every day then maybe yes.every time I see that poor little baby's face I break down. as it happend in my home town and there is so much hate towards them evil wnkers.hate is a strong word but I really do hate these 2 rats"
Given the mass media coverage of the case everyone in prison will know his face. He won't last long tbh.
It got more coverage than Lucy Letby so he has a big target on his back. |
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?as long as they do get tortured every day then maybe yes.every time I see that poor little baby's face I break down. as it happend in my home town and there is so much hate towards them evil wnkers.hate is a strong word but I really do hate these 2 rats
Given the mass media coverage of the case everyone in prison will know his face. He won't last long tbh.
It got more coverage than Lucy Letby so he has a big target on his back."
killing anyone is bad but to be a child killer like what they did there days will be marked they will definitely get the Ian Huntley treatment might take a few years but they will both end up killed |
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By *erdyHollyTV/TS 1 week ago
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"I wonder if they will knock the house down where these two rats lived.cause nobody will want to live in that house after whats happened.."
I think so.
From memory didn't they knock down Fred West's house? |
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"I wonder if they will knock the house down where these two rats lived.cause nobody will want to live in that house after whats happened..
I think so.
From memory didn't they knock down Fred West's house?"
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There is a case of a chsp jailed for this who had a terrible time in prison, hung himself and was subsequently proven innocent. Careful what you wish for. The justice system in this country is not infallable. |
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"There is a case of a chsp jailed for this who had a terrible time in prison, hung himself and was subsequently proven innocent. Careful what you wish for. The justice system in this country is not infallable."
yeh I understand that but these two rats who killed baby preston are guilty as anything.they deserve everything coming there way
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My dads brother in law used to work at Strangeways in Manchester. I was told that any paedo that entered jail, had his charge sheet left at processing, for office qualified prisoners to see it, and pass the message up the line to others, to meat out justice. |
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"I personally think and suggest they be deleted or thrown off this galaxy.
Sick twisted bacteria like that don't deserve protection or jail unless it's in a bulletproof transparent tiny box with no comfort or privacy and should be in a public place too so others can pass, see them, dispise and laugh at them.i agree with you 100 per cent what them rats did to that poor little baby.they don't deserve to live
Do you not think the mental torture of a whole life order is better than killing them?
I think the fiscal resources needed to keep them in for life could be looked at. Thst money could be better didn’t supporting families of victims etc / systems to try prevent it in future etc.
It’s food for thought
Yes I agree with that.
But bare in mind out of about 60,000 prisoners only 70 have a whole life order.
It's the maximum punishment we can inflict, apart from bringing the death penalty back.
Medical studies / trials / experimental treatments
perhaps of new medication could be looked at Make these people serve some value to society in a Capscity. Their body is forefit basically anyway. So perhaps that’s food for thought as well.
There is multitude of avenues a society could look at rather than just executing someone but still keeping them out society but making some use of their body to benefit society "
Bloody hell! Dr Mengele would love you. 
Personally I think the target on his back would be worse than any attack.
Not knowing when or where someone will have a go. That mental torture could go on for years with just the occasional slap to keep it warm.
To quote one of Alistair MacLeans titles. "Fear Is The Key".
You can only kill someone once but you can make their life a misery for decades.
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"My dads brother in law used to work at Strangeways in Manchester. I was told that any paedo that entered jail, had his charge sheet left at processing, for office qualified prisoners to see it, and pass the message up the line to others, to meat out justice."
they will get justice might take a while like it did for Huntley.but as someone on here said the mental torcherer the 2 rats will be going through not knowing when or where they will get attacked but no it will happen one day.i hope they live in fear until the time comes they get there comeuppance
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